System of A Down

[ckBejug]

Serj Tankian, Shavo Odadjian, Daron Malakian, and John Dolmayan...

I am suprised no one has mentioned them here yet. They are pretty famous nowadays, and are very vocal about being Armenian, etc.


...Shavo says, “It’s time for the bands these kids are listening to to deliver something deeper than just ‘let’s party.’”

Now one year after the triumph of "Toxicity," System of a Down find themselves in an elite class of rock acts who’ve managed commercial hugeness with dignity in spades and nary a compromise on their resume. They’ve engendered a sound transcendent of trends or labels, a propulsive hybrid destined to flourish in any radio climate from here to forever. What sonic twists await us only they know, but we can rest assured knowing that their next offering, like those that have proceeded, will be born from a primal need to evade classification and emote loudly.

Daron says, "Everyone who knows me knows my music comes before anything. It comes before me. If someone said, "your music will live forever but you won't wake up tomorrow morning, I'd be like, 'Okay.' That's very fair to me."...

Check out this webiste:
System of a Down Official Webpage (http://www.systemofadown.com)


My claim to fame? John went to my middle school, and his mom was my Kindergarden teacher. hehe:)

[jahannam]

all I gotta say is...
BEIRUTSIES all the way
HA!

P.S. go ahead! call me a racist! :D

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by jahannam all I gotta say is...
BEIRUTSIES all the way
HA!

P.S. go ahead! call me a racist! :D

you silly goose. 2 of them are halebtsi.

[Artsakhtsi]

Nice guys, i like some of their songs!

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by ckBejug you silly goose. 2 of them are halebtsi.

YA, HALEBTSIS ALL THE WAY!

ok, now call ME a racist :)

jahannam, toon yerpvné beuritsi es?

[jahannam]

okay you guys relax...
I'm 100% halebtsee
I was even raised there !
:D
but some armos don't even know what "halebtsee" means
they refer to us as beirutsee...
I was just trying to make it easy for everyone to understand..
yeghadzeh??
I'm sorry...I apologize
;)

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by jahannam okay you guys relax...
I'm 100% halebtsee
I was even raised there !
:D
but some armos don't even know what "halebtsee" means
they refer to us as beirutsee...
I was just trying to make it easy for everyone to understand..
yeghadzeh??
I'm sorry...I apologize
;)

vay toon INCHBES ge hamartsagis lkel halebtsiootyoone vorovhedev "some armo's don't even know what it means"...

vay photo anto-n yev gallery torose chi lsen. (I'm hoping you've heard of these people)

[jahannam]

I know who Gallery Toros is... but photo Anto?
lol
why do YOU know those things???
khentoog
you're hillarious!

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by jahannam I know who Gallery Toros is... but photo Anto?
lol
why do YOU know those things???
khentoog
you're hillarious!

lol, just listening to parents' conversations I guess. And photo Anto was the competition of my uncle, Photo Sako :p we had to know who HE was.

[jahannam]

your uncle wins!!!
I've actually heard of photo sako!

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by jahannam your uncle wins!!!
I've actually heard of photo sako!

hahahaha!
sweeeeeeet

now if you've only heard of Joseph the xxxeler...


(how DO we write xxxeler? the 300 different ways you see them written on signs in Haleb have scarred me for life..)

[jahannam]

nope.. never heard of him!
but i've heard of a coiffeur joseph, if that counts! :D

[Shahumyan]

im pretty sure on of them is irana-hye
*shrugs*

either way, their music is brilliant. Genuinly good raw music, and i think the passion which lies in the music is very relevant to not only armenian youth, but youth internationally.

I only wish they would do a gig in Armenia, like in Hamalir :D

[jahannam]

ummm I know I'm straying from the topic
but Shahumyan?
I can't read the stuff on your avatar?
but ummmm are you promoting soviet Armenia?
lol
do you mind sharing some thoughts?

[Shahumyan]

sure, if you ask me any questions i will answer them to the best of my capability, we can start a thread if u wish...

[jahannam]

I asked you the question...
you seem to be ignoring it!
we don't need a new thread...

[Shahumyan]

righto

it ses "Haygagan Sovetakan Socialistakan Hanrapetutchun"

Do i support the former Armenian SSR? yes as a more progressive form of government to today

Would i change it if it was in government today? yes, as it was deformed into a beurocratic state

anything else deary?

[Arvestaked]

(Back to original topic.)
I only like the first album. The rest of it is overproduced audiofeces.

[whitelotus]

john and serj are halebtsy, shavo is hayastancy, and daron is barskahye

who cares.

[whitelotus]

ALSO, being a berutahye isnt a race , its the armenian ethnicity, our race is caucasion

[jahannam]

Originally posted by whitelotus john and serj are halebtsy, shavo is hayastancy, and daron is barskahye

who cares.

yeah, YOU're bringing it up, and then YOU're saying who cares...

people are weird.

[TigranJamharian]

OUR RACE IS ARYAN, NEVER FORGET THAT. SAYING CAUCASIan is like were xxxxin chechens or something.

[jahannam]

lol
don't you know armos?
it just sounds cooler if they said they were CAUCASIAN.
it sounds white.
it sounds "better"...

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by jahannam lol
don't you know armos?
it just sounds cooler if they said they were CAUCASIAN.
it sounds white.
it sounds "better"...

toon al sgsar hayeroon nor hivantootyoonner dalov?

Armenians are caucasian. How the hell does that sound any better?

Tabarnac, menk mer azkin himari degh ge tnenk adenner....

[TigranJamharian]

Armenians are Aryans. now that sounds good because of the common sound. i forgot the literary term for that. but we are Aryans so dont forget.

[whitelotus]

i KNOW we are an aryan race you dork.

but it still shouldnt make us feel arrogent up our asses.

stfu with all the ' white' stuff being ' cooler', give me a break, dont freaking assume im saying it in those terms, or thinking that way.

i dont give a xxxx about feeling ' cooler' when i say caucasion, it doesnt freaking matter, we are still part of the caucasion race, and we ARE aryan . Same crap.

our blood is aryan, same crap as caucasion, aryan blood.

i am who i am, I'm an armenian who has aryan blood, okay next...
lets move on shall we ?

im not racist nor elitest, im just stating that we are an aryan race. It doesnt matter if our blood is aryan, and others are mixed, i still dont feel better than the next person beside me. We are apart of the HUMAN race. End of story.

have a nice day.

[whitelotus]

Originally posted by jahannam yeah, YOU're bringing it up, and then YOU're saying who cares...

people are weird.


i was correcting what someone said incorrectly, and my point was, does it really matter what type of armenian they are ?(who cares ) we are all armenian anyway.

[TigranJamharian]

bro i was joking about the differences between the words. but you should feel elitist you should feel high bro we are of the race that has shaped the history of this world. please dont start with that xxxx about being part of the "human race" damn. why dont we just say we are part of the animal race or the living race so then we can love cocharoaches and flowers and plants as much as other Armenians

[TigranJamharian]

All Armenians must unite and keep our race pure from now on. Embrace the fellow Armenians and lets put away our trivial differences

[whitelotus]

im not a 'bro' :P im a girl.

like i said before, it doesnt matter where we are from, or what type of armenian we are, because we ARE armenian, and thats all that should matter.

Its sad that we all sit and pick at one another for the different dialect in which we all speak, or the suttle or major differences in traditions , lifestyles or changes in culture that we all have from seperating one another. It pushes us away from one another every second of the day. We should unite instead of bicker about at eachother. Thats the difference between us and everyone else. We have so much hatred for the other that we forget that we have a bigger agenda to achieve in this world, for Armenians. We should put aside our differences like tigran said and lets go forward in our future together to reach a higher goal.

Its one thing to be proud of where you are from (yerevan, iran, russia, france etc), but its another......to feel as if you are higher then someone else because you are a certain type of armenian.

Lets get rid of that type of attitude and accept one another for who we all are.

[ckBejug]

System of a Down is having a concet on April 24th at the Greek.. Proceeds are going to the ANC and genocide recognition agenda. Good stuff. They advertised this on KROQ this morning, Armenian Genocide and all. Very good job. =)

[TigranJamharian]

yeah. good stuff. It seems when they have a benefit concert a new album is on the way. Before toxicity came out they also did a benefit concert for genocide recognition and during the concert they played some of the new songs.

[ckBejug]

Originally posted by TigranJamharian yeah. good stuff. It seems when they have a benefit concert a new album is on the way. Before toxicity came out they also did a benefit concert for genocide recognition and during the concert they played some of the new songs.

Who cares if they use it as a commercial to boost their sales... the proceeds from the concert are going to Genocide recognition campaign and about 5 times a day when KROQ does the upcoming concerts ad they announce that it's for the 1915 Genocide of Armenians by the Turks. That's a good thing. Also, last year they had a concert on April 24 again and the whole concert venue was filled with Armenian flags and pamphlets about the Genocide etc etc etc... The more non-Armenians get exposed to this, the better it is for education about the genocide.....

[TigranJamharian]

hey i wasnt complaining i was saying its good

[loleeg]

system rocks!!! i love the pogo song hehehe

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Arvestaked (Back to original topic.)
I only like the first album. The rest of it is overproduced audiofeces.

I agree with the deranged mancow that paints squares.

[Wise]

We are armenian and what a luck?

[HyeJinx1984]

***FIRST POST***

i KNOW we are an aryan race you dork.

but it still shouldnt make us feel arrogent up our asses.

i dont give a xxxx about feeling ' cooler' when i say caucasion, it doesnt freaking matter, we are still part of the caucasion race, and we ARE aryan . Same crap.

our blood is aryan, same crap as caucasion, aryan blood.

i am who i am, I'm an armenian who has aryan blood, okay next...
lets move on shall we ?

im not racist nor elitest, im just stating that we are an aryan race. It doesnt matter if our blood is aryan, and others are mixed, i still dont feel better than the next person beside me. We are apart of the HUMAN race. End of story.

have a nice day.

Actually... there's no such thing as an Aryan. See, Aryans were beings in an old Indian (India) mythology which were "people of the sun." Hitler, being a huge mythology buff, took that term to represent his ideal race (all white, which by the way, we don't fit into) because to him the perfect people would indeed be "the people of the sun." Considering the "Aryans" began in India, the true Aryans would probably have dark skin, dark hair and dark eyes, unlike the people in Nazi Germany. It's a very misused term.

ALSO, being a berutahye isnt a race , its the armenian ethnicity, our race is caucasion.

Actually, being Berutsi or Baskahei or whatever is a nationality (cause it shows what nation you're from) and has nothing to do with enthicity at all. Their ethnicity stays the same: Armenian.

The name's Mike by the way, hope to post to here some more.

[A.R.]

Check This Out...

http://www.systemofadown.com/Videos/SystemTV2.ram

http://www.systemofadown.com/Videos/EPK.ram

http://soadnet.netfirms.com/video.htm

[A.R.]

"Today we cannot tolerate some secondary issues that are of outdated importance. We may not segregate between Armenians of Echmiadzin, Kilikia, Diaspora, Lebanon and the like. Such segregations may weaken us."


Hrant Margarian

[HyeJinx1984]

"Today we cannot tolerate some secondary issues that are of outdated importance. We may not segregate between Armenians of Echmiadzin, Kilikia, Diaspora, Lebanon and the like. Such segregations may weaken us."


Hrant Margarian

Smart guy. That said, I just bought Toxicity (yea I know, I'm a little late in the game). I really like some songs, but it's kinda hard to tell the difference between some of them.. 90% of it is the same nausiatingly repetitive noise... Best songs on the album are: Prison Song, Chop Suey, Toxicity, Innter Child, Bounce and Psycho.

[A.R.]

Check this out, some good downloads...


http://www.systemofadown.ru/

[HyeJinx1984]

My new favorite System song is ATWA, track 9 off of Toxicity

[Aphrodit3]

I don't like their music but I love what they're doing in regards to their status and their work for the Armenian Genocide and the Armenian community. I totally support them for this!

[spiral]

What is "System of a Down" supposed to mean? It doesn't sound like proper English.

[Anonymouse]

What is "System of a Down" supposed to mean? It doesn't sound like proper English.

Who are you to question "creativity" and "artistic value"?

[spiral]

O.k. Sorry, I won't do it again :o

[angelik22]

oOo cool i digg system's music! Yeah--im into the rock/punk rock/ heavy metal kind of stuff-- btw ive met them a few years back at some party-- theyre nice guys- a bit weird and eccentric but really nice-- theyre music is cool, but not everythig on theis CD is all that great- just a few tracks that are better than others.. but hey that's only my opinion

[HyeJinx1984]

ATWA... Best. Song. Ever.

[winoman]

I understand that a new SOAD album is due out this December (?) - think it was December that i heard...its supposed to be a big departure/maturation from their earlier style so they (the band) says...whatever that might mean (mellower?...hope not!)...anyway some orchestral arrangements and more Middle Eastern sounds as well...hear hear for the latter certainly...

[Emil]

I think Aerials is one of their better songs.

[winoman]

I think Aerials is one of their better songs.


agreed. I pretty much love everything on their first album. And there are some great ones on the second - but its not as original sounding from tune to tune in general (much of it blends togther and some is forgettable...still some great songs as well...besides aerials - toxicity, chop suey & pshyco are my faves...) - IMO...so hoping for even better with this next one...

[HyeJinx1984]

Aerials and Atwa are my two favoties and both have sorta a mellower tone to them. I like SOAD when they sing instead of scream. I love how almost everysong has a guitar solo by Darren doing something that sounds very Armenian... makes listening to it a bit more tolerable for my parents, lol.

[HyeJinx1984]

I have nothing of importance to say, I'm just sick of seeing the Gwen Stephani thread at the top.

[TigranJamharian]

This new CD better be some heavenly music. 3 years is a helluva long time to make a new album. Cant wait.

[!EEK]

I have nothing of importance to say, I'm just sick of seeing the Gwen Stephani thread at the top.


Right, plus it's blocked...there's no use..

Anyone knows, as friends, the artists of SOAD? Since many of you live in L.A., I won't be surprised that some of you are friends with them? Or must you keep this secret?

[HyeJinx1984]

Right, plus it's blocked...there's no use..

Anyone knows, as friends, the artists of SOAD? Since many of you live in L.A., I won't be surprised that some of you are friends with them? Or must you keep this secret?

I know one of my cousins used to date Shavo's cousin. She said they were xxxxs... but considering how stupid this particular cousin of mine is, I wouldn't blame them, lol.. she was probably an easy target. I still think they kick mucho ass.

[!EEK]

LOL, I hope for your cousin and her ex boyfriend are not reading those posts

[HyeJinx1984]

good point... ..................

[Juvenal]

hi

Is there any T-Shirt where System Of A Down refers to Armenia.
for exemple one with an Armenian Flag or something like that

has anyone any info?

thanx for your answer

greetings

[HyeJinx1984]

Yea, I'd very much like one of these too. I'd like to rival my friend's Hebrew "Grateful Dead" T-Shirts, hehe.

[marikal]

hi

Is there any T-Shirt where System Of A Down refers to Armenia.
for exemple one with an Armenian Flag or something like that

has anyone any info?

thanx for your answer

greetings

There's one shirt I saw that has a design on it that looks a bit Persian-ruggish; it doesn't look all that much like an Armenian carpet, but kinda. That's the closest I've seen to an Armenian reference.

[freedoo]

I recently found out my dad is armenian( never met him).

What should I do? Are there dress codes or bathing rituals? What about food? I dont like lamb testicles or yogurt. And I am a protestant.

This is really weird. I'm kinda freakin here. I figured he was just another american, now what do I do? Should I contact his family??? ( seems weird if they dont know about me).

[spiral]

Lamb testicles?

You've actually tried them?

Who eats lamb testicles?...

[One-Way]

Lamb testicles?

You've actually tried them?

Who eats lamb testicles?...

The weirdest things end up tasting very good. However, I don't think this is one of them. ;)

[nunechka]

John's last name is "Dolma"ian... lol! (stuffed grapeleaves?)

i love armenian last names... we have the bligyan or tsitsikyan... or touhshikyan... lol! or even vorikyan... lol!

[nunechka]

I recently found out my dad is armenian( never met him).

What should I do? Are there dress codes or bathing rituals? What about food? I dont like lamb testicles or yogurt. And I am a protestant.

This is really weird. I'm kinda freakin here. I figured he was just another american, now what do I do? Should I contact his family??? ( seems weird if they dont know about me).


SWEET! congrats you may now do the #1 thing that is armenian... COMPLAIN A LOT! [we are a lot like xxxish people for that reason] :laugh:

- dress code (must wear the latest and greatest - i am serious)
- bathing - in the US, everyday, everywhere else twice a week (lol)
- the food is great everything is good, i am not sure about the testicles (i've never heard of that) but we do eat goat brain (my dad loves it, i think it looks too much like human brain - or what i think human brain would look like boiled, so i dont eat it) otherwise you are in for the best healthiest (most of the time) food in the world, you can buy a cook book from any bookstore.
- most armenians, and i mean like 95% of us are Arakelakan (i think this Apostolic? in english), this owuld be the most relax form of christianity... i love it, PLUS! we still practic pagen traditions like sacrfices of goats or lamd or chickens, and we still do other fun things for celebrating certain seasonal gods... like in the summer we have celebrations with the water (water god, etc...)
- what is your other half? it doesnt matter actually, if they know about yuo they will love you... YES you should contact them... HURRY!

:wave:

[1womanARMY]

back to the topic (even tho i had a kick a$$ time reading your remarks...) I love SYSTEM...boys rock on...and shavo...i'll see you tonight...in my dreams! :p

[TomServo]

Did somebody say dolma?

[Barbarian]

there is no doubt about their songs beautness but they're anti Turkish. That'S why i hate'em although i listen

[Red Brigade]

there is no doubt about their songs beautness but they're anti Turkish. That'S why i hate'em although i listen

Sado.

[1womanARMY]

heres a few pictures of my boys...someones gotta help me with paste-ing...i always have too much trouble-o! :p

[1womanARMY]

SHAVO SHAVO SHAVO...why are you so HOT-O???

[One-Way]

I have his autograph sitting on my desk. He signed it for my sister.

[1womanARMY]

thats awesome my love.... :crying: but...i want one too!!!!... :( can you get one for me 2?

[One-Way]

I'll try, if my cousins go over again. Don't trip cutie. :)

[1womanARMY]

your the best, thanks sugar-plum! :p

[One-Way]

Haha, sugar-plum, cute.

[1womanARMY]

CHECK OUT THESE BAD A$$ES!!!!!

[spiral]

This might come as a shock to you...but they're actually not all that pleasant to look at. :)

[1womanARMY]

:naughty: Ya baby, they are :evil:

"different strokes..."

[One-Way]

spiral is right.

[1womanARMY]

hey! that wasn't berry nice
http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/2396/duckk3ox.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[1womanARMY]

hey! my imageshack isnt working right

[TomServo]

I don't think you're allowed to post pictures in this subforum.

[1womanARMY]

got-cha! that explains it

[One-Way]

Maybe you can't post picture of ugly people. Hence why it won't work when you try to post pictures of System. :)

[1womanARMY]

:eek: wtf!

[One-Way]

I keed.

[1womanARMY]

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7144/angelsleeping8zt.gif (http://imageshack.us)
damn it! i forgot about the no pictures!

[TomServo]

^Lmao.

[karoaper]

^Lmao.

I am not a hard metal or heavy metal fan.
But I did like the sample I heard of BYOB, Chop Suey and Question.
I bought them on Itunes. They're not bad actually. I feel an influx of energy whenever I hear that stuff. One thing though, these guys are no poets. Most of lyrics are very infantile and written by someone clearly high on something. The rythms though are quite catchy.

[Thai-Samurai]

their first cd is the best, it just goes downhill from there, and their steal this album is good if you don't care for creativity and just like noise, but their first album is the best

[One-Way]

^ Lmao @ no creativity and noise.

[TomServo]

their first cd is the best, it just goes downhill from there, and their steal this album is good if you don't care for creativity and just like noise, but their first album is the best
The samurai is right.

[karoaper]

The samurai is right.

What does the verse below from Chop Suey mean?

You don't trust in my self-rightous suicide
I cried when angels deserve to die

I've never been strong at deciphering expressionist poetry so, is there some meaning behind it or is it just crap.

[TomServo]

No clue.

[Thai-Samurai]

actually that lines pretty cool, but I don't know it means

[One-Way]

What does the verse below from Chop Suey mean?

You don't trust in my self-rightous suicide
I cried when angels deserve to die

I've never been strong at deciphering expressionist poetry so, is there some meaning behind it or is it just crap.

Not that hard to understand.

They don't trust in his self-righteous suicide, and he cries when innocent people die. Lol. Am I wrong? :)

[1womanARMY]

What does the verse below from Chop Suey mean?

You don't trust in my self-rightous suicide
I cried when angels deserve to die

I've never been strong at deciphering expressionist poetry so, is there some meaning behind it or is it just crap.

you don't belive my reasons are reasons
i think that the ones that are seen as angels deserve to die, that makes me cry...the world is so messed up that people that are percieved as "good" really aren't, that makes me sad inside...corrupt world? could it be?

that's what i luv about system, take there words and make them into something each person can have on there own...plus on the outside, they seem to have a message for the all humanity...pretty cool, i dig!

[One-Way]

^ What about my lyrics? Tell them how good those are.

[chrispy007]

System of a Down (sometimes referred to as S.O.A.D. or System) is a band from Los Angeles, California that formed in 1995. The band consists of Serj Tankian (vocals, keyboards), John Dolmayan (drums), Daron Malakian (guitar, vocals) and Shavo Odadjian (bass), who are known for the outspoken social and political views found in their songs. All four members are of Armenian ancestry.

[One-Way]

^ That was the most random post I've ever seen in my life.

[TomServo]

System of a Down (sometimes referred to as S.O.A.D. or System) is a band from Los Angeles, California that formed in 1995. The band consists of Serj Tankian (vocals, keyboards), John Dolmayan (drums), Daron Malakian (guitar, vocals) and Shavo Odadjian (bass), who are known for the outspoken social and political views found in their songs. All four members are of Armenian ancestry.
I thought they were xxxish...

[Anonymouse]

I thought they were xxxish...

Your post is xxx rated.

[TomServo]

Your post is xxx rated.
YOU'RE XXX RATED!

[Starweaver]

Well ofcoure SOAD could never reach the heights of such wonders as Aram Assatryan and tata who have done so much more than SOAD to promote armenian culture and genocide awareness...........

[TomServo]

Toot toot toot.

[One-Way]

Well ofcoure SOAD could never reach the heights of such wonders as Aram Assatryan and tata who have done so much more than SOAD to promote armenian culture and genocide awareness...........

But SOAD reaches out to the youth by doing a show on or around the Genocide day every year in LA. (Minus this year).

[Quarteria]

Okay, I must ask this: Are these guys popular in Armenia? Do the people THERE actually like them? They exercise their freedom of speech right a lot against the President and I thought Armenia isn't against America in Iraq. What do the people of Armenia think about them?

[tunot]

What is "System of a Down" supposed to mean? It doesn't sound like proper English.

I interpreted it as a system that continuously causes the downfall of society. Think politics, institutions like schools, etc.

Serj said that artistic freedom should allow everyone to interpret it their own way.

Downside of SOAD: I'd like to hear them sing in Armenian. Just once. I know they all speak Armenian. So why not write just one song in Armenian? They had a chance to sing Ter Voghormia on Toxicity, I believe (the hidden track at the end with Arto Tuncboyaciyan), but they only hum along. Now imagine something like "Sugar" in Armenian. "Shakar". Why not?

[ace]

I interpreted it as a system that continuously causes the downfall of society. Think politics, institutions like schools, etc.

Serj said that artistic freedom should allow everyone to interpret it their own way.

Downside of SOAD: I'd like to hear them sing in Armenian. Just once. I know they all speak Armenian. So why not write just one song in Armenian? They had a chance to sing Ter Voghormia on Toxicity, I believe (the hidden track at the end with Arto Tuncboyaciyan), but they only hum along. Now imagine something like "Sugar" in Armenian. "Shakar". Why not?

They sing Armenian at live concerts alot. Its sick beyond belief.

[tunot]

They sing Armenian at live concerts alot. Its sick beyond belief.

Since when? Why not their albums? I've never heard it. Then again, I've never been to their concert.

[One-Way]

Okay, I must ask this: Are these guys popular in Armenia? Do the people THERE actually like them? They exercise their freedom of speech right a lot against the President and I thought Armenia isn't against America in Iraq. What do the people of Armenia think about them?

Well, that's something you'd have to ask a person who lives in Armenia, right?

Since when? Why not their albums? I've never heard it. Then again, I've never been to their concert.

What artists might do on stage, and on an album, differs for many reasons. What they do on stage, for certain events, might be for personal beliefs, for the fans sake.

[tunot]

What artists might do on stage, and on an album, differs for many reasons. What they do on stage, for certain events, might be for personal beliefs, for the fans sake.

Thank you for explaining the difference between an album and a concert, but that wasn't actually my question. When did SOAD start doing this? And what do they sing during their concerts? No bootlegs?

[imhye]

Am I the only one who finds it appalling that a group of drug addicts represent Armenians?

[TomServo]

Am I the only one who finds it appalling that a group of drug addicts represent Armenians?
Pretty much.

[Quarteria]

Am I the only one who finds it appalling that a group of drug addicts represent Armenians?

They are confirmed drug addicts?

I don't know how I feel about them. They are energetic on stage, I like the music, Serj has a nice voice, but, politically, I can't agree with them, & if they're druggies, that's not cool, either. I want them to be better representations, but, like Cher & Dr. Kavorkian -- they're American who just happen to be Armenian in blood. (And I know one or two of them were born IN Armenia, but, they were raised here & they're all citizens and influenced by here, are they not?) I think, and I could be wrong, they were influenced by the state of California and like all Americans, just want money. That is why I asked before (not knowing if anybody from Armenia is actually on this forum or if some of you have friends or family you talk to there), how are they perceived over IN Armenia? Are the Armenians actually PROUD that THESE men are famous and doing good for their country or do they regard them as Americans?

[One-Way]

Thank you for explaining the difference between an album and a concert, but that wasn't actually my question. When did SOAD start doing this? And what do they sing during their concerts? No bootlegs?

I don't know, I've heard they sing parts of old Armenian songs.

[imhye]

Actually, two were born in Lebanon. The singer and the drummer.

One was born in Armenia. The guy with the shaved head and narrow-long beard.

The other one that wears women clothing and is really messed up with drugs is born in the US.

True that they are American citizens and influenced, but I was born here and influenced as well, doesn't mean I do drugs.

They all do drugs, this is typical.

But seriously, the only people they really taught the story of the genocide are those rocker, goth, and so-called anarchist type people. I don't find them very useful, rather embarrassing.

I wish there were more Armenian actor-like celebrities that would help in a more classy manner.

[Quarteria]

Actually, two were born in Lebanon. The singer and the drummer.

One was born in Armenia. The guy with the shaved head and narrow-long beard.

The other one that wears women clothing and is really messed up with drugs is born in the US.

True that they are American citizens and influenced, but I was born here and influenced as well, doesn't mean I do drugs.

They all do drugs, this is typical.

But seriously, the only people they really learned the story of the genocide are those rocker, goth, and so-called anarchist type people. I don't find them very useful, rather embarrassing.

I wish there were more Armenian actor-like celebrities that would help in a more classy manner.

:D Firstly, I thank you for refering to them by their descriptions & not their names as I only know the names of the two born in Lebanon (and the vocalist being vegetarian -- NO KHEMA!!! That's just WRONG!!). Isn't Shavo the one with red hair & green eyes (at least he looks that way in the pics). And the one who wears the Egyptian eye make-up. Does he LOOK Armenian? He jsut doesn't look Armenian to me. He's involved in the Occult (or, "fascinated" by it, I have read...minus the spelling error if there is one).

I didn't mean to imply that those raised in America do drugs, but, what I was saying is...asking, really, do they ACT more American or Armenian?

Who is "They all"? SOAD or rockers in general?

I'm glad you said this, actually. I want to like them less for these reasons, but, being as they ARE Armenian and I feel that there are so very few of us that to speak out against anybody who has made it big would be almost traitor-ish, in a way.

[One-Way]

My aunt is friends with Shavo's parents. They're pretty close, apparently.

[imhye]

It's hard to remember names but you can't forget descriptions of these guys :)

Fortunately they moved past this look:

http://kniazeu.by.ru/images/music/system_of_down_photo.jpg

To a more reasonable image. http://www.bmgnews.de/PARI/KAT/DOCU0/FOTO3/I/200304-16823I4880.jpg

No, the one that wears weird eye shadow and makup is Daron. Shavo (long beard) is the bassit I believe.

In my opinion, I think they act more American than Armenian. They just happen to be Armenian who promote the Armenian Genocide.

Although I am also interested to find out how they are perceived in Armenia. Anyone know? Anyone from Armenia here?

Also, I am not saying these things to make Armenians dislike them. It's okay to like them and their music, I just find them not the best for promoting Armenian issues. Also they aren't good role models for young Armenians.


Edit: I didn't mean they promote the Armenian Genocide (that sounded bad), I meant they try to raise awareness.

[Quarteria]

My aunt is friends with Shavo's parents. They're pretty close, apparently.

The guys in the band?

[TomServo]

Hell's bells.

[Quarteria]

This (http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=6e75d47a49646ebc96253 0197d26b998&from=rss) is what they did this year.

[One-Way]

^ Yeah, I just read an article in the paper. They've been talking to Congress, trying to get them to recognize the Genocide. Good move. Maybe that's why they canceled their concert this year.

The guys in the band?

Yeah.

[Quarteria]

I don't know if this is what you were on about, One-Way, but, they're going on hiatus...THEY'RE NOT BREAKING UP.

[One-Way]

Didn't say they were.

[Quarteria]

Didn't say they were.

No, I know. But, this is something the articles keep stressing so just in case anybody was curious, I decided to ephasize this as well.

[parthiapride]

:D Firstly, I thank you for refering to them by their descriptions & not their names as I only know the names of the two born in Lebanon (and the vocalist being vegetarian -- NO KHEMA!!! That's just WRONG!!). Isn't Shavo the one with red hair & green eyes (at least he looks that way in the pics). And the one who wears the Egyptian eye make-up. Does he LOOK Armenian? He jsut doesn't look Armenian to me. He's involved in the Occult (or, "fascinated" by it, I have read...minus the spelling error if there is one).

I didn't mean to imply that those raised in America do drugs, but, what I was saying is...asking, really, do they ACT more American or Armenian?

Who is "They all"? SOAD or rockers in general?

I'm glad you said this, actually. I want to like them less for these reasons, but, being as they ARE Armenian and I feel that there are so very few of us that to speak out against anybody who has made it big would be almost traitor-ish, in a way.



Like I said, one of the gayest bands I've ever listened too.

:rolleyes:


Drugs aren't bad. People are.

[raffi007]

Like I said, one of the gayest bands I've ever listened too.

:rolleyes:


Drugs aren't bad. People are.

not big on the band myself and agree (can't believe it) with the guy who commented above..

[tunot]

They are confirmed drug addicts?

A Dutch music journalist once visited Mr. Serj and interviewed him at his home. Midway the interview, the journalist said that he had lost count of the number of hits Serj had taken from his bong.

When offered a joint before a concert in the Netherlands, Serj is said to have said: "There's tobacco in it. That won't do for me." Or words to that effect.

That same evening, he was wobbly on stage and on more than two occasions yelled through his microphone: "I'm too goddamn stoned!"

The Dutch super-joint apparently had more effect on him than he could have dreamed of.

Upon confronting my proud father with these facts, he said: "If he needs the drugs, then let him have them." When I reminded him that there were younger members of his family who enjoyed a smoke once in a while, he gave me a look and said: "That's different."

[Quarteria]

not big on the band myself and agree (can't believe it) with the guy who commented above..

HEY!!! SHUT UP!!!:mad: You don't know what you're talking abo...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/adstrinity/SerjDaron1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/adstrinity/SoadBed.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/adstrinity/SOADJail.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/adstrinity/Daron-Shavarsh1.jpg

...Oh...Nevermind.:( :o Carry on, then...

[imhye]

First time I am hearing System of a Down sing in Armenian, so it is true! ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzqHoUiQ0XI

The video sucks (I think it's some camera phone) but it's definitely those guys. The description says Daron is singing it for his girlfriend. I feel sorry for the girl.:p

[Quarteria]

Heheheh, yeah, so, anyway I am going to Ozzfest this year...they're playing there...I'll keep you all posted.

:D :D :D :D :D I'M GOING TO SEE THEM!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

[HyeWayCop]

Serj Tankian Beirutsi
Daron Malakian Halebtsi
Shavo Odajian Hyeastanci
John Dolmayan Beirutsi

[TomServo]

Daron Malakian Halebtsi

Wrong. :eek:

[crusader1492]

Last year, in October, I was sitting with my fiance at a resturant called "The Club", in Yerevan, when out of the blue Serj non-chalantly walk in with a few other people. No one really made a big deal about it except me...I was sort of shocked, so I shouted "Serj...I love you man" across the table. I think he was a little taken aback by my enthusiasm, as he ended up moving to another table out of veiw to mine. However, prior to moving, he came up to my table and chated for a few minutes. He was very gracious, in spite of my "school girl" moment. The only gripe I had was that he rejected my request to take a picture with him...he said "maybe later, outside"...I took the clue...oh well.
Anyway, I'm still a huge fan and I'm sure my path will cross with Serj again someday.
It's a small Armenian world.

[MrSevBeanie]

Some famous Armenians that I know of are :
System Of A Down , Cher , Gwen Stefani (Half) , Andre Agassi (Half)... that's all I can think of. Who else is a fmaous Armenian?

[connexile]

I don`t know what it means but Daron`s last name, "Malakian" means "son of pu*sy" . huhauha. lol.

[Mireille]

i love SOAD...i went to their concert when they came to Montreal...it was outdoor on a rainy day..oh man they rock...i took a nice mud shower that day :D lol

[Folk]

I want to ask a question dwelling in my mind.

SOAD (System of a Down) is an Armenian band as far as I know, a few members of it may be non-Armenian, I don't have much information about them.

In Turkey it is said that this band made a banner on which "Turks and dogs are not allowed" is written hung up in a concert. Because of this, SOAD is hated so much. Yet, there is a great number of SOAD fans in Turkey. This fact makes fascists so furious and they regard Turkish SOAD fans as villain.

But then I heard that that banner was made by some fascist Armenians, not SOAD members. Even SOAD members attempted to leave the concert when they saw the banner, but they were convined to go on.

Now I want to ask you what the truth is about that incident. The concert was in 2005 as far as I remember.

Peace...

[PepsiAddict]

Folk, all the members of SOAD are of Armenian descent.

Furthermore this is the first time I'm hearing about this & I follow on SOAD updates quite a lot I doubt they did such a thing like that.

[Federate]

What a load of crap.

http://www.hurryupharry.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dogs-armenians-xxxs.jpg

[KanadaHye]

What a load of crap.

http://www.hurryupharry.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dogs-armenians-xxxs.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4090905169_b242d1a820_o.jpg

[Muhaha]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4090905169_b242d1a820_o.jpg

What do the signs say? No Armenians, No xxxs, but dogs allowed?

[Pedro Xaramillo]

What do the signs say? No Armenians, No xxxs, but dogs allowed?

Yeah I argued about this with a few Pan Turkists on Pravda, it is what it says in short

[KanadaHye]

Basically....

One sign says "No Armenians or Yews are allowed through this door"

The other sign says "Dogs are free to come in"

[hipeter924]

Basically....

One sign says "No Armenians or Yews are allowed through this door"

The other sign says "Dogs are free to come in"
Solution: Dress up as a dog :naughty:

http://www.papermag.com/blogs/snoopy01.jpg

[Yedtarts]

Basically....

One sign says "No Armenians or Yews are allowed through this door"

The other sign says "Dogs are free to come in"
By "Dogs" I think they mean "turks", especially the stupid ones which are the grand majority.

[Folk]

I want to ask a question dwelling in my mind.

SOAD (System of a Down) is an Armenian band as far as I know, a few members of it may be non-Armenian, I don't have much information about them.

In Turkey it is said that this band made a banner on which "Turks and dogs are not allowed" is written hung up in a concert. Because of this, SOAD is hated so much. Yet, there is a great number of SOAD fans in Turkey. This fact makes fascists so furious and they regard Turkish SOAD fans as villain.

But then I heard that that banner was made by some fascist Armenians, not SOAD members. Even SOAD members attempted to leave the concert when they saw the banner, but they were convined to go on.

Now I want to ask you what the truth is about that incident. The concert was in 2005 as far as I remember.

Peace...

Friends, nobody haven't replied my question totaly yet. Let me ask again by quotating my first post in this topic. Do you know this incident? What's the truth? Is it true or just a lie made up by fascist Turks in order to throw dirt on SOAD? Or is it true but that banner was made by fascist Armenians, not SOAD?

[Federate]

Friends, nobody haven't replied my question totaly yet. Let me ask again by quotating my first post in this topic. Do you know this incident? What's the truth? Is it true or just a lie made up by fascist Turks in order to throw dirt on SOAD? Or is it true but that banner was made by fascist Armenians, not SOAD?
Don't you get it? It's an obvious lie. We posted for you the REAL version of events through a picture taken in Turkey which said "Armenians and xxxs not welcome; Dogs allowed".

[Folk]

Don't you get it? It's an obvious lie. We posted for you the REAL version of events through a picture taken in Turkey which said "Armenians and xxxs not welcome; Dogs allowed".

Some users just said that they didn't know about it. I just wanted to repeat my question in order to get more answers.

Yes, I saw that picture. And I feel shame at this becuse I am living on the same territory with those fascists..

[TheSARSVolta]

I met Shavo a few years ago. My friend dragged me to Ozzfest and I didn't protest because the ticket was no expense, although many of the bands featured were mall-metal weaksauce.
Nevertheless SOAD put on a memorable show, and I had never been a fanatic but was always at least intrigued by them (mixed overall feelings--some of their albums were solid--others not so much).
Anyhow...a few hours after their set was finished, my boyfriend at the time and myself were in a long line waiting to get some lemonade (all beverages were $5! wtf).

I remember protesting, "this sh*t better have THC in it if I'm paying five dollars to drink it" and a tall/thin/bald/goatee'd guy in front of us in line turns around, laughs and replies with "I hear that!" I then realized it was the bassist I had seen onstage a few hours previous, mainly identifiable by the long, braided goatee and unusual height (I would say around 6'5").
I wasn't quite starstruck, but tickled that I shared a spontaneous b*tchfest over lemonade with System's bassist...who was in fact, pretty attractive in my book :)

[Haykakan]

I met Shavo a few years ago. My friend dragged me to Ozzfest and I didn't protest because the ticket was no expense, although many of the bands featured were mall-metal weaksauce.
Nevertheless SOAD put on a memorable show, and I had never been a fanatic but was always at least intrigued by them (mixed overall feelings--some of their albums were solid--others not so much).
Anyhow...a few hours after their set was finished, my boyfriend at the time and myself were in a long line waiting to get some lemonade (all beverages were $5! wtf).

I remember protesting, "this sh*t better have THC in it if I'm paying five dollars to drink it" and a tall/thin/bald/goatee'd guy in front of us in line turns around, laughs and replies with "I hear that!" I then realized it was the bassist I had seen onstage a few hours previous, mainly identifiable by the long, braided goatee and unusual height (I would say around 6'5").
I wasn't quite starstruck, but tickled that I shared a spontaneous b*tchfest over lemonade with System's bassist...who was in fact, pretty attractive in my book :)

Thats a pretty cool story. SOAD guys seem pretty cool in rl from what i have heard so far.

[TheSARSVolta]

he seemed rather subtle and soft spoken...but no doubt a nice guy