a new armenian rap group...

[hyethug05]

There is a new rap group called the Armenian Mafia...I found them in a LA chat, they are from Detroit. Their website is www.thearmenianmafia.tk they are pretty tight...I was talking to one of the members and he said they would have their songs on there in a week or so. So check it out

[Anonymouse]

There are so many things wrong with this, oh where oh where shall I begin?

Number 1: Armenians who pretend to be black suck.

Number 2: Most rap sucks and takes no talent to rap.

Number 3: Anyone who disagrees with the above two sucks ass and I suggest you go kill yourself.

No hard feelings.


Regards,
Mani

[hyethug05]

Actually rap does take talent, and who said they try to act black? yeah so shut up you dont know anything bro


"No hard feelings"

[Anonymouse]

Chillin in my life getting hye watching time fly I sit in my benz and I cruise with muh friends and I roll with da playaz and I cap on them hataz.

Yea that sounds real cool and original. What's even more fun is that there a bunch of pre pubescent teens.

What's this world coming to.

[Anonymouse]

Actually rap does take talent, and who said they try to act black? yeah so shut up you dont know anything bro


"No hard feelings"
Oh what's this? How does rapping take talent? You haven't explained your case kiddo. And by the way if you like to rap then you are trying to be black since thuggish rap culture is what blacks invented and therefore you are mimicing them. I can honestly suggest not using "bro" in your line since you are a thug and it wouldn't look good for your image to use "bro" a well known white boy slang. So avoid contradictions and pick a style and live it.

[hyethug05]

that had to be the worst line of rap i've ever heard

[Anonymouse]

RAP? Listen rhyming and poetry is what its about, if you want to create street slangs and other thuggish crap and call it rap and invent your own ghetto words, be my guest, but you fail to prove how it takes talent to rap.

First you state that it takes talent and now you respond and you don't even explain how it takes talent. You cant even state your claims. Now terminate yourself.

[hyethug05]

Yup, Im taking "blacks raps" BRO!...i dont really care what you have to say, so just end it, you think what u say has an affect on me? so just end it your nothing and i bet your nothing to a lot of other people to so stop trying to act all smart and cool...bro

[Anonymouse]

Im not smart or cool and I am not "acting" I am giving you an honest opinion that rap sucks and Armenians who try to rap and be thugs and be black are degenerates only degenerating Armenian culture and they have no place in my book and I hope you get alot of anvils dropped on you.

[spiral]

Armenians and rap don't mesh well. It just doesnt work. I can't keep a straight face and look at some armenian guy rap at the same time.

I was watching that Grisha Agha(something)yan show, and this armenian guy was on, named "Dro", and he raps. So the guy seems pretty nice, and all, but he could barely put a few words of armenian together, which doesnt look / sound too nice. Anyways he had his doggy with him. Ugly little thing (but to me all dogs are ugly). Anyways so he's really trying to get somewhere with his rapping.

What's my point?....got lost somewhere between the first and second paragraph. I dunno

[Anonymouse]

The point is anyone who raps is a talent lacking moron who has the IQ of a french fry covered with fire ants and can't do much in school, cant comprehend the laws of thermodynamics, and must resort to half assed little xxxxing gigs and seek validation for his putrid existence.

[hyethug05]

you think rap is just for blacks, and i read your other discussion on blacks, your racist which is really gay because blacks are as equal as everyone, and if an armenian wants to rap, thats his choice, I doubt they care if someone on the internet says otherwise.

[Fitty Percent]

:evil: AIGHT, lemme calm down before i cuss yo ass out sooooo bad you dont come back. Color has absolutely NOTHING to do w/ the culture of rap.Who siad it was for black people? And just for yalls information BLACK PPL DISCOVERD ROCK AND ARE A HUGE INSPARATION ON MUSIC OF ALL TYPES! Now you xxxxin wanna play wit me bring ya racist ignorant, Wanna act like you know sumthin ass to my hood xxxxx and ill sho you how i play! and there are black armenians. And who said we "act black"? Just becuz we like rap dont mean we wish we were black! Now, if i need to talk again to you then you best not read the post cuz itz gonna xxxxin be mad ass! you know what im mad right now so ima let loose! YOU JUST A JEALOUS MUTHA xxxxA WHO PROBLY WISHES YOU FIT IN WIT EVERY GANGSTA OR SOME xxxx! WHO IS YOU TA SAY THAT WE ACT BLACK? YOU IS PROBLY SUM HICK LIVIN ON SOME FARM!!!!! RAP DOES TOO xxxxIN TAKE TALENT xxxxx! YOU CANT JUST SPIT GOOD RHYMES AS YOU GO! WANNA TRY? NA DIDNT THINK SO YO EXCUSE IS PROBLY "ITS STUPID AND POINTLESS" xxxxx YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT IS CUZ YOU NEVA TRIED OR BATTLED SOMEONE. YOU PROBLY JUST GRUMPY BECAUSE YOU NEVA GOTTEN LAID OR SOME xxxx. NAN WAY.....DONT COME UP IN HERE ACTIN LIKE YOU KNOW xxxxx CUZ I WILL WASTE YA ASS!!!!!

[hyethug05]

true dat 50...dont mess with AM its all up in here...who said u have to be black to rap?




AM UP!

[clubbin714]

Anonymouse is correct.

[mizzcharagigi]

i know you all just love the whole "equal" bullxxxx america has fed you... everyone's equal my ass... i want any of you armenian "thugs" to go to compton or south central and try to prove to one of the black people there that whites don't "act" black...

[Anonymouse]

you think rap is just for blacks, and i read your other discussion on blacks, your racist which is really gay because blacks are as equal as everyone, and if an armenian wants to rap, thats his choice, I doubt they care if someone on the internet says otherwise.
First of all little boy I am not "racist", that term is a modern PC term invented during the hippie era. Second of all, I just prefer my kind over others, and is there anything wrong with that?

As far as "equal" you don't know anything so I wouldn't open my xxxxxxx if I were you. Equality is an unknown concept in nature, just like freedom because everything in nature has limitations and is unequal. How are we equal? because we are humans? I think not. We have differnet cultures, different languages, intellects, capacities, reaction times, and not to mention morphological differences that go to the genetic level. Your half assed response is just sad and I recommend you terminate yourself from these boards. There is no room for wanna be black ass ghetto thuggin Armos on this.

[Anonymouse]

:evil: AIGHT, lemme calm down before i cuss yo ass out sooooo bad you dont come back. Color has absolutely NOTHING to do w/ the culture of rap.Who siad it was for black people? And just for yalls information BLACK PPL DISCOVERD ROCK AND ARE A HUGE INSPARATION ON MUSIC OF ALL TYPES! Now you xxxxin wanna play wit me bring ya racist ignorant, Wanna act like you know sumthin ass to my hood xxxxx and ill sho you how i play! and there are black armenians. And who said we "act black"? Just becuz we like rap dont mean we wish we were black! Now, if i need to talk again to you then you best not read the post cuz itz gonna xxxxin be mad ass! you know what im mad right now so ima let loose! YOU JUST A JEALOUS MUTHA xxxxA WHO PROBLY WISHES YOU FIT IN WIT EVERY GANGSTA OR SOME xxxx! WHO IS YOU TA SAY THAT WE ACT BLACK? YOU IS PROBLY SUM HICK LIVIN ON SOME FARM!!!!! RAP DOES TOO xxxxIN TAKE TALENT xxxxx! YOU CANT JUST SPIT GOOD RHYMES AS YOU GO! WANNA TRY? NA DIDNT THINK SO YO EXCUSE IS PROBLY "ITS STUPID AND POINTLESS" xxxxx YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT IS CUZ YOU NEVA TRIED OR BATTLED SOMEONE. YOU PROBLY JUST GRUMPY BECAUSE YOU NEVA GOTTEN LAID OR SOME xxxx. NAN WAY.....DONT COME UP IN HERE ACTIN LIKE YOU KNOW xxxxx CUZ I WILL WASTE YA ASS!!!!!

Number one youre lame. Number two its not "color" per se, its race and black people have created a distinct culture in America and from that urban ghetto culture came rap. Who else invented rap I ask you? Tell me dumbass. If not blacks then who? Some white yokels? Anyway the rest of your rambling is just stupidity clouded in ebonics. Do me a favor and unplug your computer or press ALT+F4 or something.

[Anonymouse]

Titty percent = the resident wanna be black guy.

[vrej]

ohhh God this is too funny hahaha anonymous man you're one unique individual... listen guys i have had my own share of discussions with anon, he's a tough cookie.... but gotta give it to him some of his points are pretty vallid!!

p.s anon we gatto start another one of our intrigueing arguments!! just tell me when u post something u think will pisss me off lol!!

later gaters! :twisted:

[spiral]

:D This is so funny

[Fitty Percent]

anonymouse.....
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
Posts: 466
Location: A cardboard utopia in California

wow you really dont have a life do you?? Do you just sit here all day and type posts to ppl all day? You just keep posting and posting and posting. The fact is that rap has no "Race" as you prefer from your previous post. My conclusion about you is that you are a fat xxxx who sits on the computer all day and types out posts on this message board, this is probly why you make no sense at all and know nothing of the outside world. If you dont like rap then dont respond! I live in Detroit, and i have many black friends who KNOW i dont act black but like rap.... And in your post "Titty percent" its Fitty percent, but i will excuse you because i know that your fat fingers must have accedently hit the T key instead of F. Now go look and some porno and try to masturbate with your shrivled up xxxx xxxxa![/b]

[Fitty Percent]

O and i will check back in about 5 min for a response scince you stay on this forum all day and type posts! Did you drop out of school just to post posts on fourms all day?

[hyethug05]

Thats right 50 and i are straight from Detroit, so dont try to act like you know us at all. Yes we like rap..does that me we act black? Exactly so why dont you go play in traffic. This hole convo wouldnt have been so bad if you stopped acting like a complete stiff. Go out get a life and get on with it because you only have one, and from what i can tell it is the worst I have heard of.

[TVAdict710]

okay lemme lay down the facts here for all u white trash. rap is good "music". i put music in quotes because i know anonymouse is going to hassle me about it so i dont want to go through that. THAT, and it's just reproduced tunes from the '80s with fresh new beats. i myself am a fan of rap "music". but i will go on the record here and say that i do agree with anon on his points that it really does take no talent to rap. the only thing you have to really know how to do is dodge a few bullets and say words to a beat, which any half-retarded person can do (which is surprising considering what some of the more famous rappers' IQs i speculate are). in short...rap "music" is IN FACT a no talent yet enjoyable form of sound waves that to some has either a negative effect or positive effect.

[hyethug05]

So you agree with anom that rap is only for blacks, if you do then you are a messed up person who should get out of the U.S. as fast as possible cause xxxs arent wanted...? If you dont then back it up and talk about it.

[TVAdict710]

no, i'm not saying that it's only for black people; this is a free country and people have the right to decide what music they want to listen to. i myself am white and, i'll say it again, i'm a fan of rap music. and what is that about xxxs not being wanted in the u.s., i dont think you made that clear in your statement.

[mizzcharagigi]

i myself am white and.


Hahahaha, ever noticed your avatar???

[Fitty Percent]

"okay lemme lay down the facts here for all u white trash"

R u calling us white trash? :D

[hyethug05]

Ok...so you guys dont like rap(anom) then end it, stop being a xxx and get out of our conversation...your not wanted by anyone...[/quote]

[hyethug05]

YES WHITES CAN LIKE RAP

[Anonymouse]

Hahaha these two little pesky Armenian kids with their delusions of grandeur in wanting to be niggaz are here justifying their putrid existence, just like clubbinkillaman714 with his clubbin stories. These forums are a place for intellectual giants, not mediocre midgets, so gladly disembowel yourselves while stuffing a used tampon down your throats. Since you whiny little gutterslugs have nothing else to look forward to in your pointless and stupid lives ( other than rap of course ), I have decided to forever view you as non-Armenian degenerates. You pukes are no worse than the rabies, exporting their Turko-Asiatic crap over ourselves, except you guys are exporting another form of negative crap this time from the Africus Malarkis breed.

In any event you kids are not original and it takes a true genius to be. You are just little putrid boys who have beens panked by your mommy too much and so you want to declare your toughness to Armenians all over this forum, and mind you its not even 200 people!

Now now children no need for another lame response from the rat rap crap group. :twisted:

[vrej]

you are a messed up person who should get out of the U.S. as fast as possible cause xxxs arent wanted...? .

First off the U.S is the land of the xxxs, and all the messed up people are in the U.S, so its more like if you messed up and are a xxx go to the U.S!

i just wanted to notify you of this, and also i would like to mention that Armenian Music is the real type of music, that takes work to produce. since we are all Armenian lets take some time and praise Armenian music rather than rap or hippy hoppy which i agree does not take much talent!!!

now who wants to have an oghi with me and sing patriotic armenian songs??!!
"THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!"
-quoted from anon's thread

[Anonymouse]

I'll agree Vrej as long as by Armenian music you don't mean the bastardized Turko Asiatic yoddling that rabies music is. Armenian music has degenerated into this crap and I hate it. xxxx anyone who subsidizes and promotes this vile poison that spread amongst the culture like a cancer.

[vrej]

I liike all armenian music especially the old ones which are armenian in their purest form!

[sSsflamesSs]

I am taking a 2-unit class on Armenian Music. :D

[Lilya]

yea traditional Armenian music is cool but the arabic/turkish style that has become popular among Armenian singers lately really sucks and i would never admit to a non-Armenian that this is Armenian music. unfortunately, some of them do think of this as Armenian music .. my friend asked me if we do our belly dances with this music... What a disgrace!!!!!!!

[sSsflamesSs]

Yea, what a shame...traditional Armenian dance doesn't include anything that has to do with "belly dancing"...only graceful hand and arm movements.

[Nerwen Telemnar]

Rap is crap. I'm a simpleton

[TVAdict710]

"okay lemme lay down the facts here for all u white trash"

R u calling us white trash? :D

no, i'm just xxxxin around.

[TVAdict710]

i myself am white.


Hahahaha, ever noticed your avatar???

yes, that is just a front so u other white people are scared of me because i may have a gun.

[Anonymouse]

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/grannysharepr0n-Lazarus2000.jpg

[hyethug05]

anom u talk like u are the king or something...no one likes you, why dont u get a life and get on with it. you seriously act like the biggest loser man. i bet you sit at ur computer and do nothing but post messages to make yourself feel better, to raise your self-esteem.

[Anonymouse]

anom u talk like u are the king or something...no one likes you, why dont u get a life and get on with it. you seriously act like the biggest loser man. i bet you sit at ur computer and do nothing but post messages to make yourself feel better, to raise your self-esteem.

How did you know that? Do you have a magic 8 ball too?! NO! I bet it was the fortune cookie that told you that right? Why are you so right everytime?

[Fitty Percent]

Why are you so right everytime?
BECUZ xxxxx WE OWN YA ASS! You just xxxxin sit at ya computer ALL xxxxin day. Do you know why you got that add? Becuz Granny knows that you look at porn all day and masturbate so much your xxxx has become crusty and shriveled. Now stop masturbateing so MAYBE one day you can actually pay someone for sex! Wow, When you loose your virginity let me know (if im not dead). Your Sperm probly doesnt even come out anymore becuz its all used up. How sad. I fell bad for your xxxx :(

[sSsflamesSs]

Potty mouth.

[Anonymouse]

Apparently titty percent has an avid imagination and thinks that by trying to attach haphazard imaginitive insults to me I will somehow be vaguely offended, but look at all the effort he put into it. Hehehe Titty Percent is a true thug.

[hyethug05]

time to shut up your just annoying and gay now

[Fitty Percent]

Titty Percent is a true thug now!
Again i need to correct u :( why dont you learn? or is it becuz your fingers are too fat to type? You must either be REALLY fat or a sped who rides the short bus to skool. But im assuming your REALLY fat becuz u spend your whole day posting messages to ppl. Now your saying i use my imaginitive insults or whatever? take a look at the quote. Do you have friends? What do you do on weekends hmmmm ill be nice and save you sum time you just POST POST POST POST POST. Now take your fat ass and go buy a jelly doughnut at the doughnut shop nextdoor to your apartment.......Have a Nice day!

[SaSSoun]

havent been on this thing in a while now. from what I understand you guys have formed a new rap group? I see you guys cursing-out these guys just because of "difference in opinion" which I think is totally childish. if I were a fan and disagreed with ur groups persona, song. bla bla (u get the idea) would u cuss me out too? isnt the idea to gain, attract fans? even if they arent fans of rap it isnt an excuse. if this is how ur gonna react to critisizm ur not gonna make it in the "business"

[sSsflamesSs]

if this is how ur gonna react to critisizm ur not gonna make it in the "business"

Exactly.

[Anonymouse]

Don't mind them they are just kids Sassoun.

Now KILL THIS THREAD! It's festered long enough!

[TVAdict710]

becuz[/b] your fingers are too fat to type? You must either be REALLY fat or a sped who rides the short bus to skool.

u callin him a sped, u cant type urself!

[TVAdict710]

Again i need to correct u why dont you learn? or is it becuz your fingers are too fat to type? You must either be REALLY fat or a sped who rides the short bus to skool.

you're callin him a sped, you cant type yourself!

[Fitty Percent]

Muda xxxxaz wanna play hoe? Bring ya xxxx to me den we can talk!

[sSsflamesSs]

Learn how to speak first.

[ShawTy]

Hey sup guys.. dont mean to interrupt ur conVo.. im new to this site and I keep tryin to put ma pix but it aitn working :( .. so im hopin someoen can help me out with that.. danxx :P

[hyethug05]

Go to www.thearmenianmafia.tk and give it some love

[Anonymouse]

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/threadDoc.jpg

[Fitty Percent]

:( why cant you spell? Gay is spelt G-A-Y not G-H-E-Y your head must be filled with so much fat you cant spell simple three letter words... im so sorry :(

[Anonymouse]

It looks like i've stumbled across an untapped mine of badness. Well you're trying to steer the thread in the right direction but i fear the damage has already been done, its a sinking ship. I vote the captain of it, TittyPercent, should go down with it.

[Fitty Percent]

I have pitty on your fingers please try to hit the F key instead of the T i know its hard but just try :(

[Anonymouse]

Your point is?

[sSsflamesSs]

Pitty Fitty Titty

[Fitty Percent]

Wow sSsflamersSs....thats really original! You must be very creative in school or work!

My point is is that your a fat xxxx who definatley needs to take some time off this website and go on some weight loss program

[Fitty Percent]

Wow sSsflamersSs....thats really original! You must be very creative in school or work....and if you look like anything your avatar is then i pitty on your ass xxxxx.

My point is is that your a fat xxxx who definatley needs to take some time off this website and go on some weight loss program.

[sSsflamesSs]

Pissing off little immature nobodies is so much fun!

And that's so original...insulting my avatar in the hopes of getting through to me, HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I'm gonna go cry in the corner now...*single tear*

[Fitty Percent]

wow you must have a REALLY low self esteem if you hear one negative comment about what you look like and go cry in a corner.

[Anonymouse]

On a more serious note, what is the purpose of you here on the boards, other than your childish demeanor? What have you contributed to the boards? You only seem to be able to post in one or two threads and they are all rap related and you don't even post about rap, nor what makes it special, you offer no defensive arguments. The only thing you have going for you is third grade insults. Aside from all this, can you try to be a bit more productive?

[sSsflamesSs]

wow you must have a REALLY low self esteem if you hear one negative comment about what you look like and go cry in a corner.

Wow, you saw right through me...GOOD JOB!! :D
Wanna be my shrink? I could really use one right now, especially one with your talent.

[Andromida806]

anonymouse.....
And in your post "Titty percent" its Fitty percent, but i will excuse you because i know that your fat fingers must have accedently hit the T key instead of F. [/b]

You say Anonymoog's fingers are fat but it seems that yours are dyslexic, your letters always seem to fall into odd positions making it very difficult to understand. As you can see my absence from these forums will not go unnoticed. I pitty the fitty.... fitty ??? What the hell is that .... Oh the dyslexia thats right. ;)

[bugginurbrain]

OK.......ANONYMOUSE......YOU SAY RAP TAKES NO TALENT. THERE IS MORE TO RAPPING THAN RHYMING A FEW WORDS TOGETHER UNDER A BEAT. TO BE A GOOD RAPPER YOU NEED TO HAVE A UNIQUE STYLE AND ATTITUDE, AND THAT CAN ONLY COME FROM A GOD GIVEN TALENT. YOU ALSO SAID THAT RAPPING SHOULD ONLY BE FOR BLACK PEOPLE, WELL LAST TIME I CHECKED THE CHARTS, THE NUMBER ONE SELLING RAP ARTIST IS A WHITE BOY FROM MICHIGAN. JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT ENJOY THIS CULTURE DOES NOT MEAN YOU SHOULD TRY TO PUT DOWN OTHERS THAT DO. DON'T BE BITTER AT RAP BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE STOLE YOUR LUNCH MONEY WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP AND xxxxED YOUR SISTER. IM DONE, YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER SMART ASS COMMENT YOU WANT, I HAVE MADE MY POINT AND NO MATTER HOW MANY WORDS YOU TAKE OFF THE INTERNET AND PLACE IN YOUR POSTS DEEP DOWN INSIDE YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE A HATER. HAVE A NICE DAY )

[Parkev Grigoryan]

Anonymouse:


You have got to be the biggest poser I have ever met {granted we've never actually Physically met} in my entire existence. In what way are Armenians that rap "mimicing" blacks. So if Armenians are mimicing blacks by rapping it would be safe to say that any armenian with a love for metal/rock is mimicing the metal/rock lifestyle which often times is considered to be weird or tasteless music. It is evident in your messages that you know as much about rap as I know about Quantum Physics, yet you insist on making off the wall suggestions that it is thug music and that it is negative in every regard. That idea is not only false, it's outright idiotic. Rap music is a form of self expression which contrary to your belief is not limited to African Americans. True. they were the pioneers of this beatiful and intricate form of music, but in no way is this form of self expression limited only to African Americans.



A suggestion from one Armenian to another,

don't let your stupidity and ignorance embarrass you any longer, next time you want to express yourself on a topic, I suggest that you do your research, instead of coming out of that sorry excuse of a brain with some dumb xxxx.

sincereley

Parkev

[Anonymouse]

Anonymouse:


You have got to be the biggest poser I have ever met {granted we've never actually Physically met} in my entire existence. In what way are Armenians that rap "mimicing" blacks. So if Armenians are mimicing blacks by rapping it would be safe to say that any armenian with a love for metal/rock is mimicing the metal/rock lifestyle which often times is considered to be weird or tasteless music. It is evident in your messages that you know as much about rap as I know about Quantum Physics, yet you insist on making off the wall suggestions that it is thug music and that it is negative in every regard. That idea is not only false, it's outright idiotic. Rap music is a form of self expression which contrary to your belief is not limited to African Americans. True. they were the pioneers of this beatiful and intricate form of music, but in no way is this form of self expression limited only to African Americans.



A suggestion from one Armenian to another,

don't let your stupidity and ignorance embarrass you any longer, next time you want to express yourself on a topic, I suggest that you do your research, instead of coming out of that sorry excuse of a brain with some dumb xxxx.

sincereley

Parkev

I was hoping someone of your ignorance would come along and try to defend this petty argument.

My position on Armenians and wanting to be blacks goes much deeper than just trying to mimic black "music" ( I wouldn't consider rap music ). On the contrary it is precisely that, the fact that rap is not much music. It takes no talent to be a "talented rap artist". Armenians don't just stop mimicing blacks by the music, but by the way they dress, talk and act and braid their hair. This "thug cultural" xxxx is spreading amongst Armenians like poisonous mushrooms.

Rock as a genre does consist of music, using musical intstruments and actual singing. Rap is not. Rappers program the music on a synthesizer and then rap along, which anybody could do. I can even come up with the lyrics and rhythms to a rap song just like the professional rappers. I never said I am confined to rock, and what makes you assume that I am mimicing rock lifestyle? And if so, that lifestyle is actually closer to civility than being a materialistic pimped up thug wanna be talking in ebonics.

For you to come here, try to defend rap/thug culture by resorting to ad homenim attacks is the stupidest tactic ever employed. You obviously haven't read the entire thread, nor did you prove how rap involves any talent.

The rap thug culture makes you believe people like 2pac are still alive. It makes you buy $250 dollar shoes to improve your "vertical" even though $5 dollar shoes are just as good. It makes you by xxxelry, preferrably a necklace of a dollar sign. It makes you buy a "phat" car. The clothes you wear are larger than your actual size. It makes you talk in stupid ebonics which include words such as "bling bling", "phat", "holla" and other stupid xxxx that's not part of grammatical english. It makes you have delusions of grandeur that youre a pimp, in fact, DA PIMP.

The people who actually write the MUSIC to rap are people you don't even know of who know how to operate drums and computers and generate it. A "talented rap artist" asks them to create a "phat beat" and he raps along to it.

I can't see of any way that rap is superior to any other form of music. You have not tried to prove otherwise, instead you resorted tautalogical ad homenim attacks and useless analogies.

[Anonymouse]

Isn't it funny how all these pseudo individual people in here who are trying to defend rap, can't really defend it, or offer valid reasons as to why it is superior to other forms of music, or much less music at all? Why can't they establish how it takes talent to rap other than "you have to have a unique attitude". I don't see any talent in that. You can say that about everyone.

Instead of trying to prove their case, the defenders of the rap argument resort to personal attacks. That is the only thing to be expected from the rap crew since they dont have much of a mental capacity for anything, and to like rap in the first place and defend it with personal attacks doesn't take much of a brain either.

I rest my case.

[bugginurbrain]

listen AnonyMOUSE, Its true you are a mouse. Your just a redundant moron. We got the point that you dont like rap, but the points your making can be said about rock. We like to wear chains with dollar signs, you like to pierce your xxxxs. We like to wear baggy pants, you like to wear cut up dirty jeans. We like "phat" rides, you like civics. Your points are useless, everything comes down to which music culture you enjoy. You nor anyone else on this planet can change my mind about what to listen to. Stop being so bitter, go see a shrink or something. Your killing everybodies high with your lame ass opinions. Go become a politician maybe then you might get some people to listen to you, but until then go "suck some ass" < talk about dumb ass terminology.

[Anonymouse]

listen AnonyMOUSE, Its true you are a mouse. Your just a redundant moron. We got the point that you dont like rap, but the points your making can be said about rock. We like to wear chains with dollar signs, you like to pierce your xxxxs. We like to wear baggy pants, you like to wear cut up dirty jeans. We like "phat" rides, you like civics. Your points are useless, everything comes down to which music culture you enjoy. You nor anyone else on this planet can change my mind about what to listen to. Stop being so bitter, go see a shrink or something. Your killing everybodies high with your lame ass opinions. Go become a politician maybe then you might get some people to listen to you, but until then go "suck some ass" < talk about dumb ass terminology.

Like I said, redundancy goes both ways. You're making assumptions about me that I adhere to rock culture or piercings. That is untrue and unsubstantiated. You resorting to ad homenim attacks doesn't prove how rap involves talent, and why Armenians are obsessed with rap/thug culture.


You said: "Your points are useless, everything comes down to which music culture you enjoy. "

How are my points useless? You keep jammering that my points are useless because they have to be useless in order for you to feel comfortable with fallacious ideas, like rap is "music". I threw a challenge to anyone in this thread, which if you bothered to read, telling you to prove how rap involves talent or music. These "rappers" can rarely if anytime play any musical instrument, nor have taken any classes for the vocal abilities if they are really singers. Blurting out words doesn't take much talent.

The fact that your response now has resorted to an even more abused version of your earlier invectives and you failing to prove how rap is considered music, shows to me that you can't discuss seriously and therefore you lose. :twisted: :D

[TVAdict710]

i go away for 2 weeks. 2 WEEKS, and look what happens. u bastards got anon typing long ass posts again. now he's never gonna stop. which is why he is my role model.

[bugginurbrain]

ok man, you "win" the arguement, this is probably the only pleasure you have in life anyway. Hip Hop lives on BIATCH!

[Anonymouse]

Yes you just admitted to losing since you can't offer a viable defense for your position.

Whether hip hop lives or not doesn't make your argument valid.

Plenty of stupid xxxx live on and the invalidities follow.

[TVAdict710]

i think that we should end the thread here. with a victor, and, more crudely, a loser.

[SaSSoun]

"can't we all just get along" Rodney King

[Andromida806]

Not that I read every single thread in here, which some were worthless. I came to a conclusion. Rap takes no talent. yet people still listen to it. I myself appreciate the actual 'Hip Hop' which ranged from mid 80's to late 90's. Other than that. The new rap sux and from that point I do agree w/ Anonymoog. So basically Every point Mr. Anonymoog made, was that Rap requires no talent. So for the Anti-Anonymoog's that are sippin on the haterade.... Use the talent of reading and notice, that's all he was trying to say. Rap does not require talent. End of message. ;)

[Mrutik]

I believe the reason for young Armenians turning into rap artist is because our culture doesn’t have that many modern cultural music styles that can relate to young adolescence that are growing up in this society. Raping does take some form of talent since a rapper either needs to have a good memory or some kind of musical ear. Good memory is needed to remember the lines that have been used before, so the repetition doesn’t happen and also to come up with rhymes that can grab the attention of the audience. Musical ear is required because I don’t care how well u can create rhymes if you cant fallow a bit then you cant rap. Therefore I believe some form of talent is required to become a rap artist. As for Armenian turning into black, well that’s totally different subject. We have Armenians that are into rock; we have Armenians that look like Mexican tugs, or rapiz, etc.. It all depends on 3 concepts, society, family and friends. It would be best that we stop with this nonsense criticism of our own people, as individuals we all have the right to choose what we like and who we want to be. Just because you are born Armenian doesn’t mean u have to stay as one.

[Andromida806]

About the music part... Almost anyone can figure out the tempo of a good rap when the beat is provided and in most cases with the rap in the last 3 years.... the rappers dont have to worry about a beat cuz its provided for them. 2) A rapper does not need to memorize anything. They need to come up with their own material, but it seems now a days they find some chorus line to go by while they have some whack ass verses where they're quoting other rappers half the time anyways.and 3) you just proved a major fact about armenians... When criticizing others, you automatically think " oh.. hes a rocker, so then hes a punk." "oh.. he wears baggy clothes, so then he wants to be mexican." " oh... he wears a visor, he wants to be black." I think its just you people worry too much about other people and what they got and what they do. Not up front, but if you think about it, why the hell are you so worried how they dress, cuz they're armenian ? Then do you feel the same way about a white guy ? or an Asian, or whatever . The reason I say you people is cuz most, not all, but most, are stuck in the hater mode which causes you to analyze someone just because they want to be unique or should i say different. So because you can't seem to come up with your own style of being yourself, you seem to have to criticize others because you cant seem create your own style for yourself that works for you.

[TVAdict710]

nooooo! i said end it, not continue!!

[sSsflamesSs]

YEA, END IT, DAMNIT!!!

[Anonymouse]

I believe the reason for young Armenians turning into rap artist is because our culture doesn’t have that many modern cultural music styles that can relate to young adolescence that are growing up in this society. Raping does take some form of talent since a rapper either needs to have a good memory or some kind of musical ear. Good memory is needed to remember the lines that have been used before, so the repetition doesn’t happen and also to come up with rhymes that can grab the attention of the audience. Musical ear is required because I don’t care how well u can create rhymes if you cant fallow a bit then you cant rap. Therefore I believe some form of talent is required to become a rap artist. As for Armenian turning into black, well that’s totally different subject. We have Armenians that are into rock; we have Armenians that look like Mexican tugs, or rapiz, etc.. It all depends on 3 concepts, society, family and friends. It would be best that we stop with this nonsense criticism of our own people, as individuals we all have the right to choose what we like and who we want to be. Just because you are born Armenian doesn’t mean u have to stay as one.

Your speech is riddled with mistakes and you advocate not being Armenian? Hey Armenian isn't just culture its an ethnicity. You have no choice you are born into it. TO deny yourself is to deny your existence. To pretend to be black or thug is but a lie and a nice and thorough illusion.

I dont want to get into the whole culture ethnicity debate here simply because youre the type that would support the destruction of our commonfolk and probably don't even remember April 24th. Yep them Turks were right you know, they didn't have to finish Armenians, we do it to ourselves.

Wise words coming from a person of your calibre on the moral high ground. Oh I can feel the wisdom in this thread.

I hope you get mauled by tigers.

[TVAdict710]

no, dummy, end it means "stop", "finish", "discontinue", "cease", "desist", "die", "lick balls", and other such words.

[fIReBuRntInHeLL]

ACTUALLY ROCK MUSIC WAS DISCOVERED IN GERMANY, IN THE CITY NAMED COLONIA, SO BLACKS DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ROCK. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: THE ROCL MUSIC STARTED FROM GERMAN MUSIC STUDENT. I KNOW THIS FOR SURE COS I DID MUSIC HISTORY VERY WELL! ..............SHARUNAKEK IRAR MIS UTELE, HYERI MOT LAVA STATSVUM. :evil: :evil: :evil:

[sSsflamesSs]

SHARUNAKEK IRAR MIS UTELE, HYERI MOT LAVA STATSVUM. :evil: :evil: :evil: [/b]

Truer words were never spoken. :D :D :D

[spiral]

“Just because you are born Armenian doesn’t mean u have to stay as one.”


Whattt the helll was that???!

How lame can u get chica?

I get annoyed by Armenians who are constantly trying to be “less” Armenian, or when they label people as “fobs”.

So a “Fob” is a word used by Armenians to describe or label someone as “too Armenian” and so, they look down upon this “Fob”. Which leaves me to think, that you’re not too comfortable or fond of your identity, almost…ashamed.


I don’t see any other people(s) who are trying to disguise, hide, or run from their Culturual/Ethnic Identity.

How pathetic is it that you’re trying to diminish within you all that represents your culture, and looking down or laughing upon those who spur it.
All people/cultures have something positive to offer. Why do you shun yours?

Conformity to cultures has always been something to avoid, struggle and weather against, since it diminishes the cultures visibility, depth and solidarity. However people like you, like Anonymouse said “would support the destruction of our common folk”

And another thing about the whole April 24th thing, the only reason 70% of teens or “young adults” even show-up to April 24th remembrance events is to either hook-up, or gawk at the “fine guys/girls”. Same reason they alllll suddenly show-up at church for Easter.

P.S everything I wrote here was not completely directed to Mrutik.
So, don’t have a hissy-fit. =)

:D

[Anonymouse]

Truly a sad fate we suffer.

Armenian youth these days, such idiots.

Self hating little lemmings who would rather wanna be thugs or pimpettes or what not than be themselves.

How sad.

If you are going to be a self hating Armenian and be condescending towards those of us that preserve this culture, then you might as well not come to Armenian club. Pack your bags and go to Blackplanet.com and be wit you black brothas and sistas. There is no room here on these forums for moronic little pre pubescent teens who still can't figure out the trick of masturbation and are nothing but MTV xxxxxs.

Piss off and die please.

[Andromida806]

*Throws his little arms over Mr. Anonymoog's and Spiral's shoulders and begins to dance*

[TVAdict710]

*poos*

[Anonymouse]

Seriously, these turds piss me off. So insignificant and they come here thinking they matter. This forum is only for people who are intelligent, not little pre pubescent teens, who can't do much on computers except log on AOL or this crap.

[Anonymouse]

TVaddict, that black person in your avatar looks like a big poo with eyes and a nose and a mouth.

I think there should be a comic after you and perhaps, a movie based off the comic. Hehehe.

[SaSSoun]

i'm a fob. and, yes, I do want a cookie. :twisted:

[TVAdict710]

TVaddict, that black person in your avatar looks like a big poo with eyes and a nose and a mouth.

I think there should be a comic after you and perhaps, a movie based off the comic. Hehehe.

yea i wish. then i could get enough money to become white so i can reap the benefits that society holds for honkey

[MovezLang]

U guys talked about Rap and got into this whole conteversy !

let's go back to RAP....
my man One2 EX-member of PENTAGON...wich the cd is actually still in the stores!

is coming otu with an solo album with featurings with Big syk(outlaw) ace and many more!

Some armenian record label is about to born down LA and it's gonna get big...we have many real talented rapper down here in our armenian comunity!
it's not about being black no mroe WAKE UP MOTHERxxxxERS!

i still see osme dumb armos calling each other niggas!!
man call each other ARMO or soemthing...all we do is look stupid!!

someone wa stalking about "why doesnt armenian music get big" we do have some good musicians"...hopefuly one day the world would actually recognize it...

well all im saying is that if an armenian artist (raper , singer , dancer)...tries to do anything....the other amrenians make fun of him..
if even our own peple dont believe in us! why would the rets of the world even bother to!
well i talked anough...all ims aying is that in a couple of years you guys will finally change your mind about this whole rapping thing
Holla !

[xBaron Dants]

someone wa stalking about "why doesnt armenian music get big" we do have some good musicians"...hopefuly one day the world would actually recognize it...

well all im saying is that if an armenian artist (raper , singer , dancer)...tries to do anything....the other amrenians make fun of him..
if even our own peple dont believe in us! why would the rets of the world even bother to!

You claim that with an armenian "thug" rapping in english, ARMENIAN MUSIC will be recognized throughout the world? If an armenian youth at least tried to do something ARMENIAN, i'd be ready to encourage it as armenian music. If "twinz" or whatever considers themselves in the field of armenian music with their english lyrics and keyboard music, then armenian music has reached an all-time low.

System of a Down for instance, is composed of armenian musicians. Will I consider "toxicity" or "aerials" as armenian music? Of course not.

[Anonymouse]

U guys talked about Rap and got into this whole conteversy !

let's go back to RAP....
my man One2 EX-member of PENTAGON...wich the cd is actually still in the stores!!

ONE 2? That's his name? ONE 2 BUCKLE MY SHOE. THREE 4 KNOCK AT THE DOOR. FIVE 6 PICK UP STICKS. SEVEN 8 LOCK THE GATE. NINE 10 A BIG FAT HEN. OMG IM A RAPPER I NEED A CD ON THE SHELVES RIGHT NOW!

is coming otu with an solo album with featurings with Big syk(outlaw) ace and many more!


A solo album? Why mention the other names if its solo. Lastly, you rap culture freaks are the worst at spelling and grammatical errors. Jesus H. xxxxing Christ on a crutch you people are lame.

Some armenian record label is about to born down LA and it's gonna get big...we have many real talented rapper down here in our armenian comunity!
it's not about being black no mroe WAKE UP MOTHERxxxxERS!

Really then what's it about? If its not about being black what the HELL is it about? The whole urban thug rap culture xxxx is a reflection of black people, no one else. To try to mimic that lifestyle is nothing but trying to be what blacks are, ghetto illiterate crime ridden thugs. For Armenians to strive to those low ends shows a degeneration in our culture. Instaed of trying to reach towards higher levels of creativity we try to mimic black culture. You're not much different than the Armenian rabies fools who import Turkish and Arabic music and call it Armenian. When a certain people belonging to a certain cutlure, cannot create culture anymore and must rely on others, that shows nothing else other than cultural degeneration. Youre lame. I would castrate all of you.


i still see osme dumb armos calling each other niggas!!
man call each other ARMO or soemthing...all we do is look stupid!!!

Really? We look stupid? WOW! Who would ever think of such a thing?

someone wa stalking about "why doesnt armenian music get big" we do have some good musicians"...hopefuly one day the world would actually recognize it... !!!

Rap is not Armenian music and the "bigness" of music only reflects the popularity and numbers of the people or culture. Latin music is big because Latinos are alot of people in the world. "American music" be it hip hop, or pop or any of the other xxxx are big because America is a big influence around the world. Armenian music is a dying art because like I say Armenians worldwide are lowering in numbers, and so with that goes any incentive to keep culture and create it, instead fools like you resort to stupid things like "RAP". I bet you can't even play any musical instrument, much less sing.

well all im saying is that if an armenian artist (raper , singer , dancer)...tries to do anything....the other amrenians make fun of him..
if even our own peple dont believe in us! why would the rets of the world even bother to!
well i talked anough...all ims aying is that in a couple of years you guys will finally change your mind about this whole rapping thing
Holla !

Shut up!

[MovezLang]

you are so lame !!

singing armen's song that song is gay!!

Armen cant rap homie!!

if one2 wnated to...that poor guy will be quitting rap right now!!

and anwyays...! so what you saying is...ONLY BLACK PEOPLE COULD RAP!!

xxxx more i talk to people like you more i understand why the world hates armenians!!

becuz you guys dont dont wanna come out of your box!!

the best raper right now is EMINEM!
he's white...dotn tell me tupac or bone thgs i know that's what you put in your car crusing on glenoaks but please let's try to keep it civilised here! like normal people!

i dont know man!

we cant comunicate with people like you...
there is no point in doing that!!

anyways stay in your own world homie!

[Anonymouse]

Black people talk in ebonics. Ebonics is not an officially recognized language. You cannot talk in ebonics during speech class, or when reciting a play such as Death of a Salesman ( unless you're doing the ghetto version of the play which Crenshaw High does ).

Ebonics is not a correct form of writing. To write in ebonics would get any high school student an F. In your job or anywhere there is a certain guideline, a correct grammatical form of English that everyone adheres to.

Black people, thugs, rappers, wanna be black people, whatever and however you want to be hyphenated, by attempting to speak like that you only show your stupidity. The world doesn't revolve around incorrect dialects and spelling errors. Just because you think its "cool" doesn't make so.

What so you say is the cause of why the world hates Armenians? When did the "world hate Armenians"? I never heard of that. Where did you hear the whole world say that? In any event, youre about as stupid as Titty Percent, and the other thuggish little vermin that have come and gone in these forums. You are all a disgrace to our Armenian heritage and if any of your ancestors were alive today they would probably go back in their caskets and nail it from the inside when they see how horrible you genetic defects have turned out. You're despicable.

[xBaron Dants]

xxxx more i talk to people like you more i understand why the world hates armenians!!

becuz you guys dont dont wanna come out of your box!!

[...]

anyways stay in your own world homie!

First off, I was unaware, like anon, that the world hates us. Funny how ppl like us, who haven't "gotten out of our boxes" have never received any hate from strangers while you, totally "out of your box" have even reached the stage of claiming the whole world hates armenians.

Now, about the "box". You make some pretty wrong statements. By accusing anon. and ppl like him (in this case, that would include me) to not being open to other music, you are claiming that you are. Tell me this, what genres of music do you listen to (besides the great "music" that is rap)? Are you really as open to different styles of music?

Also, you claim that armenians who claim that armenians shouldn't rap are once again, stuck "in their own world". Should we all then encourage armenian rappers as representatives of our culture? In your point of view, "rappin' armen" or "thuggin partoghomeus" or wtv are in the same field as Khachatur Avedissian, Tatoul Altounian, Djivan Gasparyan or Arno Babadjanian(the list goes on)?

What's ironic is, I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to tell me who most of these armenian geniuses are. Which raises my other point. If I am "stuck in my box" for not knowing about rap, how far away are you from your box if, chances are, you don't even know the greatest musicians of your OWN culture, while being able to recite all of tupac's songs by heart (though I admit, that's not too hard because of the limited vocabulary)?

PS. If miraculously, you do know the armenian artists mentioned above, please find other "thuggin armos" who also do.

[MovezLang]

Dont get me rong dude...
im not saying you are stuck in a box cuz of rap....im saying cuz your racism...it doesnt go to anyone...if if you feel concened then you must be in that "box"

and anwyays..noen really got what i was trying to say...
all i wanted to say is that when an armenian tries to do soemthing good in his life...why do most of ya'll hate on him instead of support his ass??

if someone is talentend in rap...or in music...why do you guys have to say it's a black music only "he's adiscrease for armenians" and stuff like that...why dont you guys just supposrt him?

and...i went far saying the world hates armenains...
IM ARMENIAN MYSELF! it just pisses me off seeing all this...

i dont know man i wont post in here no more...im not here to start fights with everyone and throw jamos at maple park just trying to make my point here

if yo gusy dont wanna listen and hate like anonymous...then im out!

[xBaron Dants]

OK, the word "racist" is always blown waaaaaaay out of proportion. There is nothing racist about me saying that rap music is useless. If you claim that there is, you're just stating that rap does indeed belong to a race.

Believe it or not, I did understand what you were trying to say. What you don't understand about what I'm trying to say is that I won't blindly support something as armenian just because an armenian is doing it.

Also, I will never support an armenian rapper because they all pretend to be what they aren't (like most rappers anyways). When an armenian goes on talking about "homies", "thugs" "ghetto life" and "niggas", it truly is pathetic, considering the fact that most of them are raised in a comfortable suburbian life anyways. Do people even know what a ghetto is? Harlem was/is a ghetto for black people, Warsaw was a ghetto for the xxxs during the holocaust. Where's the armenian ghetto? the tough streets of glendale? Why go on and on about a NON-EXISTANT reality (for most armenians) that is in fact home of health, criminal and economic problems?

[Anonymouse]

The fact is, be yourself, don't pretend.

As long as you try and aspire to be something you aren't, I will be there to tell you how it is. Armenians should act like themselves, not like they are black.

[Andromida806]

if someone is talentend in rap...or in music...why do you guys have to say it's a black music only


In Germany Rap music is actually labeled as "Black Musik".... If you go to a music store you will actually see a "Black Musik" section.

[Anonymouse]

Rap and the beats to it reflect something out of the jungle. Black people come from the jungles of Africa and the culture they have produced reflects that. If you listen to African tribal music they are full of beats and bangings.

[surferarmo]

OK, what started this whole life long thread is when someone asked, "what makes rap so good?" I would like to know. I think it sucks. I could make a flow right now, and make some beats on my comp with this composer program. Its bullxxxx. Can anyone answer the original question: Why is rap good, and how does it require skill?

[MovezLang]

Hey guys...

i really liked what you guys said...

ok listen...if those dumb armos claiming to be thugs or gangsters dont make it in the music industry...there is a reason...THE ONE THAT YOU GUYS JUST STATED!!!!

you gusy are right...dont claim what you are not!!

Now my friend one2 like i said...is bringing his own kind of music...it's rap...but in his own style...None do it his way...he doesnt talk about ghettos and he doesnt talk about gangsters!

he's smart enough to not do that kinda xxxx...

now im really sorry if i snapped at you guys...

And for the guy who was talking about black musik in germany...
i dont know what the hell you talking about...maybe you grew up in the villages there...
i was born and raised in france...In the store it has a section for rap!!!

and it's huge rap oevr tehre is very big and popular...
for those who know a lil bit about rap...you gusy might know RZA he's one of the main rappers in the WU TANG!

he recently released an album called THE WORLD ACORDING TO RZA!

in wich he has songs with french , german , sweedish , dutch...rappers...and many mor ei forgot... one of the rappers form germany is Armenian!

all im saying the world changes...i dont think that people should see rap as a balck music...

just like blues and rock n'roll black music started that xxxx...but who was the king??? ELVIS?? who has ever said "why is he tryingt o be black?"

well anyways i respect the way you gusy think also...but well im telling if im supporting my friend it's not cuz he's armenian...it's becuz he really knows what he's doing...he's armenian too and he's not trying to be black...

he doesnt use Nigga and stuff like that in his lyrics...

well im out!

[xBaron Dants]

What I would reaaaaaally love to have is lyrics to his songs.

But still, rap is not part of our culture, and I will not be able to support it as armenian music.

[Anonymouse]

http://www.braball.com/Images/BB1001.jpg

All Armenian rappers should be squished with this.

[sSsflamesSs]

HAHAHAHA

Do I have the priviledge of contributing to that ball??

[Andromida806]

uhuhh huhhuhuhu huhh She said ball

[Anonymouse]

Yes flames please contribute to the braw.

You can add by mailing it to me or dropping it off personally. :twisted: :D

[surferarmo]

i wish that lady was in more clothes than she already is.

[Anonymouse]

I wish a gun came out of no where and blew her head off, and then maybe we can get a hot chick right there....NUDE hot chick.

[surferarmo]

even better

[Andromida806]

SHOOT THE FUGLY LADY !!!! :twisted:

[Anonymouse]

Perform a lobotomy first then shoot her.

BUT shoot her with my bop gun!

[jahannam]

Yes flames please contribute to the braw.

You can add by mailing it to me or dropping it off personally. :twisted: :D

Anon... can you invite over a friend and I"ll join flames dropping off braws?
thanx

[Anonymouse]

Oh sure dear, you can also personally drop off your braw to me that way it will be more "official", ofcourse I would have to disagree on inviting a friend, it would be just you and flames and moi. :twisted:

[jahannam]

well... I was totally gonna offer that... but I was afraid armos here are gonna start calling me a lesbian...
I've been proving lately that most people don't seem to find a difference between threesome fans and homosexuality...lol
I wonder if i'm gonna get kicked outa here for being this open about this stuff!
but anyways :twisted: :twisted: life goes on....

[Anonymouse]

Let me clear the misconception for you.

Homosexuality between men = bad.

Homosexuality between lovely attractive women = good.

The initial is proscribed, the latter is prescribed.

[jahannam]

seriously... whatsup with that?
I think i wanna start a new thread...
why is it enjoyable watching girls making out(yes guys AND girls like it)?
yet it's grosse watching male figures doing the same thing?

[Anonymouse]

Spare the thread.

That's because women are the icon of sexuality. Their beauty and curve and presence and touch is simply aesthetic and soothing. Men are brawny and squared and nasty. That is the reason.

[jahannam]

what about
2 fat n hairy chics
Vs.
2 HOT guys with tanned and toned bods?

[Anonymouse]

How about ghosts instead?

[jahannam]

naa.. ghosts don't turn me on...

[Anonymouse]

They either have to be 2 attractive or decent looking girls, or nothing at all basically.