Djivan Gasparyan

[xBaron Dants]

For anybody who enjoys the sound of the duduk, Djivan Gasparyan's albums are a must.
He might just be the world's most famous Armenian artist. He's on the soundtrack of "Gladiator", Denzel Washington's "The Siege" and a few other movies. He's collaborated with Michael Brook, Turkish musician Erkan Oglur (he held a concert in Istambul earlier this year), guitarist Jesse Cook and French-Armenian musician Armen Chakmakian.

His works with Chakmakian and the one with Cook (Incantation) are amazing. And you should all definitely check out Armenian Lyric Melodies and Dances, by the Djivan Gasparyan trio.

http://www.cyberrex.org/ringring/2002/img/djivan%2001.jpg

[HyeJinx1984]

I actually went to highschool with his grandson (also named Jivan, minus the D) and he was telling me about how his family and Hans Zimmer (composer on Gladiator) had become very close. Apparently Hans took a great deal of interest in the dadook.

I'm gonna sound like a bad Armo now, but what's the difference between a dadook and a flute? Is Dadook just the Armenian word for Flute or is actually a different instrument?

[Emil]

I actually went to highschool with his grandson (also named Jivan, minus the D) and he was telling me about how his family and Hans Zimmer (composer on Gladiator) had become very close. Apparently Hans took a great deal of interest in the dadook.

I'm gonna sound like a bad Armo now, but what's the difference between a dadook and a flute? Is Dadook just the Armenian word for Flute or is actually a different instrument?

I think the major difference is the duduk is made from the wood of an apricot tree. Am I right?

[HyeJinx1984]

I think the major difference is the duduk is made from the wood of an apricot tree. Am I right?

Ah.. yes.. I knew that. I know what a DUDUK is me of.. I was wondering what a DADOOK was made of...

Kinda like how Que'ran means "Love for all gods children" but Koran means "Eternal servitude of a brainwashed mind"

I love translating stuff :)

[xBaron Dants]

The sound of the duduk is COMPLETEEELY different. It doesn't have that wussy flute thing going on. :D

And, you can't ever be famous off the flute. ;)

[dusken]

And, you can't ever be famous off the flute.

Two words: Ian Anderson.

[xBaron Dants]

Two words: Ian Anderson.

Ian who?



:laugh:

[ardenik]

Two words: Ian Anderson.
nice one.... four more:

Eric Dolphy
Joe Farrell

[ardenik]

I know what a DUDUK is me of.. I was wondering what a DADOOK was made of...

dadook is just an unusual way of spelling duduk.. its the same thing.

[xBaron Dants]

nice one.... four more:

Eric Dolphy
Joe Farrell

Pff! All overrated people...

[ardenik]

Pff! All overrated people...
with ALL due respect, and more, for djivan gasparyan... because i know his duduk playing could do the same to those guys.. but if djivan heard one of joe farrell's flute solos, which im sure he has, his jaw would hit the floor.... :eek:

[Darorinag]

I have 2 CDs by Djivan Gasparyan. I also bought the Gladiator soundtrack just because it featured the duduk. :D

It's great. :)

[xBaron Dants]

with ALL due respect, and more, for djivan gasparyan... because i know his duduk playing could do the same to those guys.. but if djivan heard one of joe farrell's flute solos, which im sure he has, his jaw would hit the floor.... :eek:

Yes..my jaw has also dropped....from all that yawning.

[Darorinag]

nice one.... four more:

Eric Dolphy
Joe Farrell
Excuse me, but 4 more? :confused:

[sleuth]

I think the major difference is the duduk is made from the wood of an apricot tree. Am I right?

Bulgarians also use DUDUK,they call it DIUDIUK(Bulgarian folk musical instrument).IT's made from ash-tree, cornet tree, sycamore or cherrytree. DIUDIUK and DUDUK the same musical instruments.

[sleuth]

What about Andreas Vollenweider and his new album <Cosmopoly>? absolutely astonishing.Music for the soul.

His opinion about Givan:

*And you did have faith, undoubdtedly, at least from what we hear on the album. But now, please, could you sketch a little portrait of your most famous guests: starting from the great Djivan Gasparyan...

"Oh, the "old" Djivan: what an extraordinary musician! I had met him in person many years ago, at the times of his first "official" recording. He played "duduk" (the small Armenian flute made in cherry-wood briar) with an intensity that was spasmodic to say the least, and he managed to draw from it emotions at the pure state, sounds that are very near to the human voice: a total ecstasy, indeed! At the end of the concert I went to meet him in person, and there I discovered that the man was, if possible, even greater and more charming than the musician. A real miracle in flesh and bones!".

[ardenik]

Eric Dolphy (1928-64) alto sax, bass clarinet & flute
http://guitar-primer.com/PIZ/Eric_Dolphy.jpg http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200_web/drp000/p006/p00684y6h45.jpg

Joe Farrell (1937-86) flute, tenor sax & soprano sax
http://www.congahead.com/Classic_Shots/gallery08/image/666_003_1.jpg http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200_web/drp000/p006/p00654x7tl1.jpg

[ardenik]

Excuse me, but 4 more? :confused:
4 more words.... cuz initially, dusken said: "Two words: Ian Anderson"

Yes..my jaw has also dropped....from all that yawning.
perhaps if u pulled ur head out of your..... *ahem*, out of the ground.... & listened to Ian Anderson on Jethro Tull albums, or Joe Farrell, or Eric Dolphy, u would find urself lacking the ignorance to make such a comment.

[sleuth]

70 years old Djivan Rocks:

Djivan Gasparian and Michael Brook: <BLACK ROCK>


http://www.mybestlife.com/eng_soul/gasparian21.JPG

[xBaron Dants]

perhaps if u pulled ur head out of your..... *ahem*, out of the ground.... & listened to Ian Anderson on Jethro Tull albums, or Joe Farrell, or Eric Dolphy, u would find urself lacking the ignorance to make such a comment.

hehe...but if I actually listened to them, I couldn't make those comments that get you all riled up. :laugh:

[ardenik]

hehe...but if I actually listened to them, I couldn't make those comments that get you all riled up. :laugh:
not that get me riled up... that make me remind u, with the best of intentions, of how clueless & ignorant u seem when u say such things..

its for ur own good :D

[xBaron Dants]

not that get me riled up... that make me remind u, with the best of intentions, of how clueless & ignorant u seem when u say such things..

its for ur own good :D

Well, I appreciate the effort...but I'm still somewhat sceptical over any musical advice that a man who enjoys Paul Baghdadlian can give me.

[ardenik]

Well, I appreciate the effort...but I'm still somewhat sceptical over any musical advice that a man who enjoys Paul Baghdadlian can give me.
LOOOLLLLL forget about paul baghdadlian. he's just an armenian pop singer that i like & i like his songs.... but these guys we're talking about here can reach into their pockets & pull out 18 paul baghdadlians along with some spare change & a few little lint balls.

[Darorinag]

Well, I appreciate the effort...but I'm still somewhat sceptical over any musical advice that a man who enjoys Paul Baghdadlian can give me.
Ahahaha... :laugh: :laugh:

[ardenik]

LOOOLLLLL forget about paul baghdadlian. he's just an armenian pop singer that i like & i like his songs.... but these guys we're talking about here can reach into their pockets & pull out 18 paul baghdadlians along with some spare change & a few little lint balls.
thats including Djivan Gasparyan, in case u were wondering

[HyeJinx1984]

I'm trying to think of something to add to the conversation... but besides saying I know his grandson and having spelled Daduk wrong all these years I have nothing to add... EXCEPT A LIMRIC!!!!!!!

Oh, there once was a man by the name of Jivan,
He was an Armenian, but born in Iran.

Oh how he wished to be able to play that daduk,
as well as that other Jivan who was busy reading a book.

So he interupted Jivan and said "Yo fo', whas' happenin' Dawg?"
looking up from his book, Jivan responded "Oh nothing, just sitting beside this log"

The younger Jivan look about, then raised a brow "A log?"
The older rolled his eyes and shrugged, whispering "It's the only thing that rhymes with 'Dawg'"

Damn... that wasn't even funny. Better judgement is telling me to delete that bull**** limric of mine. But I rarely listen to better judgement...

[xBaron Dants]

But Jivan wasn't born in Iran, he was born in Armenia..... :crying:

[HyeJinx1984]

Ahem, you aparently did not follow my very sophistactingly complex storyline very well... you see there were two Jivans, the original and one who wanted to learn the daduk who was from Iran. It's a very stupid story though, so don't bother yourself with it.

[ardenik]

(..) and having spelled Daduk wrong all these years (...)
ummm.... ure still spelling it wrong, buddy...

duduk...
or doudouk, ive seen... but daduk? no.. i dont think so.. lol

[HyeJinx1984]

I love how we as a people can't decide on whether the name is Hosep, Hovsep or Ovsep (Seen all three spellings) but we have a definate spelling of the word Duduk. Well I will be rebelous and just say it's spelled Dudbirewok with a silent B, I, R, E, and W....... so there! *sticks out tongue*

[Tres Bien]

Why ru trying to complicate things? Mishd Duduk e yeghel ev Dudukel kmna

[ardenik]

I love how we as a people can't decide on whether the name is Hosep, Hovsep or Ovsep (Seen all three spellings) but we have a definate spelling of the word Duduk. Well I will be rebelous and just say it's spelled Dudbirewok with a silent B, I, R, E, and W....... so there! *sticks out tongue*
LOOLL fine!! :laugh: ure too funny... :)

btw... its DUDUK... & its HOVSEP!!!

(which tard spells it "Hosep", or "Ovsep"??? :confused: )

[dusken]

Actually, I believe they are all correct in a sense. "Hosep" is probably an older pronounciation. The name is the translation of "Joseph" which has no "V".

[HyeJinx1984]

(which tard spells it "Hosep", or "Ovsep"??? :confused: )

Some kid a my school. Was gonna scan a picture out of the year book and type "this guy" but decided it's kinda immoral to put someone elses picture up on the web to make fun of them with out even telling them about it... see what a nice guy I am? That and my face is on my avatar so if he found out he'd probably kick my ass.

[ardenik]

Some kid a my school. Was gonna scan a picture out of the year book and type "this guy" but decided it's kinda immoral to put someone elses picture up on the web to make fun of them with out even telling them about it... see what a nice guy I am? That and my face is on my avatar so if he found out he'd probably kick my ass.

hehehe yea u probably shouldnt do that, ill take ur word for it, dont worry...
its unusual tho, ive never seen it spelled that way.. altho ure totally right, dusk, hovsep is the translation of joseph.

[HyeJinx1984]

To be honest, it's the only time I've ever seen it spelled that way... I don't think anyone else has it spelled that way. Whatever, he was retarded.

[xBaron Dants]

But why daduk? It's pronouned DUDUK. I still don't see why daduk would be an option. Doodook yes....doudouk ok....but daduk? It's just wrong man.

[HyeJinx1984]

You say Tamato, I say Rebar =P what's your point?

[xBaron Dants]

My point is still the same: the word is DUDUK. We are Armenians, it's an Armenian word. Therefore we know how to pronounce it.

[HyeJinx1984]

My point is still the same: the word is DUDUK. We are Armenians, it's an Armenian word. Therefore we know how to pronounce it.


.........That.... that hurt man... :crying: I don't think I could forgive you for that one... got me right in the jigar... the jigare?.. the jegere? Oh how the xxxx do you spell liver?!?!?? This language is so annoying sometimes with all the dadooks and ovseps and soos minas...

[xBaron Dants]

Well, I didn't mean to make it personal, but DAMN IT, YOU LEFT ME NO CHOICE.

And Mesrob Mashdots found quite an innovative way to get rid of those typing problems...

[HyeJinx1984]

You just hate me cause I'm Armeanian *sticks out tongue*

[xBaron Dants]

You just hate me cause I'm Armeanian *sticks out tongue*

Are you rewriting the word "Armenian" too now?

Some nerve you have..

[HyeJinx1984]

You're just... ugh... Hmm... I think we're done playing this game now. I really like the Gladiator soundtrack :)

[joint1]

You say Tamato, I say Rebar =P what's your point?
IT IS DUDUK OK SO please stoop the noonsense okay

[HyeJinx1984]

Wow, this thread came back outta no where. But I'm down with J Gassy, he's my fave.. just got "Ask me no questions" gotta be honest though, the ONLY thing that sorta bugs me about his music... you honestly can't tell one track on the cd from the other, it's like just one long track.

[sad_eyes]

I like his apricots from eden.

[HyeJinx1984]

As great as he is solo, I'd really like to hear a song with lyrics and other instruments playing in the background to give it more fullness.

[sad_eyes]

Yeah, I guess that is true. :)

[joint1]

You're just... ugh... Hmm... I think we're done playing this game now. I really like the Gladiator soundtrack :)
amena lavna gladiator. honestly that is so far the best and also
the passion of the christ.

[HyeJinx1984]

Was a duduk used in The Passion?

[spiral]

From what I remember, yes.

[HyeJinx1984]

Wow, I didn't notice. Thanks for the headsup.

UPDATE: I just searched google for "the passion" and "duduk"... turns out there were two people playing the duduk on the soundtrack, one was Levon Minnassian and the other was Chris Bleth... the second one surprised me a bit cause I didn't think non-Armenians bothered learning that insturment.