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dikranjohn
08-28-2004, 06:42 AM
Photo Story by: Ruben Mangasaryan
From the streets Lida collects whatever she can find to burn in her stove. And, as plastic bags are most of all scattered in the streets of Bagratashen, polyethylene becomes the main fuel. Lida Gadyan, 39, is a refugee from Baku, where she worked as a dishwasher in a canteen. This year she has moved from a wagon, where she used to live, to an apartment recently built in the Bagratashen's district constructed especially for refugees. She can't remember when she moved to that apartment like she can't remember when she escaped from Baku, when she found herself in Stepanakert, when she got married, when she bore children and when she moved to Bagratashen. She doesn't suffer from amnesia, she's just lost the sense of time. She knows for sure, however, that she gave birth to eight children. In the '90s Lida's husband left her and together with her son and mother she came to this village. Across the river, Georgia can be seen from Bagratashen. The Azeri village Sadakhlo is located there and the popular Sadakhlo market, which functions on both sides of the border. Traders from both countries sell everything from food products to car tires. Prostitutes sell their bodies as well.See More (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dikran.yegye/news-Tragic%20family.htm)

Please don't only read this articale and see the images post your view/ opinion. When i saw the images I was completely shocked and wondered how many families live under the same condition. You may want to print the images/articale and show it to your community leaders, priest or charities that are operating in Armenia to help these people out.

Thanks you

Sally
08-28-2004, 11:34 AM
dikranjohn i saw the pictures and now i am really shocked now. I can't find any words to say.... We MUST help to these children and provide them a good, healthy life. Thank you for posting this news... I am sure that our community leaders do something when we wrote to them... Thanks again.

hyebruin
08-28-2004, 11:54 AM
that is sad...no words can sum up all the emotions...

sad_eyes
08-28-2004, 12:13 PM
no child, no adult should live that kind of life...it isnt right.

dikranjohn
08-28-2004, 02:55 PM
if you have been shocked by what you have seen so far. Please visit this website oneworld (http://www.oneworld.am/) and enter photojournalism section and click on the image in the middle of the screen, Please be patient while loading the page it’s worth the waiting.

Thanks

angelik22
08-28-2004, 07:23 PM
to see those beautiful armenian eyes looking at you makes you feel sooo awful, why do those innocent children have to live in such poverty? God, I dont know, those images are burnt into my had now... so hard to look at!

Tres Bien
08-29-2004, 08:55 AM
Please don't only read this articale and see the images post your view/ opinion. When i saw the images I was completely shocked and wondered how many families live under the same condition. You may want to print the images/articale and show it to your community leaders, priest or charities that are operating in Armenia to help these people out


<No> Not many do live under these cirumstances such as we see in the pictures on the website

and there are already numerous helporganizations dealing with these issues in armenia today. Armenian is very poor indeed. In yerevan in general (or actually anywhere in armenia) you cant see it from the outside as people tend to dress well, at least those who gets some wage from their jobs,they spend it so they will look good in public and spend it on material stuff...oh well :rolleyes:

Help is already there, its up for the people there to help themselves too. People get money buit many dont know how to spent it.

I guess its up to us in other countries who must help them organize-social welfare- so on...

dikranjohn
08-30-2004, 01:49 AM
Interseting Dr. Spurkian Leaving Armenia (http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg92437.html)

to be continued……….

dikranjohn
09-17-2004, 12:14 PM
Photo Story by: Ruben Mangasaryan
From the streets Lida collects whatever she can find to burn in her stove. And, as plastic bags are most of all scattered in the streets of Bagratashen, polyethylene becomes the main fuel. Lida Gadyan, 39, is a refugee from Baku, where she worked as a dishwasher in a canteen. This year she has moved from a wagon, where she used to live, to an apartment recently built in the Bagratashen's district constructed especially for refugees. She can't remember when she moved to that apartment like she can't remember when she escaped from Baku, when she found herself in Stepanakert, when she got married, when she bore children and when she moved to Bagratashen. She doesn't suffer from amnesia, she's just lost the sense of time. She knows for sure, however, that she gave birth to eight children. In the '90s Lida's husband left her and together with her son and mother she came to this village. Across the river, Georgia can be seen from Bagratashen. The Azeri village Sadakhlo is located there and the popular Sadakhlo market, which functions on both sides of the border. Traders from both countries sell everything from food products to car tires. Prostitutes sell their bodies as well.See More (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dikran.yegye/news-Tragic%20family.htm)

Please don't only read this articale and see the images post your view/ opinion. When i saw the images I was completely shocked and wondered how many families live under the same condition. You may want to print the images/articale and show it to your community leaders, priest or charities that are operating in Armenia to help these people out.

Thanks you


hi just a follow up story from the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3665688.stm)

did anyone try to help by the way? we need stop talking and taking more action more often regarding poor Armenian family and i mean Very very poor in ARMENIA.

CatWoman
09-24-2004, 10:17 AM
I definitely want to help this family, is there a way to contact them?

dikranjohn
10-01-2004, 02:26 AM
Dear all


I would like to thank you all for showing support to this family; I have just heard that two Armenian families had contacted the NEAST team asking for contacting information to help this family with money, clothes, etc.

Virgil
10-02-2004, 09:55 PM
I read about this story a while back. There are more families like this. There was a ex-patriot on another Armenian forum that posted pictures of a Armenian woman who also had a lot of children. Her living conditions weren't as bad, but they weren't that much better either. Anyways, you know what is really stupid? You know why are Armenians have been reduced to this existence? Its not because they lack potential but rather, it is because they lack leadership.

For instance, there is a genocide in Sudan, now, instead of Americans or any other "super power" rushing in to save them, Armenians, find themselves morally obligated to help them. Now, really ask yourself, why, you, as a Armenian, should send aid to starving Africans when in fact your countrymen are starving themselves? It ridiculously stupid how Armenians are sending aid to Sudan when in fact there own country is in poverty and is on its last legs. The diaspora has wasted enough time trying to be "morally superior".

This is partly why I hate Armenians that buy into this "one world" and "one human race" bullxxxx that is spewed by the media. Where are these "morally superior" Africans, Americans, and xxxs when Armenians are facing poverty? I am not embarressed at how this woman lives, there is nothing wrong with being poor and I condem this woman for the life she has gone through, however, what I find embarressing is how the Diaspora continually tries to be "morally superior" at the expense of Armenians. Armenians should be sending aid to Armenia not Sudan. I shouldn't read on the BBC how some couple in Italy, France, or Germany has sent aid, but rather I should read how Armenians are sending aid. Instead, Armenians are again shoting themselves in the foot by striving to be his "morally superior" group of people. We need to understand that NOBODY outside of another Armenian will really give a dam about Armenia and Armenians, furthermore, rellying on foriegn armies, governments, and aid is the equivalent of suicide.

Zoran
10-22-2004, 12:26 PM
Life is very sad, very poor for many back home.

HyeJinx1984
10-22-2004, 12:35 PM
Life is very sad, very poor for many back home.

But who cares right? We're all very content to drive our Beamers and charge it up on good food at Carosel while claiming to be proud Armenians.

nunechka
10-23-2004, 08:47 PM
these pics were from the gharabagh crisis? i think thats what the website said... OMG, i feel terrible... astvats karot pahi

nunechka
10-23-2004, 08:50 PM
a pic of a woman in a village in armenia

HyeJinx1984
10-25-2004, 10:48 AM
Now that's hardcore. If I ever make a CD, that's gonna be my cover.

CatWoman
10-25-2004, 11:56 AM
a pic of a woman in a village in armenia

Are you sure? cuz it looks more like a muslim woman from Palestine!

HyeJinx1984
10-25-2004, 09:08 PM
Are you sure? cuz it looks more like a muslim woman from Palestine!

No, she's very Armenian looking... are you reffering to the hood/head dress? Armenian women wear that.

Something we seem to forget is that Armenian women had veils over the lower half of their faces up until the mid 20th century, just like most muslim nations do.

CatWoman
10-25-2004, 09:49 PM
no, actually I was reffering more to the holding gun thing than the covered hair...

HyeJinx1984
10-26-2004, 12:42 AM
funny how everyone thinks it's sad and EVERYONE thinks they should help and EVERYONE reacts with limitless emotions to those pictures... yet I'm sure EVERYONE can't wait until Halloween and partying this weekend.
weird world.

I understand your point, because it's one I make myself constantly, but I don't think going or not going to an Armenian party would affect our agenda one way or another. Like I said, I know what your point is, because I constantly use it... but this is a ridiculous circumstance to bring it up.

Celebrating with your friends on an occasion that comes once a year isn't "forgetting" about the problems back home... not thinking about it every other day of the year IS, and I'm assuming THAT'S your point, which I whole heartedly agree. Fake Armos... time to clean the gene pool *marches down the street with his sawed off*

nunechka
10-26-2004, 11:56 AM
ya... clean the gene pool... i agree... :)

we should be more carrying and respectful toward our peopole and people in general...

the other day we were visiting some family friends house with my parents and the dad of these people, durring dinner he said to me dad "bring me any parskahay man and i will show you that he is not a real Tghamart" so my dad said, i dont know about that subject very much, and managed to cut the converstation to a minumum... mind you that we were all from Armenia there...

but then after we left my dad was like "yes chem sirum es mer khasyanteh, menk irar enk ktsum" meaning we put each other down and we are not nice to each other...

we must stop IT!

HyeJinx1984
10-26-2004, 04:33 PM
ya... clean the gene pool... i agree... :)

we should be more carrying and respectful toward our peopole and people in general...

the other day we were visiting some family friends house with my parents and the dad of these people, durring dinner he said to me dad "bring me any parskahay man and i will show you that he is not a real Tghamart" so my dad said, i dont know about that subject very much, and managed to cut the converstation to a minumum... mind you that we were all from Armenia there...

but then after we left my dad was like "yes chem sirum es mer khasyanteh, menk irar enk ktsum" meaning we put each other down and we are not nice to each other...

we must stop IT!

Yes, especially since Barskahyes are very much "deghamart." To be honest, most of the complaining I hear about is Armenian girls complaining about Stancis traying to be all "armo pimp" or whatever bullxxxx.

I'm not trying to put down any one group, but if someone bites me I bite back. Anyone who tries to segregate armenians, particularly barsgahyes, is an idiot.

nunechka
10-27-2004, 08:30 AM
i agree sweety...

i get pissed when armenians do this to each other... no other culture knows about the differences unless we tell them...

for example, i was being introduced to someone by a co-worker and that person was armenian, and was so happy to meet them, and then they said something stupid like... ohh you are from armenia? i am from lebanon, and then turned to the otar person and said, you know we are soooo different like night and day... i was like WTF!!! why are you saying that? i dont think we should do this...

it doesnt matter, our blood and our culture is our similarity, our differences could be that one like dolma more then kebob... but to call each other names, espcially in front of other people... i just cant tolerate that...