Things get better when you start giving a sh*t

[HyeJinx1984]

Does it? I've noticed something...

About a year ago I wasn't very active in my Armenianianness... basically it expended about as far as speaking Armenian with my relatives. However, in the last year I've sudden become more Armenian and I've noticed... things seem to be looking up, in many different areas. In general, Armenians are getting more mainstream.. in the last year I've seen more Armenians on T.V. and in magazines (NOT talking about on Armenian television or Armenian magazines) than ever before, I'm seeing more politicians, both Local here in california and in the federal government, who are Armenians. As for for Armenia itself, just recently American completely normalized trade with Armenia (a good thing of course) despite Turkish whining and growth rates are up an dpoverty is going down (very, very, very slowly, but it is happening) and various other good news things.

Now... is that all stuff that happens anyway, and the kind of things that have BEEN happening? May sound a little selfcentric, but it seems like as soon as I started giving a xxxx stuff started getting better... I'm wondering if it wasn't just me, if there was just some sort of grand awakening in Armenians everywhere this last year or so to make a big push in our direction.

Of course, not everything is going well.. Turkey and Azerbaijan CONTINUE to do things that hinder us on a daily basis... but over all, it feels like things are looking up for Armenians more than in the past... Anyway, I'm just rambling at this point, just had to share.

P.S.
Does the meaning of a word ever just hit you all of a sudden even though it seems it SHOULD be obvious? for example, it just hit me today that Hayast(d)an literally means "Home of the Armenians" (Hyeri Daneh).

[!EEK]

Hey! I had the exact same attitude. My Armenianess was limited with speaking it with my relatives and the history/legends of armenians my grand mother told me when I was younger.

It's not long ago since I got more interested in my armenian roots.

And about the title it's maybe that you find more stuff BECAUSE you care more about it..there's no secret.

[CatWoman]

Very interesting, same here... it's like the older I get, the more Armenian I get :rolleyes:

[HyeJinx1984]

What I mean is up until a year ago all I'd hear about is "how poor the armenians are boo hoo hoo, nothing goes right for us" and then I say "hey, I'm armenian, I should get involved" and everything else starts getting better. What I wanna know, is it just my perception that's getting better or is reality actually getting better.

[!EEK]

What I mean is up until a year ago all I'd hear about is "how poor the armenians are boo hoo hoo, nothing goes right for us" and then I say "hey, I'm armenian, I should get involved" and everything else starts getting better. What I wanna know, is it just my perception that's getting better or is reality actually getting better.

It's obvious that situation in Armenia is getting better and better. But I stick to my saying: the more you get involved, the more you see good stuff. (because the more you search for it)

[CatWoman]

I know what you're saying Hyejinx... maybe we notice positive changes in Armenia and around us concerning Armenians because we care and pay more attention to it now than we did before, or maybe things ARE just getting better. I dunno :)

[TigranJamharian]

good stuff.
The only way Armenia will improve is if Armenians like us actually give a crap instead of sittin on their asses and whining about how bad the situation is, which is so typical of the hayastancis that I know, most notably my own damn parents. Then the other day they see this program on the Russian channel about how much it has improved there and start telling me about it and im like are you people off your fuking minds what the hell have i been telling you for the past 6 fuking years.

[HyeJinx1984]

good stuff.
The only way Armenia will improve is if Armenians like us actually give a crap instead of sittin on their asses and whining about how bad the situation is, which is so typical of the hayastancis that I know, most notably my own damn parents. Then the other day they see this program on the Russian channel about how much it has improved there and start telling me about it and im like are you people off your fuking minds what the hell have i been telling you for the past 6 fuking years.

Hyastancis and Barsgahyes are equally annoying to me, Hayastansis for the reasons you posted (as well as others) because Barsgahyes like sitting around and acting as though they're so much better than everyone else and put down Hayastancis and Hayastan as if they forget that's where their roots are. To be completely honest, and I say this with no bias, the only Armenians that almost as a whole have my respect are Western Armenians. I mean honestly, look at all the Armenian schools... run by Western Armenians. Look at 90% of Armenian publications, ran by Western Armenians. Look at most Armenian films (admittedly they're not very great) and musical groups (systerm of a down, Signal), largely made by Western Armenians, not to mention most Armenian organizations, either for the betterment of Armenia, betterment of Armenians living within the U.S., or for furthering the genocide agenda, were started by or run by (but not necessarily consist of) mostly Western Armenians.

All I can say is that barsgahyes and hyastancis really need to get their heads out of their asses and start making a difference rather than worrying about what kind of car they drive.

[MadHandle]

yea...I guess I can relate to this in a way. A few years ago I was real proud of where I was from, but didn't really like to represent it, you know, like they would pick up on my accent or what not and I would tell them its nothing, but now I got no probem sharing with people where I'm from. In the past couple of years I've gotten real connected with my Armenian roots.

[MadHandle]

Hyastancis and Barsgahyes are equally annoying to me, Hayastansis for the reasons you posted (as well as others) because Barsgahyes like sitting around and acting as though they're so much better than everyone else and put down Hayastancis and Hayastan as if they forget that's where their roots are. To be completely honest, and I say this with no bias, the only Armenians that almost as a whole have my respect are Western Armenians. I mean honestly, look at all the Armenian schools... run by Western Armenians. Look at 90% of Armenian publications, ran by Western Armenians. Look at most Armenian films (admittedly they're not very great) and musical groups (systerm of a down, Signal), largely made by Western Armenians, not to mention most Armenian organizations, either for the betterment of Armenia, betterment of Armenians living within the U.S., or for furthering the genocide agenda, were started by or run by (but not necessarily consist of) mostly Western Armenians.

All I can say is that barsgahyes and hyastancis really need to get their heads out of their asses and start making a difference rather than worrying about what kind of car they drive.

you see the problem is...there people are more concerned about taking care of their families. Opening up schools, producing grade A films. etc...reguires a large budget...they just don't have that kind of finacial aid there. Westerners have better opportunities to reach success. The Armenian literacy rate is very high, I can safely say, the average Hayastancis have a way higher IQ then Western Armenians, but they just can't put it to good use since opportunities rarely every come.

[HyeJinx1984]

you see the problem is...there people are more concerned about taking care of their families. Opening up schools, producing grade A films. etc...reguires a large budget...they just don't have that kind of finacial aid there. Westerners have better opportunities to reach success. The Armenian literacy rate is very high, I can safely say, the average Hayastancis have a way higher IQ then Western Armenians, but they just can't put it to good use since opportunities rarely every come.

I agree with you. But Barsgahyes really have no excuse. I am one, I know. Many of them would rather just be Barsig and forget about the Hye part.

[TigranJamharian]

I agree with you. But Barsgahyes really have no excuse. I am one, I know. Many of them would rather just be Barsig and forget about the Hye part.

i gotta hear you talk jinx, i miss a good parskahye accent.lol.

and madhandle you brought up the accent thing, well you cant imagine what i would give right now so that i could have my Armenian accent. When i first came here i tried my hardest to get rid of it, now it seems so much more interesting, i hate being taken for an american

[HyeJinx1984]

i gotta hear you talk jinx, i miss a good parskahye accent.lol.

and madhandle you brought up the accent thing, well you cant imagine what i would give right now so that i could have my Armenian accent. When i first came here i tried my hardest to get rid of it, now it seems so much more interesting, i hate being taken for an american

Actually I was born and raised here so I have no accent. people say I sound like a white surfer-type when I speak Armenian, lol.

[Anonymouse]

Awww isn't it cute? The "I wanna rebel" generation is finally maturing.

[MadHandle]

i gotta hear you talk jinx, i miss a good parskahye accent.lol.

and madhandle you brought up the accent thing, well you cant imagine what i would give right now so that i could have my Armenian accent. When i first came here i tried my hardest to get rid of it, now it seems so much more interesting, i hate being taken for an american

haha same here...my accent faded a while back.

[HyePrincess]

hey thats excatly how i am it seems the older i get the more armenian i turn lol . latley i have been thinking soo much of me being armenian and i alwayz say to my self im soooooooo lucky and happy that i was born an armenian now i reprsent more and i have more pride in my self then ever. ya and i also think armenians are getting back on track in armenia and here in the U.S . i never had an accent i was born and raised here ohh ya and u no what else gets me mad that they say american/ armenians dont have pride in them selves of being armenian and they dont care bla bla bla ..................... but it seems i have more pride than a lot of other armenians that were born in armenia
soo ya watevea i dont no if this made sense but yea

[spiral]

... because Barsgahyes like sitting around and acting as though they're so much better than everyone else and put down Hayastancis and Hayastan as if they forget that's where their roots are.


Western Armenians do this as well. I would think morse-so than Parskahyes,

To be completely honest, and I say this with no bias, the only Armenians that almost as a whole have my respect are Western Armenians. I mean honestly, look at all the Armenian schools... run by Western Armenians. Look at 90% of Armenian publications, ran by Western Armenians. Look at most Armenian films (admittedly they're not very great) and musical groups (systerm of a down, Signal), largely made by Western Armenians, not to mention most Armenian organizations, either for the betterment of Armenia, betterment of Armenians living within the U.S., or for furthering the genocide agenda, were started by or run by (but not necessarily consist of) mostly Western Armenians.

Well, Jinx, I think that the reason for this is that most western Armenian youth are second generation Armenian /Americans, while, hayastanci youth is first. They've been here longer. Not all but most.


All I can say is that barsgahyes and hyastancis really need to get their heads out of their asses and start making a difference rather than worrying about what kind of car they drive.

Then I suggest you get started. Cuz xxxxxing about it on a forum, isn't exactly contribution.

[HyePrincess]

it didn't.



so what do you do that's different than say last year or the year before?
you just "have more pride"..???


i knew it wouldnt make sense but wateva u got my point

i dont no wat it is i just feel happier and thank god that i was born an armenian and now when some one says something bad about armenians ill shove my fist up their mouth :D but back then i would be like watever

[HyeJinx1984]

Then I suggest you get started. Cuz xxxxxing about it on a forum, isn't exactly contribution.

Who says I'm not already contributing? You don't know me, don't be mean to me for no reason :( I don't want a Spiral being mad at me... :crying: :crying: :crying:

[xBaron Dants]

You NOTICE things getting better because you start giving a sh*t. It didn't get better because you care...you're not that influential yet.

[HyeJinx1984]

You NOTICE things getting better because you start giving a sh*t. It didn't get better because you care...you're not that influential yet.

lol, I know. People are misunderstanding me an dthinking I'm some self centered guy...

what I'm saying is, was there like some mass re-awakening, like I wasn't the only one, and because of this things are getting better? I dunno. Was just sharing what I see.

[spiral]

even though some could argue that that's not the case and there's vast immigration of Armenians to the US right now from Lebanon and Syria and Kuwait.

I am not arguing that all the Armenians from Lebanon, Syria and Kuwait, have emigrated to the U.S already, and that there is no more left in those countries.

My point was that majority of the Western Armenians who do what jinx mentioned, have been here longer than most Hayastanci’s. Whose most recent influx (on a grand scale) was in the late 80’s.


lets just say for the sake of argument your assumption is valid.
isn't it supposed to have the opposite effect. aren't 1st generation people supposed to be more active in the sense that the longer you've been outside of Armenia the more "assimilated" you are... or the more exposed you are to different cultures?

No

… and my point was not about assimilation, my point was about Armenian youth, and being able to make a difference.

I'm don't mean this in a bad way, but can I ask how you contribute yourself?
just curious.


Whether I contribute or not is completely irrelevant, as I am not the one complaining about other Armenians not contributing.

[HyeJinx1984]

Whether I contribute or not is completely irrelevant, as I am not the one complaining about other Armenians not contributing.

That's Spiral talk for "no" :p *hugs* gatak enk anoom..