The Armenian Genes...

[Yuro]

In the Armenian Diaspora community there is a great view that Armenian's should marry Armenian's. I used to agree with this view. But, the more I think about it, the more it appears to me that this viewpoint is rather selfish of us.

From reading the forums, there have been talks of Armenian women being looked down upon by their families because they chose to marry a non-Armenian. I'd like to hear where people got this from, because in my opinion this is totally untrue. Armenian families are very close, we're not Indians; where a girl will get burnt, or stoned to death if she runs away from her arranged marriage.

There is no reason why Armenian's can not marry other races. Love is love. The important aspect of this is to teach your partner and your children the Armenian culture, and vise versa. There are non-Armenian's who know more about Armenia and its culture than that of "pure" Armenian's. The fact is, that as we may think we are pure Armenian's, we may not be, my family tree dates back to Iran, and I am also aware that I have some Russian blood in me. And so in fact, I would come to a conclusion that the majority of us are not so pure. That's not to say that we are not Armenian. There are many different communities of Armenians in our world, some are darker than others, some are blonde, etc. The smallest drop of Armenian blood in a person will make him/her an Armenian. Armenian's have strong characteristics, and even half Armenian's consider themselves Armenians. I see nothing wrong in this.

We as Armenian's should be able to marry anyone we choose, no matter their race(if this talk of family neglect is true among people). As long we teach our spouses and children the Armenian way, what difference is there, they will probably be more Armenian than some other Armenian families in America who eat hot chips for dinner, or eat out more often then they should.

It's time to relax, let our feet up, watch some porn :naughty: , and let the Armenian blood flow amongst others, that way, there will be more peace amongst people. Once of the kindest people in the world, Princess Diana, was 1/64th Armenian.

[HyeJinx1984]

As Armenians say... vee put an and X on you *makes an X in the air with his finger*

Oh, and just an example, for thanksgiving we went to my mom's friend's house. Her Father was Armenian, her mom was Polish. He father put her through Armenian School... however, since dad was at work most of the time she ended up learning more polish because of her mother. She then went on to marry a persian man and have two kids who bore the last name Azarmi. The kids don't know how to speak Farci, let alone Armenian, and are both now happily married with Wasp spouses who's kids, 6 and 8 respectively have no idea about their background, be it their Persian, Armenian or Polish ones.

Intermarrying and Assimilation don't "help make us keep our culture together" what kind of retarded xxxx is that? I'm not saying you HAVE to do what I believe, but at least don't insult me by saying stupid things.

Ask ANY Sociology or History professor, Inter-Marrying has never in the history of human existance kept a culture alive, it is infact it's the number 1 cause of assimilation.

[CatWoman]

Ask ANY Sociology or History professor, Inter-Marrying has never in the history of human existance kept a culture alive, it is infact it's the number 1 cause of assimilation.

I agree with history professors, lol... inter-marrying is the number one cause of assimilation. But you cant force anyone to do anything, it should be in them to want to marry an Armenian, if it's not, there is nothing anyone can do to change that.

[HyeJinx1984]

I agree with history professors, lol... inter-marrying is the number one cause of assimilation. But you cant force anyone to do anything, it should be in them to want to marry an Armenian, if it's not, there is nothing anyone can do to change that.

Like I said, I'm not trying to force him to do what i believe... but I also don't like when people make idiotic statements to justify their actions.

[CatWoman]

Like I said, I'm not trying to force him to do what i believe... but I also don't like when people make idiotic statements to justify their actions.

Neither do I...

[Hayq]

Assimilation is not a good thing. However, being over protective of our culture is worse. If we keep to ourselves, the odars we live amongst will frown on us. It is good to make friends with the locals. Mixing is not a good thing, but then again, is it worth marrying another ARmenian if you are going to be miserable and have children who would be soo messed up and end up becoming Thugs, then marrying an African? Love is bull sh*t. You don't get married for love, you get married because you want to start a family. There are many half Armenian half American kids I know of, they seem to be much better and more informed than kids from both Armenian Parents. The view of what is an Armenian differs from person to person...it is your opinion, really.

[HyeJinx1984]

I belong to the "Integrate and infiltrate" camp rather than the "assimilate" camp. It really is that black and white with me.

[Crimson Glow]

Assimilation is not a good thing. However, being over protective of our culture is worse. If we keep to ourselves, the odars we live amongst will frown on us. It is good to make friends with the locals. Mixing is not a good thing, but then again, is it worth marrying another ARmenian if you are going to be miserable and have children who would be soo messed up and end up becoming Thugs, then marrying an African? Love is bull sh*t. You don't get married for love, you get married because you want to start a family. There are many half Armenian half American kids I know of, they seem to be much better and more informed than kids from both Armenian Parents. The view of what is an Armenian differs from person to person...it is your opinion, really.

Precisely. Hyejinx, I take it you were addressing me with that quoted phrase. It is far from a "bullsh*t" statement, and for the millionth time, there are thousands of Californian Armenians who prove this everyday. Don't take my phrases out of context. I didn't say marrying Armenian isn't a help in saving our culture. I said it's far from a guarantee, like so many are trying to pretend it to be. If it was, Cali Armenians wouldn't be in the state of chaos they're in, today.

[chille]

I think we cannot tell people what to do and whom to marry. It should be a personal choice. If he/she chooses to marry an non-Armenian, let it be. It is his/her life and choice. Of course, marrying someone outside of your culture will lead to assimilation. Like I know of a lot of families in Armenia where an Armenian would marry a Georgian, Russian, etc. Since they all live in Armenia, the kids consider themselves Armenian.
And another observation. Even if you are an Armenian and your spouse is as well, but you live somewhere outside of Armenia, eventually your kids, grandkids or greatgrandkids will lose the connection to the Armenian culture. Just because assimilation is natural process and happens all the time. It just takes time

[sSsflamesSs]

Just because assimilation is natural process and happens all the time. It just takes time

So I guess we should just help to speed it up, eh? Yea! Thaaaaat's it! :rolleyes:




FYI chille, my comment is not directed only at you.

[HyeJinx1984]

Precisely. Hyejinx, I take it you were addressing me with that quoted phrase. It is far from a "bullsh*t" statement, and for the millionth time, there are thousands of Californian Armenians who prove this everyday. Don't take my phrases out of context. I didn't say marrying Armenian isn't a help in saving our culture. I said it's far from a guarantee, like so many are trying to pretend it to be. If it was, Cali Armenians wouldn't be in the state of chaos they're in, today.

*Blinks* you realize you quoted Hayq, but directed your response at me, right? which one of us are you talking too?

[sweet_thang]

I also agree with the statements about how you should marry who love, not whether they are the same race of you or not.

[ArmoBarbi]

This topic has created a problem for me. My family is fairly liberal, and is only against me marrying noncaucasians or nonchristians. I can marry a Russian, a Dane, a Greek, etc. In fact, the only person in my family who opposes assimilation of Armenians is me. I have openly committed to marrying Armenian. My family tries to talk me out of it by calling me a nationalist and saying i should give other guys a chance, but I will keep arguing back no matter what they say.

We have been so depleted already, our ancestors had to survive through so much, and so many Armenians now are happily assimilating. Some of us have to care about keeping the culture alive. Hearing about other Armenians assimilating makes me sad. There is no way I will contribute to the very phenomenon that upsets me.

I am not big on telling others how to live. My cousin just married a half Polish xxx, fourth Russian, and fourth Turk. I did not say a word to him - its his choice. The only thing I can tell them is that my husband will be a real Armenian man.