Iran to Deliver a Missile Blow to Azerbaijan

[arabico]

do you think it is possible ?

http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=199

[karoaper]

do you think it is possible ?

http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=199

Wow, that's a hell of an article. Well it certainly could be if US chose to start things with Iran, If they do it from within Azerbaijan, I can certainly see Iran firing "couple" of missles across the border. However, it is highly unlikely that Iran would do that without some provocation. The buildiing of the outpost is not provocation enough.

The war between US and Iran would be a horrible thing. It would put the region in complete disarray, potentially turn friends into enemies. It would put Armenia in a very tight spot. Would it side more with US or with Iran, the only friendly neighbor we have in the region. So, I really hope Iran doesn't do anything stupid. I don't think it will. I'm more scared about America's Iran aspirations.

[CatWoman]

With Iran's new president Ahmadinejad being an extremist and all, I'm sure their relations with Azerbaijan is only gonna get worse. Iran is an Islamic republic and wants the same for its neighbors and Azerbaijan isn't. Not only that, but there is a fear of Azerbaijan claiming the entire northwestern part of the Iran since it's population are of Azeri descent. I'm sure they will try their best to change the government in Azerbaijan and replace them with Shi-te (stupid censors lol) extremists like they tried to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

NOW, if US decides to attack Iran and uses Azerbaijan for its military bases, of course they'll fire missiles at them, are you kidding me?

Anyway, as karoaper said, that will put Armenia in a tight spot...

[arabico]

I don't think the US can handle a second war in such a short time. I think that's why iranians are feeling more comfortable now and challenging the UN and EU with their nuclear program. The US can not fight alone against Iran in the near future. They can't afford two battlefields at the same time. specially if we know that things in iraq are not settled yet even after two years of the war. The only hope for war is that Europe(NATO) joins the US in an attack against Iran which is very unlikely. I think as long as IRan keeps communications with Europe open they will be safe.

The big question is what will happen if Iran gets the nuclear weapon??!! The US says they are few months away thanks to Russia. Now what these russians are thinking??!!

In regards to Armenia, I think they should stay neutral in case of a war and hold their ally Russia tight with their hands and teeth.

[Dave]

Believe it or not, something like this might start out WWIII, starting with Iran, Azerbaijan, USA, Britain, Russia, Armenia, Turkey, etc.

The US must waiting impatiently for this opportunity...

[Red Brigade]

there is a fear of Azerbaijan claiming the entire northwestern part of the Iran

Not only that but there is a possibility,if such a conflict even take place in the future, to use the Kurds of Iran as well.If North Iran become part of Azerbaijan then Armenia would be in a horrible position , since our route to iran will be cut.

[arabico]

Why fear the kurds?? we could be allies with them. we share the same enemy.

[skhara]

Is it possible?

Of coarse.


Not only that but there is a possibility,if such a conflict even take place in the future, to use the Kurds of Iran as well.If North Iran become part of Azerbaijan then Armenia would be in a horrible position , since our route to iran will be cut.

I would't worry about such a possibility. That is an impossibility. Besides, Iran would obliterate Azerbaijan, if there are any provocations by Azerbaijan. Iran can claim Azerbaijan, and in fact, they do.

[Red Brigade]

Why fear the kurds?? we could be allies with them. we share the same enemy.

It is not so simple.
Perhaps the Kurds are a large minority in Turkey, but there isnt any big possibility for America to bomb Turkey.They are preparing themselves for Iran.If there is an attack to Iran , then they are going to use two large minorities for their purpose, the Azeris and the Kurds.The attack from the ground will start from Azerbaijan and the north and they will probably use the Kurds of Iraq.
Turkey will probably look for better ties with Iran, since the Kurds are a problem for both of them.
So if this happens there will be a Kurdistan and a Northern Azerbaijan and as a result this will cause many problems to Armenia , since we will lose our route from Iran.

[Dave]

Kurds supported the Americans in Iraq, but they didn't get their Kurdistan. I don't think Kurds are blind enough to support an eventual invasion of Iran.

The Iranian Azeris aren't like the Azerbaijanis. First of all, they are Iranian citizens, which means that they are very religious (unlike the Azerbaijanis). The Iranian Azeris use the Arabic script instead of the Cyrillic script. There are probably many more differences that I don't see...

If the Americans take over Iran, it would be better for them to keep it in one piece.

[karoaper]

Kurds supported the Americans in Iraq, but they didn't get their Kurdistan. I don't think Kurds are blind enough to support an eventual invasion of Iran.

The Iranian Azeris aren't like the Azerbaijanis. First of all, they are Iranian citizens, which means that they are very religious (unlike the Azerbaijanis). The Iranian Azeris use the Arabic script instead of the Cyrillic script. There are probably many more differences that I don't see...

If the Americans take over Iran, it would be better for them to keep it in one piece.
I agree, Kurds will have as much chance of getting Kurdistan in Iran as they have it now in Iraq. Kurds wil be used and discarded. Furthermore, dviding Iran will not fit into America's strategic plans for the region, which will be another puppet state allowing US bases to be built on its land and US industry to use its raw resources.

[karoaper]

I was talking to an Iranian guy I know from my school. He confirmed that they know of such installations being built in Azerbaijan. And he further commented that a US invasion of Iran (if godforbid there was one) would be from Azerbaijan. Finally, he was pretty certain they would pay dearly for such a choice.

[Armand]

just noticed that everbody fools kurds with a peice of land like fooling a child with candy.... one wonders if they are gonna fall for that again.... and if USA happens to attack iran then i will start to believe that Amreicans really try to dig their own grave and this time would be the last for them...i dont know if their economy can handle another war... iran is not iraq... it looks like American empire being more aggressive as they come close to their expire date... as all other empires did in the history...

[arabico]

just noticed that everbody fools kurds with a peice of land like fooling a child with candy...

lol. you consider giving land to Kurds as fooling them!! i wish they fool the armenians too :laugh:

[Dave]

lol. you consider giving land to Kurds as fooling them!! i wish they fool the armenians too

I think what he meant is that Americans promised them land in Iraqi Kurdistan but when the work was done, Americans didn't keep their promise. It will probably be the same for the Kurds, Azeris, and the other Iranian minorities if America invades Iran.

[Armand]

yeah exactly...also remember ataurk promised them land in southern turkey too...

[ploor_arkah]

The Iranian Azeris aren't like the Azerbaijanis. First of all, they are Iranian citizens, which means that they are very religious (unlike the Azerbaijanis). The Iranian Azeris use the Arabic script instead of the Cyrillic script. There are probably many more differences that I don't see...


There are a number of Iranian Azeris who frequently drive commercial trucks to Yerevan and I met one of them named Hussein who spoke both Turkish and Farsi and a little Armenian. He told me that Iranian Azeris despise the Azerbaijani Azeris and say that they are uncultured barbarians. He also told me that Iranian Azeris actually like and respect Armenians.

There are already plans to hit 450 sites in Iran with nuclear bunker-buster bombs. The U.S. does not need to use Azerbaijan as a stepping stone to hit Iran because it can do that well enough from Iraq and Afghanistan and already have permmission from the Uzbeks to attack Iran from American bases in Uzbekistan. Not to say that coming from Azerbaijan also wouldn't help the invasion by putting more pressure on the Iranians and coming at them from 4 sides.

Let's hope the Irans decisively defeat and destroy the American invaders and then force the Americans to withdraw from Iraq as well.

[Red Brigade]

They might leave Israel to bombard the targets, like they did in Iraq few years ago.

[skhara]

I think it would be smart for Iran to be a direct threat to Israel. Meaning any attack on Iran by anyone should be countered with a missle volley on Israel. I heard a while back that Iran delivered some missles to Hezbollah who would make such a launch in case of attack against Iran.

[Red Brigade]

The question is:does Iran has the capability to deliver a missle to Israel?
I seriously doubt if they do and it would not be wise to do such thing either, since Israel is a nuclear power.
Plus Israel whishes to have good relationships with Muslim non Arab countries , such as Turkey and Iran.They had perefect relationships with each other during the Shah after all.

[Thai-Samurai]

Israel has nuclear weapons!? Does George Bush know about this?

[Red Brigade]

Israel has nuclear weapons!? Does George Bush know about this?

Not only Israel has nuclear weapons Samurai , but they are the only nation which refuses to subscribe the Protocol of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).



**In few words NPT is this:
(NPT) - This treaty entered into force March 5, 1970. It allows five states (US, UK, France, China, Russia) to own nuclear arms so long as they agree not to give nuclear weapons to other states. However, the nuclear-weapons states are directed by the treaty to take steps towards comprehensive nuclear disarmament. Non-nuclear weapons states that sign the NPT are not permitted to acquire nuclear weapons, nor are they allowed to engage in nuclear weapons research or development.

The number of the countries are more now and as i said Israel is the only country which refuses to even sign the treaty.

http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/List_of_countries_with_nuclear_weapons

The latest news regarding Israel and NPT.
http://aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9133

[skhara]

Thus, they have no business dictating to Iran.

[Red Brigade]

Unfortunately it is the will of the strong (Israel today,someone else tomorow) that counts.It always was.

[skhara]

If Iran develops nukes, the balance of power shifts away from Israel. That's the only reason they are whining. Iran would be holding a nice deck of cards.

Edit:
By the way, I do hope for a strong Iran. Keeps zionists at bay, keeps turks at bay, Armenia has a good trading partner....

[Armand]

everybody has nukes.... but dont have the balls to deliver them... see turkey...they dont have nukes but they invaded cyprus ...they made operations in northern iraq and they are still willing to do it... also they are helping turkic countries..giving them equipment and all... so problem is not the nukes but the balls.... iran is not a hostile country and they can have nukes if they want'em... no one has the right to tell them otherwise...and by the way a strong iran means some stability in the region....

[winoman]

everybody has nukes.... but dont have the balls to deliver them... see turkey...they dont have nukes but they invaded cyprus ...they made operations in northern iraq and they are still willing to do it... also they are helping turkic countries..giving them equipment and all... so problem is not the nukes but the balls.... iran is not a hostile country and they can have nukes if they want'em... no one has the right to tell them otherwise...and by the way a strong iran means some stability in the region....

Are 12 year olds allowed on this forum? Just asking....

[Red Brigade]

I checked it.Iran has a 1.500 missile range, which means it can reach Israel.In the Map you can see the missle range of Iran plus the countries that are hosting US bases.



http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/images/iran-us-bases.gif

[skhara]

Are 12 year olds allowed on this forum? Just asking....

Well he has his birthday listed. I think we'll just have to trust that.


see turkey...they dont have nukes but they invaded cyprus ...they made operations in northern iraq and they are still willing to do it...

Because they have a cover and they know it. They knew there would not be any repurcusions for them invading Cyprus, so they went ahead with it. The go ahead came directly from Kissinger. The threat for Greece not to intervene -- same source. So long as they have Washingtons and Tel-Aviv cover, who do have nukes, they can do what they want.

[TomServo]

http://maddox.xmission.com/bomb_iran.html