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  • Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhood

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    Please Allow Me to Introduce Vahe Avetian (writer, publicist, politician) in this exclusive interview.

    I hope you find the interview as captivating and fascinating as I do

    Lara Kaplan
    Editor
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    Vahe, Please tell us about your family and yourself ?

    I was born as an Armenian in Yerevan and was thoroughly brainwashed as such by parents, elders, relatives, all kind of local authorities, teachers, statesmen and clergy. I was born again, as a Swede this time, in Stockholm, and was thoroughly brainwashed by the respective authorities and people of my second tribe, Swedes. I died as both in Washington D.C., USA, and since then I am trying to preserve myself as a human being instead, as much as I can. .

    How did you decide to move to Sweden and how it has affected your writing and political views/experiences ?

    I didn't decide. It was the Soviet intelligence that took the power back in 1992 in Armenia that decided. Sweden was just the country that issued me a visa and a political asylum later. I would call it a coincidence if I would believe in such a concept. I don't. I just have no logical explanation for being in Sweden. It just happened so. "Non logical" explanations that I have are not presentable to a wide public. Being in Sweden changed me a lot of course, especially when I became a Swede. Being full-time Armenian and a Swede at the same time was an extraordinary practice where each of these identities ..

    What happened in Glendale when you decided to go to USA and why?

    I attended a literary evening organized in honor of the Armenian writer Vahe Oshagan; let him rest in peace, where the ARF establishment gathered from all over the world. I couldn't find a better place among Armenians to declare that there are writers in the motherland who were politically prosecuted and exiled, and that it is the duty of every public organization and gathering to condemn human rights violations. They violently attacked me from all sides and arrested me in the library, where the event was taking place, by American policemen with Armenian surnames (both ARF supporters as I found out later); two other Armenians (also ARF members) brought battery charges against me. This happened with the full cooperation of the attendants, who shut down their ears while their women at the helm of their voice released an endless lu-lu-lu-lu, ....

    Why all political and public organizations, figures, journalists, human rights defenders in Armenia and Diaspora keep silence about exiled writers?

    Good question.
    One need to know the modern post Soviet history of Caucasus and other post Soviet republics as well, to be able to understand why those above-mentioned in Armenia keep silence. The history of the republics, which were not welcome to join the European family, went different from East Germany’s or Baltic republics’ or the countries which collectively are called often “former Warsaw Pact members” or “east – European neighborhood.”

    The other 12 former soviet republics were left under the patronage of the newly established Russian Federation which never denounced or reorganized the former security structures of USSR: KGB, GRU, and so....

    What can you tell us about the ARF? and How did you get to be a representative of them in Scandinavia?

    ARF is a coalition of small and relatively wealthy dealer-wheeler bunch of uneducated and brainwashed dupes as majority and some very sophisticated, well educated agents of KGB.

    I was young then and was out there to save the world, which was the motherland and nothing else. Marukhian, the leader of the party then and exiled from Armenia that time, visited Sweden, where we....

    What is the agenda of ARF, whether they have any contribution or hinder any positive steps etc. ?

    No agenda except growing bellies, buts and thick heads. Shish kebab, Ishli kufta and ghavurma are the agenda of a dashnak....

    What are your experiences with Turks in general ?

    The first Turk I met in my life was Tahibeh, a wonderful woman, mother of several kids, my neighbor. She knocked on my door the same day I moved to my apartment in Stockholm and offered some new home baked bread. I was very much surprised and told her that I don't need bread. She insisted. I accepted it. The bread was delicious. Her explanation of the move was that it is in her tradition to share bread with neighbors and I enjoyed that tradition of hers for many years until she passed away. May she be blessed and rest in peace. She was my introduction to my personal experiences with Turks. Later I had a couple of dozen pupils with Turkish origin in my studios and got to know their parents. I am honored by the title "abi" daily by the Turkish kids and youngsters of the neighborhood, and believe me, it is not a word with which they honor many. I can definitely tell today that my personal experience with Turks is very different from the "official line" and the brainwashing about Turks by the Armenian state, academicians, Diaspora, parents, grandparents, all kinds of authorities and priesthood....

    Do you see any marked differences between present-day Armenians and Turks? If so, how ?

    None: Turks probably are more open-minded now, I guess. Turkey is a democracy, weak yet, but a democracy. And not less important: Turkey is an independent state. Armenia is far away from two mentioned concepts yet....

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    Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

    Well hell i live in Greece but that did ton happen to me i got the impression of propaganda here,no brainwash as he say what the hell is wrong with him!Both in armenia and in diaspora people are logical in what exactly do the brainwash is about!
    If he is paid by the turks to write xxxx then hell to him...\
    Now tell me which armenian refers to him self or his country as a tribe??What are we indians!Are the cowboys after us!!!
    Last edited by UrMistake; 09-21-2010, 01:00 PM.

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      Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

      "Abi" is NOT a term that has any sense of honor or respect attached to it: it is the equivalent of the casual and insincere "mate" said by a drunken man as he approaches you to ask you something (or rob you) or the casual and insincere "dear" said by some rushed social worker to his/her elderly client as he/she delivers the bare minimum of care as quickly as possible.
      Plenipotentiary meow!

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        Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

        Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
        "Abi" is NOT a term that has any sense of honor or respect attached to it: it is the equivalent of the casual and insincere "mate" said by a drunken man as he approaches you to ask you something (or rob you) or the casual and insincere "dear" said by some rushed social worker to his/her elderly client as he/she delivers the bare minimum of care as quickly as possible.
        You either don't know what you are talking about or giving out the crooked version and partial of the expression

        Abi means yaşça büyük erkek kardeş...(elderly brother) and has always respect in the meaning although the term can be used in an abusive manner which is higly unlikely in this situation

        here's another explanation:
        çok özlenen, çok sevilen,keşke hep yanımda olsa diye düşünülen ,süper , aşmış, her daim kocaman sarılmak istediğim insan

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          Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

          Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
          Well hell i live in Greece but that did ton happen to me i got the impression of propaganda here,no brainwash as he say what the hell is wrong with him!Both in armenia and in diaspora people are logical in what exactly do the brainwash is about!
          If he is paid by the turks to write xxxx then hell to him...\
          Now tell me which armenian refers to him self or his country as a tribe??What are we indians!Are the cowboys after us!!!
          Yes he could be paid by the turks,
          I think tribe is the right term to be used as he wants to criticize the political mentality although I choose not to use it if it was me

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            Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            the casual and insincere "dear" said by some rushed social worker to his/her elderly client as he/she delivers the bare minimum of care as quickly as possible.
            Is this where you hear this word then Bell, when your social worker comes in to turn you in your bed?

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              Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

              Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
              What are we indians!

              Are the cowboys after us!!!
              I like that very much

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                Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

                I agree Armenians and Turks are very similar. William Saroyan believed Armenians were "Christian Turks". Any Turk that offers his/her hand of friendship should be welcomed

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                  Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

                  Originally posted by lampron View Post
                  I agree Armenians and Turks are very similar. William Saroyan believed Armenians were "Christian Turks". Any Turk that offers his/her hand of friendship should be welcomed
                  Naive. The CUP at first offered friendship and then we know what happened. Friendship from the Turks comes with enormous and bloody strings attached. No thanks.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                    Re: Vahe Avetian: I Am Honored By "Abi" Title Daily By Turkish Kids Of Neighborhoo

                    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
                    "Abi" is NOT a term that has any sense of honor or respect attached to it: it is the equivalent of the casual and insincere "mate" said by a drunken man as he approaches you to ask you something (or rob you) or the casual and insincere "dear" said by some rushed social worker to his/her elderly client as he/she delivers the bare minimum of care as quickly as possible.
                    I believe mouradian is another member who is actually a Turk but uses an Armenian moniker on this site. We get those from time to time. How clever.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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