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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
    He was talking about his son as being a leader of Goris' branch of Yerkrapah.
    Yes, that's what I said. His son is supposed (according official version of Liska) to be the killer of the mayor candidate, and wounder of his brother...

    Your criteria about valor is not mine. Putting the photo of Antranik is not enough argument to plunder huge Dizak province... nor sacrificing hundred of young lives out of his short sighted incompetence... He has the highest ratio of human losses in the first war. His supposed national spirit is not enough... if he has to sent someone to death, let him biggin by senting his own son first, who never served, and is mayor of Etchmiyadzin.... any drunk mujik is as nationalist as him, does that give them the place he is offered in society??
    Look who's defending his usurpated heroic character, ... it tells enough about that valor.
    What he has done in first war may be forgotten, but we must learn from first experience, to avoid same situation of asphalt fedayees usurpating a fame they are not deserved. More so, when a drunk old glory uses this new war as an occasion to revigorate his already wasted potential, by a PR tour well behind lines...
    In this new war, his valor is not more than N1 oligark Lfik's tour of duty.... at least lfik did it so badly, his ridicule made all Armenia smile....., Manvel is dangerous, since I bet what you want, not long ago, when people will forget details, you will see all the glory of this second war will be reffered to him, thanks to his khorovadz tour to Ara Ler....



    Last edited by Vrej1915; 05-25-2016, 08:21 AM.

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      Քուռ գետից մի քիչ էլ ձախ պետք է անցնենք ու տարածքներ վերցնենք.այնտեղ բերրի հողեր կան.Հետախույզ

      2016-05-25 13:34:47
      «Պատերազմը վերջացած չէ, քանի որ մեր թշնամին անկանխատեսելի է: Ես հանգիստ կլինեմ, երբ լեռներին ձյուն նստի, իսկ քանի որ առջևում ամառ է, շատ ուշադիր պետք է լինենք և այդպես էլ կա»,-այսօր՝ լրագրողների հետ հանդիպման ժամանակ ասաց ազատամարտիկ Շահե Աճեմյանը, ով օրերս էր վերադարձել առաջնագծից:

      Առաջին հետախուզադիվերսիոն ջոկատի հրամանատար, ազատամարտիկ Վովա Վարդանովն էլ շարունակելով վերջինին նշեց.

      «Ինչպես սպորտում, այնպես էլ պատերազմի դաշտում, մինչև մեկը ծնկի չգա՝ հաղթանակ չի լինի: Ինչքան ուզում ես խաղաղության վերաբերյալ պայմանագրեր կնքիր, մինչև Բաքուն կամ Երևանը չտապալվեն, պատերազմը չի վերջանա: Երբ տապալվի Բաքուն՝ կպահպանվի թուրք ժողովուրդը, կստեղծվեն նոր պետություններ՝ Լեզգիստան, Թալիշստան և այլն, իսկ Երևանի տապալվելու դեպքում մեզ ցեղասպանություն և գաղթ է սպասվում: Նաև այս պատճառով է, որ մեր զինվորները լավ են կռվում, որովհետև մենք պարտվելու իրավունք չունենք»:

      Խոսելով կորցրած տարածքների մասին՝ Վովա Վարդանովն ընդգծեց.

      «Պետք է հետ վերցնենք կորցրած տարածքներն ու առաջ գնանք մինչև Քուռ գետի ափը.սա ռազմական, քաղաքական անհրաժեշտություն է: Այս տարածքները կարելի է հետ վերցնել ավելի քիչ զոհերով, ավելի մեծ վնաս հասցնելով: Ավելին, կարելի է Քռից մի քիչ էլ ձախ անցնել ու տարածքներ վերցնել, քանի որ այնտեղ բերրի հողեր կան, աջ կողմի մասին չեմ խոսում, որովհետև այն մեր հողն է»:

      Հեռտախույզի խոսքով՝ մեր կորցրած տարածքները ոչ թե ստրատեգիական, այլ տակտիկական նշանակություն ունեն.

      «Երբ համակարգչով բացում ես քարտեզն, արդեն տեսնում ես, որ մեր դիրքերն արդեն մեջքի կողմից՝ Թալիշի հատվածում, թշնամու հարվածի ներքո են: Այսինքն, թշնամին ոչ միայն մեր առջև է, այլ հետևում՝ անկյան տակ: Նրանք կարող են 1,2,3 զինվորի սպանել, բայց այդտեղից ստրատեգիական մեծ խնդիրներ չեն կարող լուծել: Նույնը նաև Լելե Թեփեի դեպքում: Այն բարձունք է ու բնական է՝ այդտեղից ավելի հեռու ես տեսնում, ու երբ այն մեր ձեռքում էր, տեսնում էինք Պարսկաստանը Ադրբեջանին կապող կամուրջը, մոտ է Նախիջևանին»:

      Անի Կարապետյան

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          Originally posted by Joseph View Post
          Newspaper: Armenian specialists achieve progress in creating drone-neutralizing systems
          Good job!

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              Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
              Yes, that's what I said. His son is supposed (according official version of Liska) to be the killer of the mayor candidate, and wounder of his brother...

              Your criteria about valor is not mine. Putting the photo of Antranik is not enough argument to plunder huge Dizak province... nor sacrificing hundred of young lives out of his short sighted incompetence... He has the highest ratio of human losses in the first war. His supposed national spirit is not enough... if he has to sent someone to death, let him biggin by senting his own son first, who never served, and is mayor of Etchmiyadzin.... any drunk mujik is as nationalist as him, does that give them the place he is offered in society??
              Look who's defending his usurpated heroic character, ... it tells enough about that valor.
              What he has done in first war may be forgotten, but we must learn from first experience, to avoid same situation of asphalt fedayees usurpating a fame they are not deserved. More so, when a drunk old glory uses this new war as an occasion to revigorate his already wasted potential, by a PR tour well behind lines...
              In this new war, his valor is not more than N1 oligark Lfik's tour of duty.... at least lfik did it so badly, his ridicule made all Armenia smile....., Manvel is dangerous, since I bet what you want, not long ago, when people will forget details, you will see all the glory of this second war will be reffered to him, thanks to his khorovadz tour to Ara Ler....



              http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l=1#post373977
              Those 3, Manvel, Surik and Seyran are in nature bullish brutes who used the first war to get to positions they never deserve.
              They are responcible for plunder and murder of people. Just because their sons did not serve n the military, makes them demagogues of worst kind.
              They have degraded national morale and are basic leach oligarchs.
              People think that once those die out so will their legacy. But no, them not being taken out guarantees the coming of next generation of oligarchs,their children or younger cronies.
              As long as those are left standing there will be no future for good economy in Armenia.
              The only way to change situation is to take those out either by law or by eliminating physically.
              How can Manvel and Seyran be deputies in parliament when they even don't have basic schooling?
              This is a joke.
              Unless I see those gone, I can never believe that anything has been changed in Armenia.

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                Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                Those 3, Manvel, Surik and Seyran are in nature bullish brutes who used the first war to get to positions they never deserve.
                They are responcible for plunder and murder of people. Just because their sons did not serve n the military, makes them demagogues of worst kind.
                They have degraded national morale and are basic leach oligarchs.
                People think that once those die out so will their legacy. But no, them not being taken out guarantees the coming of next generation of oligarchs,their children or younger cronies.
                As long as those are left standing there will be no future for good economy in Armenia.
                The only way to change situation is to take those out either by law or by eliminating physically.
                How can Manvel and Seyran be deputies in parliament when they even don't have basic schooling?
                This is a joke.
                Unless I see those gone, I can never believe that anything has been changed in Armenia.
                Well, concerning Seyran and Manvel, it has been worse.
                Just after the killing of Vazken, to "buy peace" , Kocharyan and Serj appointed the guys of the "other camp', to well famed posts... at once we discovered 4 vice defense ministers...
                We had Manvel, the illletrate as Vice DM of the Republic of Armenia! There were scandals every day. One day he stormed drunk and armed the HQ of Armavia, to force his mistress as chief secretary or boss of the waitresses??
                The other day, oficially representing Armenia in Per Lachez Antranik's repatriation, dead drunk, shouldering Antranik's coffin....

                And Seyran was the commander of the III Army. When you consider what he was in charge of as strategic sectors, you just can't beleive....

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                    I cannot believe what I am reading.. people are defending this guy and his two murderous sons actions because of a portrait in his living room?

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