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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    edited : not linked to military thread
    Last edited by haydavid; 03-01-2017, 10:05 AM. Reason: derailing the discussion

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by armnuke View Post
      The graph I posted means we perceive things worse than they are.
      Simply we should perceive it as they are to make our lives easier.
      There's no other explanation, very clear.
      When I saw this charts I was a bit forgiving to the authorities, and critical to myself for exagerating things until I realised Moldova was very simmilar to Armenia.

      Alarm bells rang.

      Having seen the Source: European Bank for Reconstruction and Development my thoughts were this organisation is corrupt and persuing political goals.

      Just for the record due to corruption this country ( Moldova) is bankrupt.

      Its reserves has been depleted with a 1 BILLION euro fraud.

      Nobody can identify where these funds have gone ( dissapeared ), as usual polititians accusing each other without any conclusion.

      There were huge demonstrations to come out of Euro treaties and join the euroAsian mob.

      Do I need to say more.

      .
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Մտահղացման համաձայն` հնարավոր է օդային հարձակում Երեւանի վրա. ԱԻՆ վարժանքները







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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post
          When I saw this charts I was a bit forgiving to the authorities, and critical to myself for exagerating things until I realised Moldova was very simmilar to Armenia.

          Alarm bells rang.

          Having seen the Source: European Bank for Reconstruction and Development my thoughts were this organisation is corrupt and persuing political goals.

          Just for the record due to corruption this country ( Moldova) is bankrupt.

          Its reserves has been depleted with a 1 BILLION euro fraud.

          Nobody can identify where these funds have gone ( dissapeared ), as usual polititians accusing each other without any conclusion.

          There were huge demonstrations to come out of Euro treaties and join the euroAsian mob.

          Do I need to say more.

          .
          My goal from tje post is not to make you or anyone feel sympathy towards the authorities, please don't take it that way.
          Almost everyone I meet in Armenia nags and complains often about issues that I believe are not bad to that extent.
          As Mher wrote once, even the younger generation do not pick up their smartphone to google a fact about the country, but rather repeat what everyone says.
          Moldova is fairly represented with about 25% of the respondents saying they have experience corruption as opposed to Armenia which shows around 11%. That's more than double for Moldova.
          The institution is not corrupt as you mentioned in your post, they have nothing to gain from Armenia by representing it as better.
          It's a simple study and those are the results.
          http://www.ebrd.com/home

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            The chart's headline is " ... by country". It seams they are selective of the countries.
            Attached is a better study while covering all countries and types of corruptions.

            https://ourworldindata.org/corruption/

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Մարտի 1-ին մահացել է հունվարին վիրավորված զինծառայող
              Մարտ 1, 2017
              http://razm.info/97345

              Մարտի 1-ին թշնամու հրետակոծությունից զոհվել է ՊԲ զինծառայող
              Մարտ 1, 2017
              http://razm.info/97331

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Կարեն Կարապետյան. Հայրենադարձության վերաբերյալ առաջարկներ ենք սպասում նաեւ Սփյուռքից
                01.03.2017

                https://news.am/arm/news/376257.html

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by shant03 View Post
                  serviceman nver babajanyan killed on same day as planned osce monitoring mission on the line of contact
                  Rest In Peace +++
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                    My goal from tje post is not to make you or anyone feel sympathy towards the authorities, please don't take it that way.
                    Almost everyone I meet in Armenia nags and complains often about issues that I believe are not bad to that extent.
                    As Mher wrote once, even the younger generation do not pick up their smartphone to google a fact about the country, but rather repeat what everyone says.
                    Moldova is fairly represented with about 25% of the respondents saying they have experience corruption as opposed to Armenia which shows around 11%. That's more than double for Moldova.
                    The institution is not corrupt as you mentioned in your post, they have nothing to gain from Armenia by representing it as better.
                    It's a simple study and those are the results.
                    http://www.ebrd.com/home

                    There is a truth of what you say about us nagging too much.
                    I have even seen some that coming to US and not even properly working and on welfare/living almost for free go "Ergire ergir che".
                    But that is only tiny minority here.
                    For Armenians in homeland it comes from what situation they have been for generations. For seventy years they feared, complained silently, cursed. While after genocide diasporans had the chance to recover and prosper, people in Armenia had to go thru revolution, Stalin's gulags and death squads, male population's decimation and starvation in WWII and 10 years after, Brezhnev era stagnation and corruption. And then terrible earthquake and 4 years war again. It's like biblical plagues.
                    It's very hard to fit in normal human brain. The endless black tunnel for generations.
                    Now we expect people there to have gotten up after independence and fixed themselfs quickly?
                    We got problem on two sides. Armenians there want to live like in Europe, without thinking what it takes.
                    And we, diasporans, want people there to behave and be hard working like us, Japanese or Germans without ever considering what state that population is, what it takes to fix it and what duties we have.
                    That is why I keep saying, diaspora is the emotional and behavioral cure for Armenia because it is more conscious and used to capitalism, more hard working, more law abiding and less corrupt. Just like it has been.
                    We got to get people on both sides accept that diaspora must get involved there not only with donations, but socially, economically and in government too.
                    Last edited by Hakob; 03-01-2017, 01:53 PM.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      _^^^^
                      I couldn't agree more. Those who think Hayr should have gotten over all the evil we just experienced are wrong.
                      Robots can do that, not real people.
                      Ya, we need lots of help and time. There is only us left. Get over it ? No.
                      Jakob's right, it's going to take all of us. But that's not what our enemy's want, or this world wants, or our gd dmnd oligarchies want.
                      More understanding between those few that remain and those that are scattered. And TIME.
                      Scars don't heal and are not to be forgotten.
                      HARK

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