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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Azad View Post
    Also Lori you do not make sense! If we somehow take that region from the turk (maybe by war?) against 90 million ... how are we going to use the Bosphorus Strait?
    War would be unlikely but a last resort. We would have to wait for that rotten building the Turks call a nation to fall. Their society is as unsteady as Michael J. Fox. How many coups have they had in the last 100 years? How many borderline civil wars? How many separatist conficts with the Kurds? Its only a matter of time. We could take our lands back in the midst of a Turkish civil war.

    Negotiation or be included in a Karabakh peace settlement. (If such a god forsaken thing would ever happen) would be the most likely outcome. However, that starts with official claims to those provinces. Which should have been done the second Turkey set up that blockade.

    Bosphorus access is another whole story. The foremost goal of having a shore is access to allies such as Russia and the rest of the Black Sea nations.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Lori View Post
      Negotiation or be included in a Karabakh peace settlement.
      You have been saying this for a while now. The day there will be negotiations on Western Armenia peace settlement will be the day there will be one with the azeris.

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          What do you guys think of Karen karapetyan, we know his career of being a prime minister is going to end when the elections happen and sargisyan will take his place but what do you think he can do in just 1 year?

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              Originally posted by DieHard69 View Post
              What do you guys think of Karen karapetyan, we know his career of being a prime minister is going to end when the elections happen and sargisyan will take his place but what do you think he can do in just 1 year?
              The guy seems legit and professional. He can do alot within a year by starting programs, changing some laws. etc...
              Other than that I don't really know.
              http://investmentprojects.am/ Some Interesting projects.
              His latest Interview in English:
              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reu...h-2018-PM.html

              As to the previous subject: You can see this EBRD document: Map of the north-south highway + potential extension through Georgia Click image for larger version

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                  Originally posted by Lori View Post
                  Industralizing? What do you think Armenia is? 1920s Ukraine or Russia? That was a hurdle passed decades ago. Djibouti and Somalia? Don't even try it, those are failed states and in everlasting civil war. Nothing in common with Armenia's situation. A very poor comparison. South Korea is an economic East Asian power and has a significant military industry, they are far from a "Failed state". North Korea is a failed state since it is communist with no resources to speak of and strong and unneeded social repression. Not comparable either.

                  You are under the impression that beating the Turks, taking back our lands, and bettering the economy are mutually exclusive. This is wrong. To better the Armenian economic situation, you must beat the Turks who hinder Armenia's economic progress through an unlawful and warlike blockade on the nation. A land corridor to the Black Sea is existential for the nation. Access to the world and Armenia's allies should be the foremost goal. I do not know why you would think such a goal is its own ideology or is a distraction from anything. It is a remedy. A righting of the wrongs done to the nation over the past 100 years. I'd assume the "geographic expansion distraction" you speak of also includes Artsakh's struggle? Is not that geographic expansion. It seems like Armenia's borders are spreading there!


                  You can't make what you have better and more wealthy if what you have is nothing.
                  I think you're some kind of kid that is not really looking at the situation realistically. Armenia's borders, even Karabakh's borders, are more or less not going to expand. You're not going to conquer Turkey or take back Javakh and cut out some kind of land corridor to the Black Sea. Even then, how are you going to build a port and road without constant threat of it being attacked and retaken? What exactly are you thinking?

                  However, if you are able to industrialize Armenia, not the smoke stack steel producing imagery you have in your teenage brain, but industrialize int the sense that you have a competitive, export oriented economy, then you might be able to raise Armenia's GDP from $8000 PPP to $20-30,000 PPP. If Armenia can have a higher wealth PPP than its immediate neighbors, then you change the dynamics. You have foreign capital flowing into Armenia, not Georgia or Azerbaijan. You have Armenia being the chosen partner in the Caucasus, not Georgia or Azerbaijan.

                  You definitely can have an export oriented economy around technology and pharmaceuticals. You can definitely have light industry that specializes in avionics (UAVs and Rocketry). You definitely can do all this. But you're just being some kind of arm chair general thinking a nation of 3million people can somehow fight its way militarily to dominating the caucasus. Armenia should first focus on how to become an economic tiger.

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                    Originally posted by Zeytun View Post
                    The guy seems legit and professional. He can do alot within a year by starting programs, changing some laws. etc...
                    Other than that I don't really know.
                    http://investmentprojects.am/ Some Interesting projects.
                    His latest Interview in English:
                    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reu...h-2018-PM.html

                    As to the previous subject: You can see this EBRD document: Map of the north-south highway + potential extension through Georgia [ATTACH]3174[/ATTACH]
                    Solar panels and solar power generation is definitely something Armenia has in its advantage. Along with IT and Medicine, we can use these as a driver of exports. The IT sector is on its way reaching 1bln dollars. Imagine the same for biotech and solar panels.

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