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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • #41
    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by ZORAVAR View Post


    It is worth noting the similarities between the Azeri army and the Georgians. Tbilissi’s troops were very well equipped and had received ample training from Western countries. They went into battle with high spirits….at the first sign of trouble they ran like rabbits all the way to their capital.
    And left everything behind for the Russians. So with that said, let them spend!

    Oh and we can do facepaint too:



    Something about their faces tells me they're not into the posing for cameras thing as much, though.
    “There are truths on this side of the Pyrenees, which are falsehoods on the other.”
    Blaise Pascal

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    • #42
      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by D3ADSY View Post
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTzMtfk3v80

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-STkaDIi8Y

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UCXQz3Fjuo

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvlYT9shJcs

      A 4 part series, I am posting it because it includes footage shot of the frontlines from both sides. I think it was part 1 that shows the Azeri side and part 4 that shows the Armenian side. Ignore the bs and bias, I can't find any other video that shows this kind of footage of the frontlines.
      Interesting. The video presentation was from the Armenian side half way into the second part and on. But you know that Crusader is going to use this as further evidence that you are a Turk
      Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

      Նժդեհ


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      • #43
        Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by D3ADSY View Post
        Oh and we can do facepaint too:

        I love this pic. Notice the Armenian-made K-3 'Bullpup' on the vehicle.
        Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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        • #44
          Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Yep.

          In this one they have the Serbian M-93 anti-material rifle.

          “There are truths on this side of the Pyrenees, which are falsehoods on the other.”
          Blaise Pascal

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          • #45
            Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Badass!
            Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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            • #46
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by D3ADSY View Post
              And left everything behind for the Russians. So with that said, let them spend!

              Oh and we can do facepaint too:



              Something about their faces tells me they're not into the posing for cameras thing as much, though.
              All this reminds me of that time during the war when Robert Kocharian made a statement at a public forum where he thanked Heidar Aliyev for arming both armies and how he appreciated all the fine equipment that was be utilized by the Armenians in Artsakh.

              {Russia has recently had a similar experience with their NATO trophies from Georgia}

              Journalists, pundits, analysts, etc in Azerbaboonistan, US, Turkey, Israel seem to overlook a few things:

              1. Though the Azeris are likely better trained and equipped presently than they were in the mid-90's; so are the Armenian forces. The Armenians have not been sitting around resting on their laurels. They have been training vigorously for defense and counter-attack. The Armenians know what tactic and material will work and have likewise been utilizing what they need.
              2. The Azeris spending billions and procuring modern, western armaments but they still cannot repair or modify most of it. Not to mention that a portion will most certainly be captured and used against them on the battlefield. Most certainly a good portion of their military budget is also now sitting in Swiss bank accounts.
              3. Armenians are buying equipment from Russia which they can repair and modify themselves. If the war starts again, you can be certain that they will be resupplied for free. The Azeris have purchased material used for attack whereas Armenians are purchasing material for defense. If I was fighting in defense to maintain a status quo, I would spend my money on air-defense, anti-tank equipment, etc.
              3. The Armenians are dug in a holding a defensive line {3 lines actually}. These lines have been reinforced for many years. The Azeris will have to hit hard and fast with overwhelming force. Even if they are able to penetrate the defensive lines at certain weak points they will be very prone to counter-attacks in wooded and mountainous areas/high ground. They will need at least 75% more men and equipment than the defender and have to quickly consolidate and re-supply their forces. If, and I mean "IF", the Azeris are successful during their initial attack, the counter attack will again push them back and if that does not work, their occupation will be short and very painful. In the case of the resumptions of wide-scale hostilities, which ever side attacks will have abundant casualties and any victory would be a costly one. The one weakness that the Armenians have is civilian areas close to the frontline. Yet, the Azeris should not overlook that Azeri civilian areas close to the front will also be hit in tandem thus creating more refugees.

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              • #47
                Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by RSNATION View Post
                All this reminds me of that time during the war when Robert Kocharian made a statement at a public forum where he thanked Heidar Aliyev for arming both armies and how he appreciated all the fine equipment that was be utilized by the Armenians in Artsakh.

                {Russia has recently had a similar experience with their NATO trophies from Georgia}

                Journalists, pundits, analysts, etc in Azerbaboonistan, US, Turkey, Israel seem to overlook a few things:

                1. Though the Azeris are likely better trained and equipped presently than they were in the mid-90's; so are the Armenian forces. The Armenians have not been sitting around resting on their laurels. They have been training vigorously for defense and counter-attack. The Armenians know what tactic and material will work and have likewise been utilizing what they need.
                2. The Azeris spending billions and procuring modern, western armaments but they still cannot repair or modify most of it. Not to mention that a portion will most certainly be captured and used against them on the battlefield. Most certainly a good portion of their military budget is also now sitting in Swiss bank accounts.
                3. Armenians are buying equipment from Russia which they can repair and modify themselves. If the war starts again, you can be certain that they will be resupplied for free. The Azeris have purchased material used for attack whereas Armenians are purchasing material for defense. If I was fighting in defense to maintain a status quo, I would spend my money on air-defense, anti-tank equipment, etc.
                3. The Armenians are dug in a holding a defensive line {3 lines actually}. These lines have been reinforced for many years. The Azeris will have to hit hard and fast with overwhelming force. Even if they are able to penetrate the defensive lines at certain weak points they will be very prone to counter-attacks in wooded and mountainous areas/high ground. They will need at least 75% more men and equipment than the defender and have to quickly consolidate and re-supply their forces. If, and I mean "IF", the Azeris are successful during their initial attack, the counter attack will again push them back and if that does not work, their occupation will be short and very painful. In the case of the resumptions of wide-scale hostilities, which ever side attacks will have abundant casualties and any victory would be a costly one. The one weakness that the Armenians have is civilian areas close to the frontline. Yet, the Azeris should not overlook that Azeri civilian areas close to the front will also be hit in tandem thus creating more refugees.

                I don't think Armenia and Armenians are lulled into a false sense of security and we should not kid ourselves that a resumption of hostilities will be any less brutal than the first war, but I do believe the Armenian military has been working from the assumption that they will have to have all contingencies covered.

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                • #48
                  Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  What would be the chances of Russia explicitly supporting and/or moving into Artsakh Georgia-style if the Azerbaboons invade?
                  «Արթուն մնացէ'ք եւ աղօթք արէ'ք, որպէսզի փորձութեան մէջ չընկնէք:»

                  Մատթէոս 26:41

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                  • #49
                    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
                    What would be the chances of Russia explicitly supporting and/or moving into Artsakh Georgia-style if the Azerbaboons invade?
                    Directly? Not sure. They will most likely continue to equip the Armenians and night help clandestinely. If the Azeris attack Armenia directly, they will are bound by CTSO treaty to help Armenia.

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                    • #50
                      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
                      What would be the chances of Russia explicitly supporting and/or moving into Artsakh Georgia-style if the Azerbaboons invade?

                      I don't see the Russians directly intervening except in an extraordinary case. If they did, they could kiss goodbye to any reapproachment with azerbaijan, but then again that may not matter cause Russia or Armenia would likely control azeri pipelines and/or baku.
                      For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                      to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



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