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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    This is Too Serious..let them continue and Iran will start a new war(other than religious war) with azeries.

    Նոյեմբեր 10, 2011 | 13:24

    Իսրայելի, ԱՄՆ-ի եւ Մեծ Բրիտանիայի հատուկ ծառայություններն Ադրբեջանի տարածքից Իրանի դեմ աշխատանքներ են իրականացնում, պնդում է Իրանի Մեջլիսի անվտանգության եւ արտաքին քաղաքականության հարցերի հանձնաժողովի անդամ Սոհրա Էլահիանը:

    Նա հայտարարել է, որ «Մոսադը», Կենտրոնական հետախուզական վարչությունն ու ՄԻ-6-ը լրտեսական կենտրոններ են ստեղծել Ադրբեջանում, Թուրքմենստանում եւ Իրանին սահմանակից այլ երկրներում: Նրանք տեղեկատվություն են հավաքում Իրանի մասին, հաղորդում է ««Mehr» գործակալությունը:

    Պատգամավորը նախազգուշացրել է, որ այդ լրտեսական կենտրոնները սադրանքներ է պատրաստում Իրանի պետության եւ քաղաքացիների դեմ:

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      something i cant understand!!!A Su 25 is approximately 10-12million $...while look at this one...


      Նոյեմբեր 09, 2011 | 13:50

      ԱՄՆ-ն առաջին անգամ որոշում է կայացրել F-16 կործանիչների ծրագրային կոդերը հանձնել այլ երկրի։

      Թուրքական Milliyet-ի փոխանցմամբ՝ ԱՄՆ-ը Թուրքիային է տրամադրելու Lockheed Martin ընկերության կողմից արտադրված F-16 (Fighting falcon) ռազմական օդանավերի ծրագրային կոդերը։ Թուրքիան երկար տարիներ ԱՄՆ-ից պահանջում էր այդ կոդերը։ Կոդերն ստանալուց հետո Թուրքիան կարող է օդանավերի մասերն ինքը արտադրել եւ նույնիսկ դրանք վաճառել ուրիշ երկրների։

      ԱՄՆ-ից 60 մլն դոլարով եւս 30 նոր F-16C տիպի կորածանիչներ գնած Թուրքիան իր F-16 կործանիչների պարկով ԱՄՆ-ի հետ դարձավ աշխարհի ամենաշատ F-16 ունեցող երկիրը։

      ԱՄՆ-ը մինչ այժմ արտադրել է 4 հազար 200 F-16, որոնք համալրում են աշխարհի 26 երկրների ռազմաօդային ուժերը։

      Վաշինգտոնի եւ Անկարայի միջեւ կնքված 2,9 մլրդ դոլար արժողությամբ համաձայնագրով ԱՄՆ-ը կարդիականացնի Թուրքիային պատկանող 213 F-16 կործանիչ, որոնց ամեն մեկի վրա կծախսվի 5,2 մլն դոլար։ Այդ պայմանգրի կետերից մեկն էլ այն էր, որ ԱՄՆ-ը համաձայնվել է Թուրքիային հանձնել F-16-ի ծրագրային կոդերը։



      60million $ and 30 F-26 aircrafts??? with 60million $ Armenia can buy only 5 or 6 Su-25...(without taking into consideration special offers for Armenia)...what a huge difference...then y we wont buy F-16 since our budget is not too big?!!

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Նոյեմբեր 10, 2011 | 11:52

        Վիրավորվել է Ադրբեջանի Պաշտպանության նախարարության` Բաքվում տեղակայված n զորամասին զինվորը:

        Ադրբեջանական գործակալության հաղորդմամբ, ազգային բանակի զինվոր, 18-ամյա Էմին Սամանդարլին կրակել է տաբելային զենքից` չպահպանելով անվտանգության կանոններ: Դրա հետեւանքով նա վնասվածք է ստացել ուսի շրջանում:

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Նոյեմբեր 10, 2011 | 17:50

          Չնայած սկանդալների շքերթին, Մոլդովայի Հանրապետության ղեկավարությունը մտադիր է Հայաստանի իր պատվիրատուին հանձնել զինամթերքի եւ սպառազինության մնացած մասը: Ինչպես հայտնում է moldnews-ը, այդ մասին Մոլդովայի խորհրդարանի ազգային անվտանգության, պաշտպանության եւ հանրային կարգի հանձնաժողովի լսումների արդյունքում հայտարարել է պաշտպանության նախարար Վիտալի Մարինուցան:

          Նա կոչ է արել պատգամավորներին հիմնվել «փաստերի եւ իրավական փաստաթղթերի», այլ ոչ «լրատվամիջոցների հաղորդագրությունների վրա»: Միեւնույն ժամանակ նա համոզմունք է հայտնել, որ մոլդովական սպառազինության վաճառքի գործարքը կհասցվի ավարտին, քանի որ «չկա որեւէ իրավական փաստաթուղթ, որը կարգելեր դա»:

          «Հուսով եմ, որ ամենակարճ ժամկետումպայմանագրի իրականացումը կշարունակվի: Այդ պայմանագրում կասկածելի կետեր չկան, եւ, կարծում եմ, մենք պետք է այն մինչեւ վերջ հասցնենք»,- ասել է Մարինուցան:

          Միեւնույն ժամանակ նա հրաժարվել է նշել` արդյոք միջնորդը նույն լիտվական ընկերությունն է, որի արտոնագիրը մտադիր են ետ կանչել Լատվիայի իշխանությունները:

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Armenia: Flying Blind with $400 Million Defense Budget
            November 10, 2011 - 11:05am, by Gayane Abrahamyan Armenia EurasiaNet's Weekly Digest Armenian Politics Nagorno Karabakh
            Where does the need for state secrecy end, and the public interest in governmental transparency begin? That’s a question posed increasingly by Armenian civil society activists in reaction to news that Yerevan’s defense budget is increasing by 5.6 percent.

            On November 1, parliament increased Armenia’s 2012 military budget to 150 billion drams (about $400 million) -- the country’s biggest annual defense outlay ever. But how exactly – and how efficiently -- the ministry will spend those additional funds is proving to be anybody’s guess. Defense spending has long been considered off limits to public scrutiny.

            Few Armenians question the need for a strong military; the country has a wobbly cease-fire with Azerbaijan over the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. Energy-rich Azerbaijan’s military budget stands at a massive $1.76 billion (over 1.38 billion manats) for 2012 – an amount that makes many Armenians wonder how their government plans to make the best use of Yerevan’s far more limited financial resources.

            “In a state of frozen war with Azerbaijan, when the opponent’s budget is six times bigger than Armenia’s military budget, a question keeps coming up: ‘How are they [Armenian officials] spending that small budget of ours?’” asked Emma Hunanian, a representative of a non-governmental organization, Soldier and Right, that lobbies for army soldiers’ interests. “Not always are we given the answer to that question.”
            Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian told parliament that the additional funds would be spent on “increasing the number of professional soldiers and the acquisition of new arms and armaments.”

            Any other information is considered out of bounds for public debate. The Chamber of Control, which monitors Armenia’s state budget, periodically makes outraged statements about various government offices’ financial wrongdoings, but it has never publicized any information about the Defense Ministry’s spending habits. A 2010 audit of the ministry was deemed “strictly classified.”

            One civil rights group’s attempt to get answers about the ministry’s budgetary practices met with a broad roadblock. “We were asking for data about the share of the military budget that’s spent on provisions, stationery and household equipment, which cannot be a state secret,” recounted Artur Sakunts, head of the Vanadzor office of the Helsinki Citizens’ Assembly. “However, even through the courts, we were unable to acquire information. It’s a state secret, and there is no way around it.”

            Defense Ministry spokesperson David Karaperian responded that it is only natural for the ministry to keep information about its budget and spending practices classified. “We work openly to the extent that it isn’t threatening to our national security,” Karaperian said.

            But the ministry risks losing public trust by operating in such a closed system, objected Varuzhan Hoktanian, executive director of the Anti-Corruption Center, the Armenian affiliate of anti-corruption watchdog Transparency International. “Questions keep coming up with each passing day, and that lack of trustworthiness can be more damaging than working openly,” Hoktanian said.

            The deaths of 23 army conscripts this year in non-combat-related incidents have raised a major wave of general public distrust toward Armenia’s army, as well as calls for the resignations of President Serzh Sargsyan and Defense Minister Ohanian.
            While opposition political parties have joined in the cries of outrage over the non-combat deaths on conscripts, they routinely sidestep discussions about the military’s budget. Opposition Heritage Party MP Armen Martirosian, a member of parliament’s Financial and Budgetary Committee, commented that he is convinced that “the budget is spent mostly appropriately.”
            “Risks of violations of the law and corruption are somewhere else; for example, commanders abusing their position demand bribes, start businesses, but the budget expenses are mostly incurred as planned, ” Martirosian asserted.

            Independent military expert Artsrun Hovhannissian, a former Defense Ministry employee, meanwhile, asserted that officials are for the most part responsible in their procurement practices. Research that he has carried out over the past decade shows that “although there have been certain cases of financial abuse and administrative shortcomings” in military spending, such abuses have not been “to an extent which could put the country’s military effectiveness at risk.”
            He conceded, however, that “[t]here certainly is a need for creating some control mechanisms, in order for the monies to be put to their best use.”

            Sakunts scoffed at the notion that Defense Ministry officials can be trusted, and that no oversight mechanisms are necessary. “There are no signs of trust-inspiring [behavior] that make us believe [the ministry] has no corruption issues,” he said. He cited a report from one unnamed expert who alleged that the ministry was reporting an official purchase price for “a type of military equipment” that was more than five times the amount actually paid.

            Acting out of a spirit of “ostensible patriotism” and declining to hold the Defense Ministry publicly accountable for its expenditures “might have irrevocable consequences for the development of our military force,” he added.

            Countered military analyst Hovhannisian: “[W]e are in a state of war and the demands of making everything transparent are not justified in this case.”

            Editor's note: Gayane Abrahamyan is a reporter for ArmeniaNow.com in Yerevan.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Why do we feel like we need to question? Don't we see the weapons? All this open up sheet is coming from people who want to know what we have! When is the last time we had to worry about our Army?

              Get with the program, this is syops 101 we are too smart for this. We have the best army in the area and we make our own UAV that is ours. Who else in the area can do so without getting into a partnership or spending money?

              Who who askes just wants to see the cards you are holding..that is it!

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Seriously? They want a balance sheet of the Armenian military at a time of war? These liberal-types are getting really annoying. 23 deaths is very tragic and I wish to see a year with no deaths but there's suicides in EVERY military. There's nutjobs that go on rampages in EVERY military. Some people who are conscripted simply cannot handle the military lifestyle. Keeping deaths at an all-time low 23 in 365 days is major progress already for an ex-USSR country's armed forces. I like that the parents of the dead soldiers keep the pressure on the MoD so they crackdown on these kind of incidents but things like asking for what the army spends is a national secret.
                Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Նոյեմբեր 11, 2011 | 13:58

                  Ամերիկյան հետախուզական Predator անօդաչու 4 թռչող սարքերն արդեն գտնվում են Թուրքիայում գտնվող ամերիկյան Ինջիրլիքի ռազմաբազայում։

                  Թուրքական Beyazgazete-ի փոխանցմամբ՝ ԱՄՆ-ը Թուրքիային 2-ի փոխարեն տվել է 4 Predator։ Ավելի վաղ հայտնի էր դարձել, որ Էրդողանը G-20 համաժողովի ժամանակ Օբամայից պահանջել էր կատարել իր խոսքը եւ Թուրքիա ուղարկել 2 Predator:

                  Նշվում է, որ ամերիկյան հետախուզական սարքերը թռչելու են թուրքական կողմի պահանջով, սակայն հետախուզության տվյալները անմիջապես չեն հանձնվելու Թուրքիային, ինչպես նաեւ թույլ չի տրվելու, որ թուրք անձնակազմը ղեկավարի սարքերը։ Բացի այդ Թուրքիային երաշխիքներ չի տրվել, որ հետախուզության տվյալները 3-րդ երկրի չի հանձնվելու։

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Federate View Post
                    Seriously? They want a balance sheet of the Armenian military at a time of war? These liberal-types are getting really annoying. 23 deaths is very tragic and I wish to see a year with no deaths but there's suicides in EVERY military. There's nutjobs that go on rampages in EVERY military. Some people who are conscripted simply cannot handle the military lifestyle. Keeping deaths at an all-time low 23 in 365 days is major progress already for an ex-USSR country's armed forces. I like that the parents of the dead soldiers keep the pressure on the MoD so they crackdown on these kind of incidents but things like asking for what the army spends is a national secret.
                    All public expenditure has to be audited. A prerequisite to good governance.
                    It is not difficult to see how other countries do it.
                    It does not mean details have to be publicized at all, but action taken on recommendations both financial and organizational/management issues.


                    I find the stupidity of the efforts of “externally” financed NGOs how they prioritize their “good governance” effort/pressure.

                    The reality is you do not need auditing to identify “illegal” economic activity by state personnel who use their authority to circumvent the law.
                    Frequently publicised by opposition media as well as through investigative journalism.

                    It appears such things are simply brushed aside.
                    Yet they want to target one of the most difficult areas to investigate due to security issues.

                    I would not be surprized if there are not enough independent auditors who are also security cleared to do such work.
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Londontsi ,@st orenqneri menq iravunq chunenq arnelu tenc hzor zenqer, dra hamarel rusanstan goyutyun uni yete paterazm lini mec yerkri het,rusastane kpshtpani, bayc adrbejani het menqel karanq mer unecacov...

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