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The Struggle in Javakhk

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  • The Struggle in Javakhk

    Yesterday, a clash broke between Armenians and Georgians at the Armenian village Parvana in Ninotsminda area in Javakhk. The Armenian villagers found a group of Georgians newcomers mowing hay at the village. As the latters explained, the soil (150 hectares in total) was bought at some internet-auction by one of the deputy ministers in Georgia. A fight launched between visitant Georgians and Armenian peasants, and the Georgians left the village... Now situation is tense in Parvanae. The land is the only source of sustenance for the village, and the peasants are not going to give it to somebody.

    Երեկ ծեծկռտուք է տեղի ունեցել Ջավախքի Նինոծմինդայի շրջանի Փարվանա գյուղի հայերի և նրանց հողերը զավթելու նպատակով այդտեղ ժամանած վրացիների միջև: Ինչպես տեղեկացնում է Armar.am կայքի թղթակիցը, վիճաբանության առարկան` Փարվանա գյուղի հայ բնակչությանը պատկանող հողատարածքներն են: Երեկ տեղի բնակչությունը հայտնաբերել է, որ մի խումբ վրացիներ հնձում են իրենց արտերը: Իրենց այդ հանդուգն քայլը վրացիները բացատրել են նրանով, որ ինտերնետ- աճուրդի միջոցով Վրաստանի փոխնախարարներից մեկը գնել է Փարվանա գյուղի հողատարածքներից մոտ 150 հա տարածություն:

    Փարվանա գյուղի բնակիչները տեղյակ չեն եղել «աճուրդի» մասին: Այն մասին, որ իրենք զրկվել են իրենց ընտանիքների եկամուտի միակ աղբյուրը հանդիսացող հողատարածքներից, գյուղացիները տեղեկացել են գյուղ ժամանած վրացիներից, որոնք եկել էին այդ տարածքները հնձելու: Հայ գյուղացիների ու վրացի հնձվորների միջև սկսվել է ծեծկռտուք, որի արդյունքում վրացիները փախել են:

    Ներկայումս Փարվանայում տիրում է բավական լարված իրավիճակ: Տեղի երիտասարդները վճռակամ են` իրենց հողերը պաշտպանելու հարցում: Եվ ինչպես իրենք են ասում, անհրաժեշտության դեպքում պատրաստ են նույնիսկ զենքի դիմել, բայց ոչ մի թիզ հող չեն տա վրացիներին:

    http://armar.am/2009/08/22/%D5%BE%D6...%D5%B4-%D5%A5/
    http://javakhk.livejournal.com/72884.html#comments
    http://www.7or.am/blog/?p=566
    Javakhk

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    Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

    Thanks for reporting this Javakh, please keep us updated. I would like more background information on this topic too if you can provide any. Thanks.
    Last edited by jgk3; 08-22-2009, 01:31 PM.
    I was taught how to think.

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    • #3
      Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

      Those bastar,ds our goverment must ensure a status quo in javak region for the Armenians.
      You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions.

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      • #4
        Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

        I took these photos in Yerevan last month.


        Javakhk is my fatherland


        Javakhk is not Georgia
        "Those who beat their swords into ploughshares will plough for those who didn't"

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        • #5
          Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

          Thank you!

          As to situtio at Parvana village. The "newcomers" has gone. So for now there ae no news. Let's hope they will never come again.
          :-)
          Javakhk

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          • #6
            Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

            I think the next phase in the liberation of our homeland will be Javakh.
            You should never argue with idiots because they will just drag you down to their level....then beat you with experience!!!!!!!

            "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire

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            • #7
              Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

              Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
              I think the next phase in the liberation of our homeland will be Javakh.
              Thank you! I think the best thing to do at the moment (in USA and Europe, where the majority of the members of this forum is) is to distribute information about Javakhk, about Turkish plans of creation of a "corridor" from Turkey to Azerbaijan via Javakhk+Borchalu, etc.
              Javakhk

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              • #8
                Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

                Originally posted by Javakhk View Post
                Thank you! I think the best thing to do at the moment (in USA and Europe, where the majority of the members of this forum is) is to distribute information about Javakhk, about Turkish plans of creation of a "corridor" from Turkey to Azerbaijan via Javakhk+Borchalu, etc.
                Most Europeans couldn't care less, and even if they care their governments wont care. If we want anything done we must do it ourselves.
                You should never argue with idiots because they will just drag you down to their level....then beat you with experience!!!!!!!

                "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire

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                • #9
                  Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

                  Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                  I think the next phase in the liberation of our homeland will be Javakh.
                  I agree that this seems a hell of a lot more possible than taking Nakhitchevan the way things are these days. If Geogria is split up again, Russia might seek to give us Javakhk to limit Turkish expansion in the region. However, nothing is certain and we must be prudent to defend our interests without isolating ourselves. I think the best thing we can do now is to raise awareness (among the diaspora especially) about Javakhk and the struggle of the Armenians there.

                  I strongly encourage the creation of a thread that is dedicated to explaining the history of Javakhk and keeping track of any political and social developments there. Threads like the one we are posting in now would probably be joined to such a thread.
                  I was taught how to think.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Clash at Parvana village in Javakhk

                    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                    I think the next phase in the liberation of our homeland will be Javakh.
                    Surely you don't mean by military force?
                    “There are truths on this side of the Pyrenees, which are falsehoods on the other.”
                    Blaise Pascal

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