Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Armenian-Azeri encounter

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

    Thanks Tigranakert, you said it rather eloquently.
    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
    ---
    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

    Comment


    • #32
      Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

      "Conclusion lampdumb: you are Mr. Bullxxxx. Congratulations. "

      As long as you put Elevators in the message he will understand

      thanks for posting that Tigranakert glad to see that we are doing well in Russia. It is good this brotherly relations we have with them. Now if only more of us Western Armenians understood this it would be that much better.

      Comment


      • #33
        Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

        Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
        Furthermore, an average European also does not see a difference between Armenians and Turks. That is how average people are. Educated Russians, Russians that do matter, Russians that do have control / power, respect Armenians, know who we are, where we come from, and what we contributed. This cannot be said of educated Europeans regarding Armenians.
        You are living in a fantasy world and this is mere hubris.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yAkDde2DPc

        Comment


        • #34
          Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

          Originally posted by retro View Post
          You are living in a fantasy world and this is mere hubris.
          You never lived in the real world, and this is mere rubbish.

          I repeat, an average European, be it a Dutchman, a German, or an Englishman sees and treats an Armenian just as he sees and treats a Turk, there is no difference in this. An "educated" European, (thus Dutchman / Germans etc. in universities and the higher echelons of life), also do not know what an Armenian is, what an Armenian represents, and looks the same way at an Armenian as he looks at another foreigner from Turkey, Egypt or whatever country. The only exception is France, as there is a larger Armenian community, albeit totally assimilated, as in France the encouragement to assimilate into the Western pop-culture is much greater than in Russia, where ethnic diversity is stimulated and cheered at in the higher echelons of life.

          Comment


          • #35
            Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            You never lived in the real world, and this is mere rubbish.

            I repeat, an average European, be it a Dutchman, a German, or an Englishman sees and treats an Armenian just as he sees and treats a Turk, there is no difference in this. An "educated" European, (thus Dutchman / Germans etc. in universities and the higher echelons of life), also do not know what an Armenian is, what an Armenian represents, and looks the same way at an Armenian as he looks at another foreigner from Turkey, Egypt or whatever country. The only exception is France, as there is a larger Armenian community, albeit totally assimilated, as in France the encouragement to assimilate into the Western pop-culture is much greater than in Russia, where ethnic diversity is stimulated and cheered at in the higher echelons of life.
            do majority of armenian russians speak armenian? so far i've only seen one guy, he looked russian, had parents from Artsakh, his parents tought him. he's like a grain in the sand.

            Comment


            • #36
              Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

              Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
              You never lived in the real world, and this is mere rubbish.

              I repeat, an average European, be it a Dutchman, a German, or an Englishman sees and treats an Armenian just as he sees and treats a Turk, there is no difference in this. An "educated" European, (thus Dutchman / Germans etc. in universities and the higher echelons of life), also do not know what an Armenian is, what an Armenian represents, and looks the same way at an Armenian as he looks at another foreigner from Turkey, Egypt or whatever country. The only exception is France, as there is a larger Armenian community, albeit totally assimilated, as in France the encouragement to assimilate into the Western pop-culture is much greater than in Russia, where ethnic diversity is stimulated and cheered at in the higher echelons of life.
              The thing is that Russians have been into contact with Armenians for a much longer time while most Europeans have never been into contact with an Armenian in their life so it is more or less normal that they don't know much about Armenians and Armenia. Most Russians I've met in my life have been very positive towards Armenians and they always start talking about this great Armenian that they have as friend or that they know. One of my best friend's dad was in Kirovakan right after the earthquake as a soldier, and he and his whole family are super positive towards Armenia and Armenians. However there are also some Europeans that do know Armenians and Armenia very well, once I met this judge that knew so much about Armenians and the Armenian genocide.
              Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
              do majority of armenian russians speak armenian? so far i've only seen one guy, he looked russian, had parents from Artsakh, his parents tought him. he's like a grain in the sand.
              Since Armenian is not a world language or a language that is that important it is normal that no one except Armenians speak it, the same goes for Dutch. Not many people outside of the Netherlands and Flanders speak it.
              You should never argue with idiots because they will just drag you down to their level....then beat you with experience!!!!!!!

              "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire

              Comment


              • #37
                Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

                Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
                do majority of armenian russians speak armenian? so far i've only seen one guy, he looked russian, had parents from Artsakh, his parents tought him. he's like a grain in the sand.
                I would say, that from the Armenians living in Russia multiple generations long, the number of them not speaking Armenian is about the same (a bit less) compared to those Armenians living for multiple generations in Western countries (France, US, Greece, etc.). This only counts for the Armenians living in major cities in the North-West of Russia. For Armenians living in Southern-Russia, most of them still speak or understand a dialect of Armenian.

                A big difference compared to Western countries, is that Armenians in Russia have a much closer relationship to their identity, heritage and Armenia (doesn't matter if they speak or not speak Armenian). This is partly because of the closer distance to Armenia itself, partly because of a large, successful Armenian population who live dispersed in Moscow and whose goal is not to show off their fancy cars and be jealous towards each other, as in LA, but to help each other and partly because Russia itself promotes ethnic diversity and supports Armenians keeping their Armenian identity.

                Comment


                • #38
                  Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

                  LA Armenians are a mess. Russian Armenians are much more successful and have better reputation.
                  Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                  ---
                  "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

                    LA Armenians are often a mess. The communities in Boston, NY-NJ, Philly, DC, Michigan, etc are in pretty good shape.
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Re: Armenian-Azeri encounter

                      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                      LA Armenians are often a mess. The communities in Boston, NY-NJ, Philly, DC, Michigan, etc are in pretty good shape.
                      I think it's the weather lol, but also LA culture is very damaging....
                      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                      ---
                      "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X