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  • Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    And it doesn't just effect Armenia but also the inaction in Artsakh.....a show of weakness to Turks to the East and West. An open invitation to open fire.
    That is my greatest worry Eddo, if a revolution happens or civil war, over 150,000 people will be in danger of Azerbaijan.

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    • Re: Politics in Hayastan



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      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Politics in Hayastan

        Originally posted by londontsi View Post


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        Uzumem, uzumem, uzumem.. Aghchik jan yeselem shat baner uzum. The pretty girl said something worth noting. She said we will continue to have great and wonderful speeches in the legislature but they will amount to nothing just like before. I want to make a note here for comparisons sake. Here in USA no one even bothers to make great and wonderful speeches anymore in the legislature houses. Everyday Armenia is slowly becoming more like USA. It is only a matter of time before those wonderful speeches are heard no more.
        Hayastan or Bust.

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        • Re: Politics in Hayastan

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          I think she was critically assessing the structure of the new parliament.

          Among her comments was the return of a large number of non-participating ( in the last parliament ) members.

          If you understand how these individuals are appointed ( not elected ) by their party her comments become more relevant.

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          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • Re: Politics in Hayastan

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
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            I think she was critically assessing the structure of the new parliament.

            Among her comments was the return of a large number of non-participating ( in the last parliament ) members.

            If you understand how these individuals are appointed ( not elected ) by their party her comments become more relevant.

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            It is corruption as usual. You can turn and twist it many ways but corruption is basically the same everywhere. Some forms are more refined than others but fundamentally they are all the same. Those patgamavors are not there to govern, they are there to protect their own interests. Once that task is accomplished they see no need to actually do the governing. Here in USA the patgamavors are actually hired help of those who own the country where as in Armenia the owners are still the patgamavors. American owners have others do their dirty work for them and this is the main difference between the owners of USA and the owners of Armenia. Changing the structure of parliament, going with a prime minister vs a president, democracy vs monarchy vs whatever..makes no difference at all. That is what I have been saying for a long time and that is exactly what she is also saying here. The sad part is that she thinks she knows how things should be but has no clue how to get there or what a good government could be like. Someone mentioned lack of creativity in this forum earlier and that is what we are seeing here. Just complain without any hope or mention or even a thought of a solution...reminds you of anyone else on this forum? This lack of creativity to actually find a solution to anything is a result of the dumbing down effect. This effect is very evident in corrupt societies like USA and Armenia is starting to be similar. I doubt anyone wants change more then I do (not just in Armenia either), but I am so sick of idiots trumpeting revolution without a freakin clue in the world about a solution or consequences. Just listen to her at the end there, she literally sounds like a child...I want, I want, I want......
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • Re: Politics in Hayastan

              Since the decisions are made by one man, talking about solutions would be too academic.

              I agree to the extent that if the outcome of the elections and Parliament members was "random" then the analysis would be more meaningful.

              However, we still need to understand what to expect from "new" parliament.
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              Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
              Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
              Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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              • Re: Politics in Hayastan



                It appears the Republican party has some loose change left from the latest "elections" to apply influence with the opposition MPs.

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                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                • Re: Politics in Hayastan

                  Here is a link to a very very good interview which sheds light on political events, landscape, future.
                  The individuals are well known and even though I have criticized them many times before for representing western influences, in this interview are talking very sober, realistic and eye opening observations without propaganda.
                  All of them have come to accept and find current political realities in Armenia.
                  In this interview these politolog's western convictions are only affecting as a basis of ideas of democratic and national concerns that all of us would agree and have wished in Armenia.
                  No matter their personal affiliations or our displeasure, this interview is the best I have seen lately in enlightening past and future political factors.
                  Their views give us very correct explanations of the contrasts between our (Armenia's) political needs and reality.
                  It's a long interview, over one hour. But be patient and watch. Maybe multiple times.





                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iObS4h...gFoHebSTe3sjbx
                  Last edited by Hakob; 05-18-2017, 09:22 AM.

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                  • Re: Politics in Hayastan



                    A w.hor.e has been given a convent to look after.

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                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • Re: Politics in Hayastan

                      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                      It is corruption as usual. You can turn and twist it many ways but corruption is basically the same everywhere. Some forms are more refined than others but fundamentally they are all the same. Those patgamavors are not there to govern, they are there to protect their own interests. Once that task is accomplished they see no need to actually do the governing. Here in USA the patgamavors are actually hired help of those who own the country where as in Armenia the owners are still the patgamavors. American owners have others do their dirty work for them and this is the main difference between the owners of USA and the owners of Armenia. Changing the structure of parliament, going with a prime minister vs a president, democracy vs monarchy vs whatever..makes no difference at all. That is what I have been saying for a long time and that is exactly what she is also saying here. The sad part is that she thinks she knows how things should be but has no clue how to get there or what a good government could be like. Someone mentioned lack of creativity in this forum earlier and that is what we are seeing here. Just complain without any hope or mention or even a thought of a solution...reminds you of anyone else on this forum? This lack of creativity to actually find a solution to anything is a result of the dumbing down effect. This effect is very evident in corrupt societies like USA and Armenia is starting to be similar. I doubt anyone wants change more then I do (not just in Armenia either), but I am so sick of idiots trumpeting revolution without a freakin clue in the world about a solution or consequences. Just listen to her at the end there, she literally sounds like a child...I want, I want, I want......
                      That is why robots are better off ruling us, because at least they have one objective, make there country successful rather than a human.

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