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  • Hakob
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    Originally posted by Serjik View Post
    Yawn*

    Just go back to your "opozicia" meetings will ya
    Actually, Serjik, with your posts and abuses you make Armenia look bad.
    I, am criticizing but when necessary defending.
    Problem between you and me is, I don't think that government is all about Armenia. Just part of it only, and increasingly with worsening record.
    Criticising it actually helps Armenia.
    You have seen how much I am against maydan in Armenia.
    But this government must change or go away. There have to be fluid and responsive government that depends on people's suppprt, honesty, good ethics and vision. I don't give a f to western culture. But I this is not right in Armenia.
    It has been a year since Karapetian came in. I can see his efforts. But has it gotten better? You should care that last year was a record in emigration. And that is a government statistic. That says it all.
    People like yo can hush and shut the critics (let's suppose), but does it solve anything? Emigration gets bigger. Government needs to bring in money to avoid catastrophe, but even if criticism was totally killed, nobody is stupid to take in their hard earned millions to հաստավիզ, parasites to gobble them.
    Believe me there was money poring in, but as years went by and people outside learned to what happens and who does it, it has dried.
    Like Karapetian promised 3.5 billion in investment but after one year only 36 mln. A joke. One pretty face and business like prime minister is not enough, it seems. Everywhere they see what's happening inside we'll.
    So instead of acting like bully here. Talk facts and if you cannot take it, don't talk rude.
    My only concern now is that Serj do not become prime minister in '18. He depends too much on oligarkhs and oligarkhs have too much power on government.
    Those half literate bullies have to go.

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  • HyeSocialist
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    Originally posted by Hakob View Post

    Look what you are posting. Who is the maniac?
    Have you ever been in traffic schools? I have.
    If somebody is dead, an 11 year old innocent girl (decapitated by hammer driver), there will never be any 50/50. And you're asking me to shut up and get a life? You should go and talk to that girl's parents.
    F the Jews, why are you bringing them here?
    the law here and in Europe, Japan, most of the world and most importantly in Armenia says " if you cannot stop on time, you are speeding or under DUI or careless. It's an involuntary mandlaughter any way you look.
    I am not even talking about it's abvious on video. White car is moving towards middle for 2-3 seconds. Hammer just flies in with a fast speed.
    But nobody is blind.
    let me ask you something. Why aren't you getting upset at the idea of blaming the white car as something that could be against Armenia, and trying all you can to blame it?
    you know it that the hammer is a richer guy and white car is poorer right? So when we start criticizing and saying that hammer will not get the blame because of corruption, you get offended.
    No saying wait, let the court decide and then talk. You automatically protect and defend it because you know too that he is not going to get it right way and somebody in Armenia is going to scream that there is no justice. You never see how absurd you behave right?
    Serjik is like the Armenian version of a Donald Trump supporter. It's useless to argue with a troll. They have a magical power of annoying everyone but are cursed to never get laid by a woman.

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  • Serjik
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    Yawn*

    Just go back to your "opozicia" meetings will ya

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  • Hakob
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    Originally posted by Serjik View Post
    Oh just shove it will ya all. You guys are on drugs at best it will be 50-50 fault between the two. Stuff like this goes to court in the states and jew lawyers fight it out. You dont know how fast the hummer was going you dont know the speed limit on the road you dont know what traffic laws exist there. Wont be surprised if there arent any laws for this kind of thing there because the country is young and its learning things through painful experiences like this. What we dont need is obsessive maniacs like hakob, hyesocialist and vrej1915 looking for every opportunity to attack the Armenian government. Get a life guys, stop going to your stupid Armenian Renaissance meeting trust me there aint going to be a revolution in Armenia youll sooner have one in Amerika LOL
    Look what you are posting. Who is the maniac?
    Have you ever been in traffic schools? I have.
    If somebody is dead, an 11 year old innocent girl (decapitated by hammer driver), there will never be any 50/50. And you're asking me to shut up and get a life? You should go and talk to that girl's parents.
    F the Jews, why are you bringing them here?
    the law here and in Europe, Japan, most of the world and most importantly in Armenia says " if you cannot stop on time, you are speeding or under DUI or careless. It's an involuntary mandlaughter any way you look.
    I am not even talking about it's abvious on video. White car is moving towards middle for 2-3 seconds. Hammer just flies in with a fast speed.
    But nobody is blind.
    let me ask you something. Why aren't you getting upset at the idea of blaming the white car as something that could be against Armenia, and trying all you can to blame it?
    you know it that the hammer is a richer guy and white car is poorer right? So when we start criticizing and saying that hammer will not get the blame because of corruption, you get offended.
    No saying wait, let the court decide and then talk. You automatically protect and defend it because you know too that he is not going to get it right way and somebody in Armenia is going to scream that there is no justice. You never see how absurd you behave right?
    Last edited by Hakob; 09-11-2017, 03:17 PM.

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  • Serjik
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    Oh just shove it will ya all. You guys are on drugs at best it will be 50-50 fault between the two. Stuff like this goes to court in the states and jew lawyers fight it out. You dont know how fast the hummer was going you dont know the speed limit on the road you dont know what traffic laws exist there. Wont be surprised if there arent any laws for this kind of thing there because the country is young and its learning things through painful experiences like this. What we dont need is obsessive maniacs like hakob, hyesocialist and vrej1915 looking for every opportunity to attack the Armenian government. Get a life guys, stop going to your stupid Armenian Renaissance meeting trust me there aint going to be a revolution in Armenia youll sooner have one in Amerika LOL

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  • Hakob
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    Originally posted by Serjik View Post
    In any country the guy making that illegal turn would be at fault for the accident cuz he caused the accident by blocking on coming traffic. But you guys are so mentally disturbed with your hate of our leaders that you are looking to making up any kind of bullxxxx to prove that our government is bad. Amazing how mentally retarded people can be LOL

    And Surik is not a "oligarch" he bakes LAVASH for a living LOL
    Serjik, You are totally wrong. I have had a very similar case here, without a death, that the driver of the car similar to hammer was held 100 responsible. The law says any car in his line has to be driving under speed limit and keeping distance of other cars and stopping in case obstacles and pedestrians are in line.
    The other, white car would be fined as guilty of traffic violation of crossing double lines.
    But the hammer would be charged for involuntary manslaughter resulting from traffic violation of speeding.
    So don't reinvent the laws because you yourself are a retard.
    Last edited by Hakob; 09-10-2017, 08:17 PM.

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  • Azad
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    Originally posted by Serjik View Post
    In any country the guy making that illegal turn would be at fault for the accident cuz he caused the accident by blocking on coming traffic.
    Not true! Most countries will assign a % of fault at each parties.
    The guy did block the traffic and it was stupidity. The "traffic" is not a missile shooting range. The flying boy should be at 70% fault the other blocking should be at 30%.

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  • Serjik
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    In any country the guy making that illegal turn would be at fault for the accident cuz he caused the accident by blocking on coming traffic. But you guys are so mentally disturbed with your hate of our leaders that you are looking to making up any kind of bullxxxx to prove that our government is bad. Amazing how mentally retarded people can be LOL

    And Surik is not a "oligarch" he bakes LAVASH for a living LOL
    Last edited by Serjik; 09-09-2017, 07:55 AM.

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  • Vrej1915
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    Remind: the son of the Mayor of Hrazda, 17 years old, used without Prava the official car of his father, and killed an innocent pedestrian.
    Yet he is not only not in jail, nor his father if he is not responsible for his acts... but rather invited to Presidential Palace, to receive a Gold Medal for his exceptional brain abilities....
    And yes, the minister defending this is a Dashnag......

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    Իսկ ինչո՞ւ պետք է Հրազդանի քաղաքապետի որդին ոսկե մեդալով չպարգևատրվեր, զարմացավ կրթության նախարարը

    • Lragir.am
    • Ներքին կյանք - 07 Սեպտեմբերի 2017,

    Կրթության և գիտության նախարար Լևոն Մկրտչյանը կառավարության այսօրվա նիստից հետո լրագրողների հարցին ի պատասխան զարմացավ՝ իսկ ինչո՞ւ պետք է Հրազդանի քաղաքապետի որդին ոսկե մեդալով չպարգևատրվեր:



    «Դուք գիտե՞ք, որ ազատազրկման մեջ գտնող մարդիկ անգամ ունեն իրավունքներ, այդ թվում՝ կրթությանիրավունք: Եթե մեկն ազատազրկված է ու գիտական առաջընթաց է ցուցաբերում, նրան դրա համարպարգևատրում են ազատազրկման վայրում: Երկուհարթություն մի խառնեք իրար», ասաց նախարարը:



    Հիշեցնենք, որ Հրազդանի քաղաքապետ Արամ Դանիելյանի որդին օրերս նախագահական նստավայրում Սերժ Սարգսյանի կողմից ոսկե մեդալով էր պարգևատրվել: Նա անչափահաս է և վերջերս հոր ծառայողական մեքենայով, առանց վարորդական իրավունքի, վրաերթի էր ենթարկել մի քաղաքացու, սակայն չէր ձերբակալվել:



    Լրագրողների հարցին, թե Սերժ Սարգսյանի կողմից այսպարգևատրումը կարելի՞ է անպատժելիության մեսիջ ընկալել, նախարարը նման պատասխան տվեց. “Իսկ եթե պատժեինք ու երեխաին զրկեինք մեդալից, շատ ավելի մեծ հարված չէինք հասցնի՞ մեր հասարակությանը: Մարդը կատարում է քրեական բնույթի խնդիր, և դու նրան պատժում ես իր ուսումնառության դաշտում: Ինքը գիտակցաբա՞ր է արել, դա մեծ դժբախտություն է”:



    Ըստ նախարարի՝ անկախ նրանից, անձը պաշտոնյայի որդի է, թե ոչ, ոսկե մեդալն ստանում է իր գիտելիքի հիման վրա: Նրա խոսքով՝ պաշտոնյաների երեխաները նույնպես երեխաներ են, ինչպես մյուսներինը և ենթարկվում են Հայաստանում գործող օրենքներին:



    “Զգուշացիր ավտոմեքենայից պահը հիշո՞ւմ եք, ազատազրկման վայրից բերեն ինքն իր Համլետը կարդա, հետ գնա ազատազրկման վայր: Ուրեմն եթե մեկը դժբախտության մեջ ա կամ քրեական հանցանք ա կատարել, հանենք ամբողջությամբ ոչնչացնե՞նք”, հարցադրում արեց նա:


    Մանրամասները տեսանյութում

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  • Vrej1915
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    Արմեն Աշոտյանի ծառայողական ավտոմեքենան ինչ նպատակով էր գիշերը երթեւեկում. ԱԺ-ն լռում է

    2017-09-08

    armtimes.com-ը գրում է. Երեկ կեսգիշերի սահմաններում հայտնի դարձավ, որ Ազգային ժողովի պատգամավոր, ԱԺ արտաքին հարաբերությունների մշտական հանձնաժողովի նախագահ Արմեն Աշոտյանին սպասարկող ծառայողական ավտոմեքենայի մասնակցությամբ Երեւանում տեղի է ունեցել ճանապարհատրանսպորտային պատահար:

    Ավտովթարի դեպքը եղել է սեպտեմբերի 6-ին՝ Այվազովսկու փողոցում` «Էրեբունի» թանգարանի դիմաց՝ ժամը 23:00-ի սահմաններում:

    Աշոտյանն այդ ժամանակ արտերկրում էր: Toyota Camry մակնիշի եւ 011 HH 01 պետհամարանիշի ավտոմեքենան վարել է Մանվել Գաբրիելյանը, իսկ սրահում գտնվել է Ալբերտ Միրզախանյան անուն-ազգանունով ուղեւոր: Վթարի հետեւանքով նրանք երկուսն էլ տեղափոխվել են «Էրեբունի» բժշկական կենտրոն: Բարեբախտաբար, առողջությանը հասցված վնասներ նրանց մոտ չի հայտնաբերվել: Բուժհաստատությունից տեղեկացանք, որ վարորդն ու ուղեւորը չեն հոսպիտալացվել, եւ անհրաժեշտ հետազոտություններ անցնելուց հետո գնացել են:

    Բայց այս պատահարն առաջ է բերում մի շարք հարցեր. Ազգային ժողովի հաշվեկշռում գտնվող եւ Արմեն Աշոտյանին սպասարկող ծառայողական ավտոմեքենան ինչ նպատակով էր այդ ժամին երթեւեկում, մանավանդ երբ Աշոտյանը երկրում չէ: Պետական միջոցներով ու հարկատուներիս հաշվին ձեռք բերված, պահպանվող ու լիցքավորվող այդ ավտոմեքենայով արդյոք պետական նշանակության որեւէ հանձնարարությո՞ւն էր կատարվում: Եթե այո, ապա ինչ էր դա իրենից ներկայացնում: Այս եւ այլ հարցերի պատասխանները փորձեցինք ստանալ Ազգային ժողովից:

    Շարունակությունը՝ սկզբնաղբյուր կայքում

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