The Russian Blockade of Armenia

[Red Brigade]

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The Russians are beginning to create many problems to us.We must reduce their influence in Armenia.

The Russians are creating problems to us in the Georgian Samtskhe-Javakheti region, in order to start a conflict between Armenia and Georgia.Such a conflict would have catastrophic consequences to us.Russia is attempting to isolate Armenia in order to make us dependent on them.

1)Russia is promoting the Turkish-Caucasian railway Kars-Akhalkalaki-Tbilisi-Baku, designed to circumvent Armenia or the Iranian-Caucasian Kazvin-Resht-Astara railroad, which also would be built around Armenia.

2)Russia is applying maximum effort not to allow realization of the gas pipeline project between Armenia,Iran and Ukraine.The U.S.A. are against this project as well since they want the total isolation of Iran.This might result Iran to prefer Turkey for the project of the gas pipeline, instead of Armenia.Note that Iran wishes to strengthen ties with Eastern European countries (like Ukraine) in order not to isolate herself.Link regarding Iran and her policy.

3)The Russian inteligence is supporting separatism Samtskhe-Javakheti provoked a growth of tension in Armenian-Georgian relations.There have been progroms against few Gerogians.
Read this "Made in Russia": The Armenian Dynamite for Georgia .

[KotayKoskesh]

if you make a list like that of the problems US is creating for Armenia itll never finish and we need to be allied with one.. im sorry to say but this is a pointless thread

[Dave]

2)Russia is applying maximum effort not to allow realization of the gas pipeline project between Armenia,Iran and Ukraine.The U.S.A. are against this project as well since they want the total isolation of Iran.This might result Iran to prefer Turkey for the project of the gas pipeline, instead of Armenia.Note that Iran wishes to strengthen ties with Eastern European countries (like Ukraine) in order not to isolate herself.Link regarding Iran and her policy.

There are only 2 possible routes for the gas pipeline - Iran, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Ukraine, Europe and Iran, Armenia, Georgia, Black Sea, Ukraine, Europe. Both of those routes pass through Armenia, so I don't think we should worry about that.

[Nemesis]

There's no need to worry about Russia, worry about the west and their very ulterior motives. It would only be in their interest to pull Armenia away from Russia because in so doing, Armenia would stand alone and that's exactly what they want. Armenia is in their way.

[Thai-Samurai]

No way it's China that wants Armenia. If China can pull Armenia toward China, they can use our land because there are so many Chinese and not enough dogs and poodles to eat over there. Plus when the Yang-tze (Yellow River) Floods where are they going to send all that water, Lake Sevan of course. It's already risen a whole meter, CONSPIRACIES!!!!

[Armenian]

Floods where are they going to send all that water, Lake Sevan of course. It's already risen a whole meter, CONSPIRACIES!!!!

I was very happy to see that when I was at the lake a few times during July. Just goes to show you that some "conspiracies" are good.

Regarding this topic of discussion: I wish Armenia had neighbors such as Germany, France or Italy. That harsh fact is that we don't. Our long and bloody history has dealt us a very sad state. A thousand years ago Asia Minor (Anatolia) and the Southern Caucasus was a center of civilization. Today, however, the area in question is a semi-primitive Turko-Islamic cesspool.

Good or bad, today our only two viable neighbors, strategically and economically speaking, are Russian and Iran. The foreign policies of Iran and Russian are more-or-less in union with Armenia's. Regardless of how troubled and problamatic Russia is today, Washington can't be trusted. Washington is in bed with Ankara and Tel-Aviv.

The aforementioned have grand agendas for the region and Armenia simply does not fit in, therefore, it gets in the way. Since they can't attack Armenia like they attacked Serbia and Iraq, they are using other methods - manipulating internal political issues within Yerevan and using lots of money as a lure.

Only fools believe the filth being spewed out of Washington today.

My only wish is for Russia to wake up from its deep sleep and see that a secure and properous Armenia is very crucial to its long term prosperity and survival. As for Iran, they are fine just the way they are. Also, I am hopeing that they get the A-bomb as soon as possible.

[Siamanto]

Regarding this topic of discussion: I wish Armenia had neighbors such as Germany, France or Italy. That harsh fact is that we don't. Our long and bloody history has dealt us a very sad state. A thousand years ago Asia Minor (Anatolia) and the Southern Caucasus was a center of civilization. Today, however, the area in question is a semi-primitive Turko-Islamic cesspool.

I totally agree!

Good or bad, today our only two viable neighbors, strategically and economically speaking, are Russian and Iran. The foreign policies of Iran and Russian are more-or-less in union with Armenia's.

I agree as for Russia and Iran.

Regardless of how troubled and problamatic Russia is today, Washington can't be trusted. Washington is in bed with Ankara and Tel-Aviv.
The aforementioned have grand agendas for the region and Armenia simply does not fit in, therefore, it gets in the way. Since they can't attack Armenia like they attacked Serbia and Iraq, they are using other methods - manipulating internal political issues within Yerevan and using lots of money as a lure.

Only fools believe the filth being spewed out of Washington today.

As for the West - i.e. the EU and/or the US - I would prefer to see a rather balanced and friendly relations that may neutralize - at least - to a certain degree any anti-Armenian agenda! In other words; all depends what would be the costs and what would be the benefits. If beneficial to our interests, yes; otherwise, no.

My only wish is for Russia to wake up from its deep sleep and see that a secure and properous Armenia is very crucial to its long term prosperity and survival.

True. At times, Russia behaves like an employer who does not value the company's human resources!

As for Iran, they are fine just the way they are. Also, I am hopeing that they get the A-bomb as soon as possible.

I find that the West's attitude a bit hypocritical, considering that Israel and Pakistan possess nuclear weapons.

[ArmenianKid]

I find that the West's attitude a bit hypocritical, considering that Israel and Pakistan possess nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE]

And that the US has the largest nuclear stockpile in the world.

[Red Brigade]

if you make a list like that of the problems US is creating for Armenia itll never finish and we need to be allied with one.. im sorry to say but this is a pointless thread

Well i never said that the Americans are any better and no doubt they are causing more problems as well.

The fact is that we should make the Russian influence lesser in Armenia , unless we will become their vassal state.

And this thread is not pointless.Those are facts and the fact is that we have no allies and we should stop being so dependent on Russia, because the Russians are the same pish as the Americans.

[KotayKoskesh]

Well i never said that the Americans are any better and no doubt they are causing more problems as well.

The fact is that we should make the Russian influence lesser in Armenia , unless we will become their vassal state.

And this thread is not pointless.Those are facts and the fact is that we have no allies and we should stop being so dependent on Russia, because the Russians are the same pish as the Americans.

being allied to Russia has numerous advantages for one they just gave weapons to Armenia from their georgian bases.. also they would protect us for sure if any conflict would errupt ....remmeber the cold war the countries that didnt ally with America or Russia are now third world countries... the same stands for now except it only affects the countries who are clsoe to Russia because Russia has lost influence and for America they are allied with the whole earth almost ...there are very few countries in the world that are not allied with either Russia or US ...the countries who are not allied now where the ones who were not allied back then ..some are rich some are poor ... but no country with such a poor economy ( at the current state not to talk about the trumendous inflation rate in Armenia ) can stay un-allied with both of them... dont forget

In the real world, thers no such thing as a true ally ..Russia is not Armenia's friend ..it's it's ally and in my opinion it should stay that way for the best of Armenia ..

just a side note I dont know if anyone lives or has recently been to yerevan... but the Americans are DEFINETLY planning something there ...if you see the embassy its like 2 kilometers long and theyr building a private airstrip in the embassy ( I call that an army base not an embassy but what do I know ) so I dont trust them at all... while the Russians give us weapons.. the americans build bases in our capital

...please state your opinions on this...