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  • ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

    The University of Southern California, aka Trojan Nation, harbors genocide deniers and active supporters of Turkey without any concern that the conduct of these university leaders and members puts negative light on the university (then, again, this is USC we are talking about aka University of Stupid Cheaters).

    Meanwhile professors (e.g. Norman Finkelstein) who believe that the Holocaust has been overplayed get run out of their tenured position at other American universities and face other sanctions.

    Holocaust/Israel critics punished but Armenian Genocide denying Turkey supporters rewarded at collegiate level.

    How can any school of higher education include deniers of the Armenian Genocide, a historical fact, among its faculty, board of directors and trustees, and school sanctioned activities.

    It is undisputed that, among other American J-ewish lobby organizations, the Anti-Defamation League and the American J-ewish Committee have actively lobbied on behalf of Turkey to prevent official recognition of the Armenian Genocide by the U.S. Government and have refused to recognize the Armenian genocide for political reasons related to Israel's relationship with Israel.

    Timeline of ADL's NPFH anti-bias program getting boot from MA townships between July 2007 and the present because of their refusal to acknowledge the Armenian Genocide. http://www.noplacefordenial.com/2007...of-events.html

    Joey Kurtzman wonders if any one in ADL and AJC will have the courage to go to Foxman and David Harris and nudge them to speak the truth about the Armenain Genocide. http://www.j-ewcy.com/post/update_j-...tirring_things

    Kurtzman responds to position of AJC as voiced by its representative Barry Jacobs that so much time has passed since events that who knows if it was a genocide. http://www.j-ewcy.com/post/american_...des_took_place

    ADL and AJC tow the Turkish line on spreading the lie that there was no genocide. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1192380703974

    Foxman and Harris tiptoe around Armenian genocide issue. http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/103775.html

    Foxman picketed in NY for genocide denial. http://www.bloggernews.net/19997

    "On Feb. 5, AJC leaders were among the representatives from a handful of J-ewish organizations – including the ADL – who met with Abdullah Gul, the Turkish foreign minister, in Washington D.C. The meeting centered around a written plea from Turkish J-ews, asking American J-ewsh organizations to not lobby on behalf of the congressional resolution." http://www.jcrcboston.org/newsroom/n...watertown.html

    The USC Shoah Foundation "is part of the College of Letters, Arts & Sciences at the University of Southern California" (just like the School for Armenian Studies). http://college.usc.edu/vhi/instituteataglance.php; http://college.usc.edu/tradition_inn.../armenian.html

    Bruce Ramer, former national president and current honorary president of the AJC, is on the Shoah Foundation Institute's Board of Councilors. http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nl/cont...241&ct=859413; http://www.charitywire.com/charity11/00484.html; http://commdocs.house.gov/committees...hju64352_0.HTM ("My name is Bruce Ramer. I am National President of the AJC"); http://www.ajclosangeles.org/site/c....JyE/b.2026693/ ("Bruce Ramer, AJC's past National President");http://college.usc.edu/vhi/leadership.php ("Bruce Ramer, AJC's past National President")

    While acting as national president of AJC, on behalf of the AJC, Mr. Ramer actively lobbied for the Bush Administration's continued support of Turkey's "efforts to reestablish a cooperative relationship with the International Monetary Fund" stressing that "the development of Turkey's political and economic modernization is important for US strategic, political and economic interests in the region."
    http://www.tusiad.us/specific_page.cfm?CONTENT_ID=50

    Also, as AJC's national president, Mr. Ramer in the company of ADL's Foxman traveled to Austin to request George W. Bush, before he became 43, assist them by ousting Pat Buchanan from the Republican Party. http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive...EPUBLICAN.html [Last month, Bruce Ramer of the American xxxish Committee and Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, along with others, traveled to Austin, Texas, to have lunch with Governor Bush. Ramer raised the issue of Buchanan, whose book A Republic, Not an Empire had just been published. In the book, Buchanan blames Britain and France for World War II: "Had Britain and France not given the war guarantees to Poland, there might have been no Dunkirk, no Belgium, Luxembourg, France, or even Italy." (This view has been shared by a minority of historians, but expressing it didn't win Buchanan any political points.) These concerns did not move Bush, who came out with a statement later the same week saying that Buchanan should remain in the party.]

    The Shoah Foundation in conjunction with the ADL incl. Abe Foxman and Yad Vashem created a multi-media education program re: the Holocaust and anti-bias.
    http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Education_01/4642_01.htm
    http://www.adl.org/PresRele/Education_01/4763_01.htm
    http://college.usc.edu/vhi/pr/EandRA...2005/index.php
    http://www.echoesandreflections.org/...ress_omaha.pdf
    http://www.echoesandreflections.org/
    http://college.usc.edu/vhi/educationalservices.php
    Steven Spielberg, director of Jaws, whose main character the mechanical shark is named after his attorney Bruce Ramer, is the founder of the Shoah Foundation and one of the Institute's Honorary Chair. http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...yid=2516&cs=1; http://college.usc.edu/vhi/download/2000/03_04_00.pdf; http://college.usc.edu/news/october_2005/shoah.html; http://college.usc.edu/vhi/leadership.php

    Mr. Spielberg and Mr. Ramer along with fellow Shoah Institute councilor Wallis Annenberg and Stanley P. Gold (Ramer's former partner at Gang, Tyre, Ramer & Brown, Chairman of the J-ewish Federation of LA and President and CEO of Shamrock Holdings) are on USC's board of trustees. http://www.usc.edu/about/administration/trustees/
    http://www.shamrock.com/pages/our_te...anley_gold.asp (gold)
    http://www.xxxishla.org/stanley_p._gold.cfm (gold, among other things, former managing partner of Gang, Tyre, Ramer & Brown)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Gold (Shamrock Holdings manages Roy E. Disney's investments)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamrock_Holdings (Roy Disney, through Shamrock Holdings, is the third largest shareholder in The Walt Disney Co.)
    http://www.shamrock.com/ (Shamrock has invested approximately $2.0 billion in its various strategies generating superior risk-adjusted returns for our investors, including the Disney family...Shamrock's foundation as the advisor to a distinguished family - the Roy E. Disney family...)

    And, Mr. Ramer is also on the Board of Councilors for the USC Annenberg School of Communication and Chair of USC Gould School of Law's Institute of Entertainment Law and Business where he was previously on the Board of Councilors of the law school. http://annenberg.usc.edu/AboutUs/Leadership/BoC.aspx
    http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/9671.html
    http://www.narip.com/gallery/main.ph...g2_itemId=3220 ("Institute Chair Bruce M. Ramer's “Remembering Jack Valenti” remarks at the luncheon as well as his interview of Barry Diller.")

    Edgar M. Bronfman, an honorary co-chair of the Institue, was until recently the President of the World J-ewish Congress, and was the President of Seagram Company until it was merged into Vivendi Universal in 2000.
    http://www.worldj-ewishcongress.org/...bronfman.html; http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...r_Bronfman,_Sr.
    http://college.usc.edu/vhi/leadership.php

    Among other media outlets, NBC, Universal and NBC entertainment - all owned by General Electric - are major contributors to the Shoah Foundation; and, in the past, Spielberg's Dreamworks and Universal have partnered in the release of films, Dreamworks has recently considered switching from Viacom to Universal; and, Spielberg maintains his offices at Universal and Spielberg works with Universal re: Universal Studios. http://college.usc.edu/vhi/download/PF-2004-Spring.pdf
    http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/...ap5072326.html ("Universal Pictures ... owned by NBC Universal, a unit of General Electric Co.; ...; DreamWorks, Paramount and Paramount Classics are divisions of Viacom Inc")
    http://weblogs.variety.com/thompsono...orks-univ.html ("My sense is that DreamWorks would rather be back at Universal, where Spielberg still keeps his offices, than anywhere else, although Geffen has been talking to both Fox and Universal")
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/4464742a1870.html("Universal also has a history of working with Spielberg to develop theme-park attractions at Universal Studios.")

    NBC partners with the ADL in broadcasting anti-bias segments on NBC, MSNBC and CNBC. http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=10395

    As a leader of USC, and under its auspices, Bruce Ramer, a member of an organization that denies the genocide and actively supports and lobbys for Turkey is allowed to thrive and even lobby on behalf of the University in the Halls of U.S. Congress (including rubbing elbows with Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi) despite also doing so on behalf of the AJC.
    http://www.house.gov/roybal-allard/p...tos070321.html (this was almost immediately after AJC execs went to Turkey)
    http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/c...957&ct=4276971 (scroll down or search Turkey)
    http://www.usc.edu/ur/federal_relati...nts/slideshows (see slide #1 in the March 11, 2008 photoalbum)[/url]
    Last edited by freakyfreaky; 06-04-2008, 01:26 PM.
    Between childhood, boyhood,
    adolescence
    & manhood (maturity) there
    should be sharp lines drawn w/
    Tests, deaths, feats, rites
    stories, songs & judgements

    - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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    Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

    Southern Povertly Law Center issues report indicating rampant Turkish denial of historical fact of Armenian genocide in U.S. academia.
    http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?sid=430
    http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?aid=935
    http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?aid=933
    http://www.asbarez.com/index.html?sh...467_6/4/2008_1

    Campaign advisers for both U.S. presidential candidates advise Turkey to prepare Plan B re: US recognition of genocide.
    http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=26233
    http://www.asbarez.com/index.html?sh...468_6/4/2008_1
    Last edited by freakyfreaky; 06-04-2008, 01:01 PM.
    Between childhood, boyhood,
    adolescence
    & manhood (maturity) there
    should be sharp lines drawn w/
    Tests, deaths, feats, rites
    stories, songs & judgements

    - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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    • #3
      Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

      So I shouldn't apply to USC for this fall?

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      • #4
        Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

        Do with the information what you will.

        Do you support institutions that permit its leaders to promote the denial the Armenian Genocide, work with individuals and groups that deny the genocide and/or actively promote and lobby for Turkish interests?

        Why don't you call USC's Institute of Armenian Studies or Harut Sassounian, inform them of this information and ask them why you as an Armenian should support USC based on its leadership being constituted of individuals who promote denial the Armenian Genocide, with individuals and groups that deny the genocide and actively promote and lobby for Turkish interests.

        Before that consider that Mr. Ramer became a leader in KCET immediately before KCET failed to show Andrew Goldberg's genocide movie in 2006 because LA Armenians caused an uproar that KCET was also going to broadcast a panel on the Armenian Genocide, after the broadcast the movie, that included known genocide deniers.
        http://www.kcet.org/about/management-boards/
        http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...7/ai_n15679479
        http://www.genocidewatch.org/Armenia...KCETletter.htm
        http://www.genocidewatch.org/TURKEYA...ideApril06.htm
        http://migs.concordia.ca/news/PBSArm...ate25Feb06.htm
        Last edited by freakyfreaky; 06-04-2008, 01:25 PM.
        Between childhood, boyhood,
        adolescence
        & manhood (maturity) there
        should be sharp lines drawn w/
        Tests, deaths, feats, rites
        stories, songs & judgements

        - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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        • #5
          Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

          So should I just give up on school in general?

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          • #6
            Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

            Its overrated.
            Between childhood, boyhood,
            adolescence
            & manhood (maturity) there
            should be sharp lines drawn w/
            Tests, deaths, feats, rites
            stories, songs & judgements

            - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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            • #7
              Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

              So what should I do?

              Do you, like, want to form an awareness team about the evilness of schools?

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              • #8
                Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

                If USC leaders were denying the Holocaust, associating and working with Holocaust deniers or actively promoting and lobbying on behalf of Holocaust deniers, what would the AJC and ADL do?

                They'd call for boycott, divestment, and heads of those offending leaders to roll all in the name of their constituents' ancestors.

                And, the public wouldn't be able avert their eyes and ears from MSM sources long enough to hear about and see the injustices USC was committing against Holocaust survivors and their relatives. I'm just saying. USC would be tagged as an anti-semite institution until it came clean. No?

                But, our so-called leaders or wannabe leaders, like Harut Sassounian, and Serge want to emulate and appease the AJC.
                http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.ph...ome_a_Long_Way... ("Armenians have come along way")
                http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=26192 (Sargsyan meets with AJC members)
                Last edited by freakyfreaky; 06-04-2008, 03:19 PM.
                Between childhood, boyhood,
                adolescence
                & manhood (maturity) there
                should be sharp lines drawn w/
                Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                stories, songs & judgements

                - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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                • #9
                  Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

                  Politics vs. Academic Freedom go toe to toe at Georgetown University over Armenian genocide; several board members of the University's Institute of Turkish Studies resign after Chair is ousted over suggestion that issue should be researched rather than avoided. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...070402408.html
                  http://www.assyriatimes.com/engine/m...p?storyid=3325 (same article)

                  As the US government recognized the Armenian genocide in a UN court over 57 years ago, organizations like the AJC and the ADL have no business attempting to assist schools and communities establish and employ ant-bias education programs, and its leaders have no business governing universities or lobbying against the recognition of the Armenian genocide because the word did not exist in the early 1900s, or the events happened so long ago or the recognition of the events as genocide is not worthy of consideration by parliamentary bodies; moreover, when they continue to lobby feverishly on behalf of Turkey that a commission should be set up to discuss the issue and that the U.S. should not recognize the Armenian genocide, these organizations and their leaders deserve to be chastised, ostracized and demonized that they demanded the world do to President Ahmadenijad.
                  http://www.huliq.com/62348/us-recogn...cument-reveals

                  The ADL, AJC, B'nai B'irth and JINSA are just as evil and vile as the holocaust deniers and hate mongers they claim to attempt to eradicate.
                  Between childhood, boyhood,
                  adolescence
                  & manhood (maturity) there
                  should be sharp lines drawn w/
                  Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                  stories, songs & judgements

                  - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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                  • #10
                    Re: ADL, NBC, AJC, USC & AG denial

                    We all know that American J-ews are perfectly capable of publicizing their discontent with bigots, bigotry and other concerns that don't figure on their respective moral compasses but when a bigot represents them whether willing or unwillingly, directly or undirectly, then I guess we can deduce that they are perfectly content with such representation.

                    Its as clear as day, Abe Foxman is a bigot. http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=2620

                    And when the U.S. administration puts him on a plane as a U.S. dignitary to participate with the President in celebrating Israel's 60th birthday and American J-ews say nothing, well then they must be proud that this bigot represents them and the U.S. to Israel.

                    When Mr. Foxman goes to Turkey, Israel and Palestine as acting head of the ADL under the auspicies of representing the American J-ewry, and they say nothing, well then they must be proud that this bigot represents them to other nations.

                    Under Mr. Foxman' warped routing on recognition of the Armenian genocide, the logic of Holocaust recognition may be debunked.

                    First, you can't tell the public what to call the killing of J-ews during WW II, it was so long ago who are we to determine what happened, you can't call it the Holocaust because that word did not exist yet, it can't be called the Holocaust because more people than J-ews were massacred by Nazi Germany, and the massacre of j-ews is not a matter for consderation by parliamentary bodies but should be discussed between the ancestors of the victims and the perpetrators because we are not historians and neither are politicians.

                    Its disgusting and American J-ews that permit the likes of the ADL's Foxman and AJC's Barry Jacobs to represent them regardless of whehter or not they are members or donors of these pathetic organizations are doing so at the expense of their own moral integrity.
                    Last edited by freakyfreaky; 07-27-2008, 10:30 PM.
                    Between childhood, boyhood,
                    adolescence
                    & manhood (maturity) there
                    should be sharp lines drawn w/
                    Tests, deaths, feats, rites
                    stories, songs & judgements

                    - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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