Turkey destroying it's support again

[Gondorian]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3269498,00.html

Read this, in a sense it is poetic justice that Israel simply got itself hated more with all it's sucking up to Turkey, serves them right, and hope they got the message.

[Kharpert]

Very nice, but my guess is these protests are about as valuable as the anti-war protests have been in the United States.

[Vogelgrippe]

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...269498,00.html

Read this, in a sense it is poetic justice that Israel simply got itself hated more with all it's sucking up to Turkey, serves them right, and hope they got the message.

The successive governments of Turkey, like the majority of Turkish population, have always been, and still are, pro-Palestinian. However, with the exception of some Islamist fanatics, the Turkish people also believe in Israel's right to exist (in its pre-1967 borders). Now, since both Israeli and Palestinian governments are controlled by superhawkish dumbxxxxs, it looks like those with more military power (read:Israel) are causing more harm.

However, these fundamentalist minority of ours likes to protest and burn stuff every Friday at Beyazit Square in Istanbul, it must be a way of relief or orgasmic pleasure. If the entire world's problems are solved one day, next Friday they would protest that the neighbour's donkey farted too loud, and burn the Patagonian flag

[Gondorian]

Another Update

Here is more on Turkey arragontly demolishing it's support in Israel

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3269685,00.html

Also note I chose a pro-Turkish source on this to report with.

[Joseph]

The successive governments of Turkey, like the majority of Turkish population, have always been, and still are, pro-Palestinian. However, with the exception of some Islamist fanatics, the Turkish people also believe in Israel's right to exist (in its pre-1967 borders). Now, since both Israeli and Palestinian governments are controlled by superhawkish dumbxxxxs, it looks like those with more military power (read:Israel) are causing more harm.

However, these fundamentalist minority of ours likes to protest and burn stuff every Friday at Beyazit Square in Istanbul, it must be a way of relief or orgasmic pleasure. If the entire world's problems are solved one day, next Friday they would protest that the neighbour's donkey farted too loud, and burn the Patagonian flag

Thanks for the summary. While others may see it as the Turks overreacting towards the Israelis I actually thinks its the Israeli reaction to the Palestinians as causing the problems. That being said, I also believe in Israel's right to exist.

[Gondorian]

Joseph I think you missed the point I was trying to make here by posting the two articles from a pro-Turkish News Paper.

[Gondorian]

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Israel and Turkey are allies, we want Turkey to start losing power to bring it to its knees and force it to make ammends for the Armenian Genocide, this incident is therefore a good thing because it encourages a rift between Israel and Turkey, which weakens Turkish Power, which is a good step on the road towards Armenian Genocide Recognition.

[Varouj]

Hello Cato, how goes it???

[hitite]

... we want Turkey to start losing power to bring it to its knees and force it to make ammends for the Armenian Genocide, this incident is therefore a good thing because it encourages a rift between Israel and Turkey, which weakens Turkish Power, which is a good step on the road towards Armenian Genocide Recognition.....

I always thought that Turks were paranoid about Greeks and Armenians and Arabs and Martians thinking that they all hate us and we should be very careful and never trust them. I thought this was bullcrap maybe because I like to trust people so I used to think that all that was said was just conspiracy theories. I am more and more feeling that all you guys are dribbling over is the destruction of this country. Cant you crotch scratchers envisage a powerful Turkey recognizing the Armenian Genocide paying reparations, opening borders, economically aiding Armenia (ok ok yoıu dont need our money)....???? Nope you cant. You just have to see Turkey crawling on its knees or beamed back to Central Asia. Well tell that to Scotty, he might help ya

[Joseph]

I always thought that Turks were paranoid about Greeks and Armenians and Arabs and Martians thinking that they all hate us and we should be very careful and never trust them. I thought this was bullcrap maybe because I like to trust people so I used to think that all that was said was just conspiracy theories. I am more and more feeling that all you guys are dribbling over is the destruction of this country. Cant you crotch scratchers envisage a powerful Turkey recognizing the Armenian Genocide paying reparations, opening borders, economically aiding Armenia (ok ok yo?u dont need our money)....???? Nope you cant. You just have to see Turkey crawling on its knees or beamed back to Central Asia. Well tell that to Scotty, he might help ya

hitite, I understand what you are trying to say. On the one hand there are those that want merely an apology and an honest look at the genocide on the behalf of Turks and there are others that want revenge. In fact, there are many different opinions regarding the settlement of this issue within the Armenian community and it stands to reason that in this forum you are certainly going to encounter the extreme.

While I realize you are frustrated, you have to also realize that for Armenians, we really don't see how Turkey is or will be a honest, friendly, or even magananimous towards Armenia. Present actions have shown us Turkey holds us in contempt.

In the attitudes of Armenians, Turkey will forever be seen as a self-righteous bully, a fascist nation who will continually make life difficult for Armenia. Turkey has done nothing to assuage this feeling amongst Armenians. Armenians are already resigned to the fact that we will probably forever be enemies.

While there are some Armenians who might be indifferent towards Turkey, you would be hard-pressed to find any Armenian who truly wishes Turkey well. Why should they? I think you would indeed be paranoid to think Armenia would ever somehow attack you or even have the power to hurt Turkey, we all know they don't have that power but at the same time, Armenians would have to be absolute saints to wish Turkey well after what has be done to our people.

Armenians made the mistake of trusting Turks in 1908 and paid a dear price for that; Armenians are currently being blockaded by Turkey; The Armenian Genocide is lied about and that is the ultimate insult to us; Turkey continually bullies Armenia at the behest of their "cousins" in Azerbaijan; Turkey has worked tirelessly to erase our presence in Anatolia...after all these things, how can you expect goodwill?