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Panturanist Ideology & Litterature : Newspapers? Articles? Books? Writers? Impacts?

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  • Panturanist Ideology & Litterature : Newspapers? Articles? Books? Writers? Impacts?

    I have created a new page on Panturanist Ideology & Litterature :

    http://www.crda-france.org/fr/9genoc...5/a_touran.htm

    If you have any special informations, please let me know. Specially what was their position regarding the Arabs.

    Best regards from Paris. Nil.

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    Originally posted by CRDA-France View Post
    I have created a new page on Panturanist Ideology & Litterature :

    http://www.crda-france.org/fr/9genoc...5/a_touran.htm

    If you have any special informations, please let me know. Specially what was their position regarding the Arabs.

    Best regards from Paris. Nil.

    You can probably start with the works of Ziya Gokalp
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • #3
      I have not yet checked out your site (am I mistaken in thinking it is in French?) - but i would suggest (if your interest is in present the racial/racist characteristics of Turkish nationalism to check out the following - if you have not already included -

      Hilmar Kiaser - Imperialism, Racism, and Development theories - the Construction of a Dominant Paradigm on Ottoman Armenians, and Modern Turkish Identity and the Armenian Genocide - From Prejudice to Racist nationalism- Stephan Astorian (in Hovanssisian's Rememberance and Denial - as well as In Imagining the Turkish nation through 'othering' Armenians in Nations and Nationalism 11 (1), 2005 by Ayla Gul and The origins of Turkish Republican citizenship: the birth of race in Nations and Nationalism 11 (3), 2005 by Bora Isyar
      Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?
      Adolf Hitler (22 August 1939)

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      • #4
        You can also read Taner Akcam as well.
        General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CRDA-France View Post
          Specially what was their position regarding the Arabs.
          "Sand-niggers" (to borrow the current US "epithet") - get an older, non-censored Turkish dictionarary, look up "nigger" and you will find "arap", look up "negro" and you will find "zenci".
          Plenipotentiary meow!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            "Sand-niggers" (to borrow the current US "epithet") - get an older, non-censored Turkish dictionarary, look up "nigger" and you will find "arap", look up "negro" and you will find "zenci".
            Thank you for the information. My grandma used to tell how dispisng were the Turks regarding the Arabs. Is there any edited book in Turkey about these "clichés" ?

            I have a testimony written by an English travel about how the Turks had a look at famous Algerian Chief who resisted against the French and who was exiled in Bursa, Turkey thanks to an agreement between Napoleon III and the Ottoman Empire. The great chief with a spiritual background was AbdelKader :
            http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/x6_14abdelkader1.htm
            This famous Algerian had some relations with Syrian Armenian Risqallah Hassoun :
            http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/x6_15hassoun.htm

            The English traveller was Charles-Henry Churchill who met Abdel Kader first im Damascus in 1859 who published his book in London in 1867.

            Here is the French translation of the testimony of the English traveller (Alger 1971, pp300-301) :
            http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/x6_14abdelkader1c3.htm

            It shows how the Turks disregarded the Arabs.

            Nil (Paris)

            PS - Please, try to find
            1/ the original text in English of the testimony
            2/ Books on :
            http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/6_17arabrevolts.htm

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            • #7
              I have found the original book (published in London in 1867) of the English traveller, Charles-Henry Churchill, who met Abdel Kader first in Damascus in 1859 :

              http://books.google.com/books?id=IANFAAAAIAAJ

              I have found the passage showing how Turkish employees of the Ottoman State despised the great Algerian Emir : pp.299-300 :
              Abdel Kader arrived at Constantinople, January 7 1853. On landing he went directly to...

              Bidee Hachoghink. Nil
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              • #8
                Searched around

                All the bastards who came up with the ideology, most of their books are probably in Turkish, Tatar or Azeri, I would say enjoy, but yeah...

                Yusuf Akçura
                Tekin Alp
                Sadri Maksudi Arsal
                Hüseyin Nihâl Atsız
                Enver Paşa
                Resit Galib
                Ziya Gökalp
                Riza Nur
                Nejdet Sançar
                Mirsäyet Soltanğäliev
                Hikmet Tanyu
                Dündar Taşer
                Fethi Tevetoğlu
                Alparslan Türkeş
                Turan Yazgan
                Niyazi Yıldırım Gençosmanoğlu
                ¡Tierra y Libertad!

                Zapata

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CRDA-France View Post
                  It shows how the Turks disregarded the Arabs.
                  You dont have to read many books to see how Turks do not like Arabs. Ask anybody and they will say they are "backstabbers", "faith mongers" and "kissers of English ass"....

                  "Anladıysam Arap olayım" and similar terms are still very much used in daily Turkish.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hitite View Post
                    You dont have to read many books to see how Turks do not like Arabs. Ask anybody and they will say they are "backstabbers", "faith mongers" and "kissers of English ass"....
                    "Anladıysam Arap olayım" and similar terms are still very much used in daily Turkish.
                    We know all this in the Near and Middle East. But the Arabs of Maghreb, do not know. In France we have an important Maghrebian community (five to six millions of persons). All do not read Arabic and they know less and less about their Arab history or culture.

                    Which is important is to have books (in Turkish or in Arabic) about these Turkish sayings regarding the Arabs so that we may scan and put on the web.

                    Nil
                    http://www.crda-france.org/0ab/6_17arabrevolts.htm
                    #1134

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