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  • #11
    Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

    KanadaHye jan here's one more heartwrenching article. This one is from Ambassador Morgenthau. He was of Jewish descent and a man of all heart as he wished to save any and all Armenians from being slaughtered by the hands of Talaat Pasha. Morgenthau's son like the father is a very kind man as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Am...autelegram.jpg
    Հա'յ ժողովուրդ, քո միա'կ բրկութիւնը քո հաւաքական ուժի մէջ է:

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    • #12
      Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

      Armenia without Armenians, such is the plan of the Ottoman Empire headed by Talaat and Enver Pashas. New York Times of September 29, 1915; yet Erdogan, the Prime Minister of Turkey today comes to the United States attends and speaks at five functions, including addressing to students in an American University and to Charley Rose in a Television interview and says "There was no Genocide, it never happened".

      Instead of saying to Erdogan by Obama, a visit "non-grata", not welcomed visit by a denying Prime Minister of Turkey, Obama welcomes him with open arms. Would Obama have done the same to a German denialist Prime Minister if he outspokenly and boarishly denied the Haulocaust? Would Obama had welcomed Ahmadinejad for that matter? Or would he have received Sudan's president who annihilated 800,000 souls in Darfur? The answer is no! Then why to Genocide denying Erdogan?
      Last edited by Anoush; 12-20-2009, 02:30 PM.
      Հա'յ ժողովուրդ, քո միա'կ բրկութիւնը քո հաւաքական ուժի մէջ է:

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      • #13
        Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

        Anybody can make heads or tails out of this old article?
        Sounds like there was a poor attempt by the West to try put Armenians safety as a precondition for recognizing the new Soviet Union.

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        Recognition of Moscow as the price of Armenian safety opposed.

        New York Times
        Dec 20th 1920

        PDF file: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...649D946195D6CF
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • #14
          Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
          Anybody can make heads or tails out of this old article?
          Sounds like there was a poor attempt by the West to try put Armenians safety as a precondition for recognizing the new Soviet Union.

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          Recognition of Moscow as the price of Armenian safety opposed.

          New York Times
          Dec 20th 1920

          PDF file: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...649D946195D6CF
          That's what it sounds like to me... need to look into it a bit more. It's almost as though they "needed" to recognize the Soviet Union in order to "save" Armenia and made it look like it was blackmail.

          Last edited by KanadaHye; 01-25-2010, 11:54 PM.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #15
            Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

            Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post


            WHOLE ARMENIAN RACE MAY BE WIPED OUT; American Missionary Says Turks and Tartars Threaten Total Extinction.

            Mar 31, 1918, Sunday

            I like how this article include the Tartars of the Caucasus (aka the modern-day "Azeris")

            Watch this video to see how the genocide wasn't only done in Anatolia. Azerbaijan is ALSO responsible. (Of course, back then, Azerbaijan had no nation, it was led by the Islamic Musavat party. If we can assume Musavat gave birth to Azerbaijan, then Azerbaijan is also responsible.)

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt9ge_mwOyI

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            • #16
              Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

              We can point out in The New York Times May 26, 1920, Wednesday :

              "Senator Borah is right in saying that the Allies should restore to Armenia the portions they have..."

              http://forum.hyeclub.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=10

              Who was Senator BORAH ? From which State ? Please develop.

              - his biography : where was he born ? where did he die ? Where is his grave ?
              - the towns he lived
              - his decendents thanks to genealogical forums
              - has he Streets or Places with his name ?
              - Libraries ? Schools ?
              - Fondations ? etc...

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Borah
              http://books.google.com/books?q=senator+borah
              http://www.google.com/search?q=senat...N&hl=en&tab=pw

              With this method of historiographical applications, there are opportunities to send targetted e-mails. This is part of the Armenian general grassroot action.

              Take care. Nil (Paris)
              http://www.globalarmenianheritage-ad...ys/america.htm
              #1175
              Last edited by CRDA-France; 03-10-2010, 01:03 PM.

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              • #17
                Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

                Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
                New Zealand newspapers have some coverage too (under Armenia) that has been digitized (thus available online), going back to the 19th century. Example here: http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi...--0Armenia-all
                I have collected many of these articles over time. I can't really look at them much more as it affects me too much.
                Sardarabad,1918.

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                • #18
                  Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

                  Originally posted by hrai View Post
                  I have collected many of these articles over time. I can't really look at them much more as it affects me too much.
                  No doubt......burns to the bone.

                  Kiwis are cool people hipeter924.
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                  • #19
                    Re: Whole armenian race may be wiped out

                    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                    No doubt......burns to the bone.

                    Kiwis are cool people hipeter924.
                    The nz govt still keeps too neutral and sometimes too friendly with Turkey because of this sort of crap both parties give here:
                    Turkey and Armenia to establish historic diplomatic ties
                    Posted by Chris Carter on September 28th, 2009

                    I’m delighted that Turkey and Armenia will establish diplomatic ties on 10 October.

                    The countries share a land border in the energy-rich Caspian region, which is often referred to as the gateway between the West and the East.

                    Turkish-Armenian relations have been strained for a long time. Armenian Christians had fewer rights than the Muslim-majority Turks during the time of the Ottoman Empire. A crisis point was reached in 1915 when many hundreds of thousands of Armenian people died in a very short time. Armenian says a deliberate ‘genocide’ was carried out by Ottoman troops under the orders from the Imperial authorities, but the successor Turkish state adamantly denies there was an official policy of systematic extermination.

                    Nevertheless, Turkey did recognise Armenia when it declared its independence from the Soviet Union on 1991. Relationships deteriorated when Turkey sided with Azerbaijan during the 1993 Nagarno-Karabakh War. The Armenia-Turkey border has been closed to trade ever since.

                    I don’t for a moment believe that the historical grievances will be put to rest by this mutual recognition – indeed the move will still require ratification from the respective parliaments in Ankara and Yerevan.

                    Nonetheless this a very important step forward. Now Turkey and Armenia will have a formalised framework for resolving any points of contention. Also, with the movement of trade and people across the border personal linkages and trust should grow.

                    So well done to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Armenian President Serzh Sargsian on this historic agreement.
                    http://blog.labour.org.nz/index.php/...plomatic-ties/
                    Genocide denial of a sort right there, but I guess there are worse cases of it.

                    But as for what people believe here, pretty much everyone agrees there was an Armenian Genocide; but I think if that blog gives an indication there is still some Turkish propaganda seeping into society somewhere.
                    Last edited by hipeter924; 03-13-2010, 03:37 AM.

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