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  • Re: We are not empire seekers

    You are beyond hope...

    If I were a believer I would pray for your soul. You also must believe that the universe was created 6000 years ago and a certain galaxy we see which is 9 billion light years away, i.e. it took 9 billion years for the light traveling at 300,000 km per second to reach us, i.e. what we see is the state it was 9 billion years ago, is nothing but the devil's work... That human beings living in this day and age who can read and write in a different language are so asinine, is beyond belief.

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    • Re: We are not empire seekers

      Originally posted by Hellektor View Post
      You are beyond hope...

      If I were a believer I would pray for your soul. You also must believe that the universe was created 6000 years ago and a certain galaxy we see which is 9 billion light years away, i.e. it took 9 billion years for the light traveling at 300,000 km per second to reach us, i.e. what we see is the state it was 9 billion years ago, is nothing but the devil's work... That human beings living in this day and age who can read and write in a different language are so asinine, is beyond belief.

      Dear Hellektor,

      I dont speak English very well,If I wish you could spoke Turkish,We discussed this subjects.

      Thank you your answer,I understand you,but We need detail talking about this subject.Else result dont allow.

      See you...

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      • Re: We are not empire seekers

        Originally posted by Fuzzy View Post
        Dear Hellektor,

        I dont speak English very well,If I wish you could spoke Turkish,We discussed this subjects.

        Thank you your answer,I understand you,but We need detail talking about this subject.Else result dont allow.

        See you...
        Where did you get the idea to be Armenian you have to believe in God?

        And whats there to talk about? People can believe in what they want and you believe in what you want and everyone is happy.

        Oh..Oh...Sorry, I forgot....you don't know what freedom of religion is where you are from, my bad.

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        • Re: We are not empire seekers

          Originally posted by TXMENIAN View Post
          Where did you get the idea to be Armenian you have to believe in God?

          And whats there to talk about? People can believe in what they want and you believe in what you want and everyone is happy.

          Oh..Oh...Sorry, I forgot....you don't know what freedom of religion is where you are from, my bad.
          From Urpha I wondered how old are you?Did you go to urpha then events.Come to Urpha and see.You have missed your ancestor.

          Please answer me,if a human isnt believing to God(Eloh:Jesus talked to God,Aramish word=Arabic word) how he/she died for his/her country,nation,freedom etc...?

          I will not talking about to believe to God.Enough.

          You are Christian,we are Muslim,Learn Masons,Templier Knights,Rose Croix(enemies of Christians).

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          • Re: The Ottomans

            Mr Rotarien,(Jack Sparrow)

            Tukey can be helpless today,already Turkey will collapse a day like Armenia.But God is permanent.God decides everything.My unshaped philosophy is saying Dont afraid that I know Baphomet(from Hell) from you very well.

            Say hello to your sirs.We will deal with them in Armageddon or front of Mizan .

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            • Re: The Ottomans

              Originally posted by jack sparrow
              hello, if you pardon me I truly couldnt understand what is your point,can you more specific,thanks,by the way what is your origin,Iknow you are from turkey but it is for understanding better
              My fathers origin Macedon/Albanian and Arabic mix.
              My mother origin is Turk.

              I mean I have Balkan origin ,Middle East origin and Asia origin.Also our a lot of relatives have Kurdish origin.

              Furthermore we have got very few relatives of Armenian origin.but they have forgotten that and they are keeping fact.They are angry when I want to talk about this subject.

              In result,My origin is very mix.So you dont understand me.I dont remind to anybody,Dont compare me with anybody,I like all nations and people without zionists.I am believing that will forget of past.I hope good future for humanity.

              If I defend daemons and murderers what I do? when I went to Allah(God).

              I wish Armenians and Greeks still have been in Anatolia instead of J-e-w-s but anymore it is impossibe.


              Allah(God) forgive everybody for past.

              Please ,love God and all Prophets.
              Good days,see you later.
              Last edited by Fuzzy; 07-16-2008, 12:43 PM.

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              • Re: We are not empire seekers

                Originally posted by Fuzzy View Post
                Dear Hellektor,

                I dont speak English very well,If I wish you could spoke Turkish,We discussed this subjects.

                Thank you your answer,I understand you,but We need detail talking about this subject.Else result dont allow.

                See you...
                You don't seem to get it. I don't know it's because of your English or because of your limited world view; the point is, we are not discussing the Darwin theory here. I'm not talking about the evolution of ape to man in the last twenty million years when I mention evolution. I am talking about the evolution from Turk to man in the last ten to twelve thousand years, from the time the already evolved, for three or four hundred thousands of years to more or less the present state, Homo sapiens who also in the course of this time acquired certain traits like remorse, guilt, shame, compassion, honesty, modesty, sincerity, truthfulness, conscience, objectivity, self-criticism, sympathy, etc., which makes them what they are, i.e. civilized human beings.

                I believe for some unknown reason the Turk creature has missed the train of this evolution, what accounts for its total lack of humanity. Instead of shame, remorse and guilt for what they did to Armenians, the Turk creature shamelessly projects their inhumanity onto Armenians, accusing them of their own savagery. Instead of these human traits, the Turk creature has an insane, megalomaniac pride and believes they are higher beings where in fact their contribution to human civilization has been nothing but death, destruction, rape, subjugation, terror, slavery, stealing of women and children, pillage, plunder and genocide for the last thousand years.

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                • Re: The Ottomans

                  Originally posted by Fuzzy View Post
                  Please answer me,if a human isnt believing to God(Eloh:Jesus talked to God,Aramish word=Arabic word) how he/she died for his/her country,nation,freedom etc...?

                  I will not talking about to believe to God.Enough.

                  You are Christian,we are Muslim,Learn Masons,Templier Knights,Rose Croix(enemies of Christians).
                  The puny, impotent, vengeful, racist, sexist, capricious, bloodthirsty, lying, treacherous, immoral, unjust, jealous, selfish, psychopathic god of the pornographic, hateful, gory, genocidal book Torah, where there's not a grain of morality but an unreasonable fear of this midget god, has been dead for a long, long time. Read some Voltaire and countless other similar critics for already two or three centuries where they have found no less that 80,000 (yes, eighty thousand) fallacies in this book.

                  Belief in god is a totally personal matter and any prying into someone's personal beliefs amounts to inquisition. The god we picture now (whether we believe in a creator of the universe or not) is quadrillions of zillions of times vaster and more powerful than the plagiarized, local, belligerent psycho of the dark, Semitic religions.

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                  • Re: The Ottomans

                    Originally posted by Hellektor View Post
                    The puny, impotent, vengeful, racist, sexist, capricious, bloodthirsty, lying, treacherous, immoral, unjust, jealous, selfish, psychopathic god of the pornographic, hateful, gory, genocidal book Torah, where there's not a grain of morality but an unreasonable fear of this midget god, has been dead for a long, long time.

                    I agree with you wholeheartedly. The creature you described above known as 'God' has nothing to do with God in the New Testament, even though Christians embrace the Old Testament as well but one can easily see a world of difference between the two.

                    Originally posted by Hellektor View Post

                    Read some Voltaire and countless other similar critics for already two or three centuries where they have found no less that 80,000 (yes, eighty thousand) fallacies in this book.
                    Yes, he rejected all kinds of religious dogmas and 'institutionalized' religions but he (Voltaire) did believe in God.

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                    • Re: The Ottomans

                      Originally posted by Lucin View Post

                      I agree with you wholeheartedly. The creature you described above known as 'God' has nothing to do with God in the New Testament, even though Christians embrace the Old Testament as well but one can easily see a world of difference between the two.



                      Yes, he rejected all kinds of religious dogmas and 'institutionalized' religions but he (Voltaire) did believe in God.
                      Dear Lucin,

                      The Christian god has a dual character. As long as it is influenced by the Aryan/Iranian religions: Mithraism, Zoroaster and Mani and the Greek culture, it is a kind god, when it is the Jew god Yahweh, mostly through the writings of Paul who plays an essential role in the creation of Christianity, it is the vicious god of Torah, a bit less cruel nevertheless!

                      Do read Shojaeddin Shafa's books that are available online, if you haven't. Start with Tavallodi Digar that with a simple style explains all this, providing enough examples to shut up those who still have any respect for those vile Abrahamic religions. In Iran, we have had it up to our necks for the last thirty years and we are sick of it to death, aren't we Lucin?

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