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When the lip is not a fool, or a particular national genotsidostroeniya in Azerbaijan
Five years ago, "GA" published my article entitled "Genocide in the law, or features of the national state-building" on the legislative initiatives of Heydar Aliyev of Azerbaijan to create their own version of genocide. Over the years, much has changed - the progress, as they say, is obvious. Today initiative son Aliyev strike persistent search for a new cementing tools to not completely stable national identity of Azerbaijanis. Among other "projects" for this purpose unwind found in Guba human remains prepodnosimyh as victims of "genocide committed by Armenians." Fortunately for the Azerbaijani authorities and anthropologists, human bones can not speak. Based on this conventional wisdom, the Azerbaijani politicians and scientists have decided that you can not only calculate their gender, age and nationality, but also the confidence to name the culprit death.
Background (all below quotes and information derived solely from Azerbaijani sources) is as follows: in Guba, which is about 200 km north of Baku, April 1 (! - GD) in 2007 on the former landfill was accidentally discovered mass graves . In Azerbaijan, quickly realized that they will be useful as a novelty anti-Armenian propaganda, and have put this idea, as they say, on a grand scale. As a result of the content of the Baku press on Guba burial even uninformed reader will find many fun and instructive moments that characterize the process of creating a national framework in Azerbaijan "genotsidostroeniya" and the incompetence of methods used in the field of information warfare. Give a few gems from this series.
Immediately after the discovery of burial speaker of the Azerbaijani Parliament Oktay Assad said: "MPs, especially historians, should work to attract international experts. It should be done so that the ambassadors of other countries in Azerbaijan, visiting Guba, be sure to attend and the location of mass graves and did not refuse it, saying that it is not included in the protocol. " In this case, Asadov instructed the Director of the Institute of History, MP Yagub Mahmudov attract foreign anthropologists to make an official document "about the massacre of Azerbaijanis by Armenians early last century." However, foreign experts in the Bay have not appeared, and found the remains have not been subjected to independent peer review for at least determine the time origin.
More soberly approached the issue the president of the National Academy of Sciences of Azerbaijan Mahmud Karimov, who spoke to refrain from making any conclusions about the mass graves and offered to instruct the first examination of Azerbaijani specialists. Karimov did not rule out that Guba remains may be the result of a mass extermination of people, and the mass of the epidemic.
In turn, the head of the Caucasus Muslims, Sheikh-ul-Islam Allahshukur Pashazade made an appeal to world opinion and international organizations, not preminuv declare: "The discovery in Guba and Neftchala areas of mass graves is very interesting. So, the story hides a lot more facts. We know its bad history. Perhaps there are those among us who are unprofitable to the disclosure of these issues "(? - GD).
Meanwhile, leader of the expedition of the Institute of Archaeology and Ethnography of Azerbaijan National Academy of Sciences Qahraman Aghayev reported finding about 200 skulls, adding: "... researchers concluded that the dumping - the result of the genocide carried out by Armenians in Guba. Thus here! Question on what basis such a conclusion is made for G. Agayeva, apparently, is not even a minor - a question for him is simply not there. Further, in the case came in MP Sabir Rustamkhanli, requiring prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into the discovery of mass graves. During this time, the locals managed to steal six skulls from the burial, probably guided by well-known principle of "maybe will fit."
Forgetting about the promise to provide the public the results of analysis of soil and to attract foreign experts, Agayev spoke with another stunning statement. According to him, to draw conclusions about almost exactly behind the killing of Armenians in Guba buried the remains, "allows both historical facts and findings found in the burial of skulls." And elaborated: "Among the archival materials have a letter from Stepan Shaumian Hamazasp. It notes that" the main purpose of your arrival in Azerbaijan is the spread of Bolshevism. But this - the second question. The main is your duty - the destruction of the local Turks. This - the national debt. "Even funnier: G. Agayev asserts that" studies have shown that the massacre took place from 3 to 10 May ... "(a truly scientific achievement, which proved only by Azerbaijani scientist). And further:" The study of skulls, found in a burial site, also show that the genocide occurred 90 years ago, people whose bodies we found were killed elsewhere and dumped there ... The study found that these men were stripped and brutally killed with sharp objects ... and on some skeletons skull separated from the body. "
Note that a mysterious and probably non-existent letter Shaumian has not yet been published in any of the Azerbaijani collection of archival documents.
G. Agayev also said that there is no need to attract international experts, because "in our institution great potential. The Republican Prosecutor's Office also has a department of medical expertise ... All work carried out in the burial, are removed by special cells, imported from the Institute" . Upon completion of the same excavation leader of the expedition made a truly sensational statement: "Based on anthropological studies of the skulls found that in 1918, in addition to physical destruction of Azerbaijanis were xxxs and Lezgins. After that, everything fell into place. Indeed, why should involve international experts, if the Azerbaijani "pros" have managed to establish even the nationality of the remains. On why among the deceased was not living then in these areas Persian, Russian and Talysh, Qahraman modestly silent.
We should add that so far Azerbaijani historians have not published any historical or archival document evidencing the fact of the massacre of Muslim population in the Bay or to provide specific information on disposal. Speculation and unscientific, lacking any basis speculation - nothing more. Meanwhile, there are archives proving that in the Bay in 1918, there has been violence against the Armenian population from the local Tatar groups, and the number of abused the Armenians to the number found at the burial site of skeletons. Here is one such evidence. In late April 1918. Commissioner of the city and region Guba Gelovani to the Chairman of the Military Revolutionary Committee Korganov telegram read: "Today, 24 April, I delivered 115 Armenians who were imprisoned in Guba prison. They have lost all their possessions. I have taken steps to return to their property. They requested financial assistance from the Armenian National Council. As soon as possible send to my email. Tangible critical condition ... except Guba city in other places, too, is captured by Armenians. take measures to rescue them. " This telegram was published in the Areva 27 April 1918. Other archival material indicates the brutal murder of wealthy Armenian families Guba city, and among those killed were children (in the course of excavations in Azerbaijani sources, were found 4 children's skeleton).
Can we claim that the remains belong to the Armenian-gubintsam, who had been kept as hostages, and later most of them have been destroyed? Even having at hand a specific historical documents that say this with confidence not because it needs to spend a lot of expertise, including including radiouglevodorodnuyu, anthropological and genetic, accessible to modern science methods. It remains, therefore, conclude that the signing of the decree on the construction of the Memorial of Genocide of Azerbaijanis "Ilham Aliyev got into a trap set by pseudo-Azerbaijani historians blasphemous manner using unidentified remains exclusively in the dirty political propaganda purposes.
Why the Azerbaijani side should already be blaming the lies and dishonesty on this issue? It's enough to even that from the outset has been announced national identity of human remains, while initially claimed that the remains belonged to xxxs, a week later they were declared as brutally murdered "citizens of Azerbaijan" (quote from the statement expedition leader G. Agayeva) and in "landmark" decree Aliyev stated that "in a mass grave in Guba was found that the genocide along with the Azerbaijanis were killed with unlimited ruthlessness and cruelty, raped thousands of Lezgins, xxxs, Tats and other ethnic Minorities ".
Now a few words about the elementary logic, permanently limping in Azerbaijani science workers. if these remains are owned by Muslims, Azeris, why local people are still unaware of the existence of mass graves of their relatives who were also buried in the landfill? On the basis of what is not known to modern science method Azerbaijani specialists have identified the skulls belonging to Azerbaijanis Lezghins, Mountain xxxs, and Tatham? Which were found related materials that could provide a definitive answer to questions about the history and national identity of the remains? Finally, a historical document for certain reports on the grave in Guba "brutally killed by Armenians Azerbaijanis?
Not to mention that in the interests of scientific objectivity would not hurt to bring to the research of international experts. To do so little: invite expert kranologov (specialists in the skull), geneticists - for DNA testing and historians - for comparison of historical documents and related material excavation. But ...
December 30, 2009. Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev issued a decree on setting up in Guba "Genocide Memorial Complex. In order to create complex Guba executive power of the President's Reserve Fund allocated 1 million manat. The text of the decree read: "At the beginning of last century due to the policy of mass ethnic cleansing and aggression carried out by the Armenian-Dashnak gangs on the territory of Azerbaijan, Baku, Guba, Karabakh, Shamakhi, Kurdamir, Salyan, Lankaran and other regions have been destroyed tens of thousands innocent Azerbaijanis massacre carried out against our people is one of the most tragic acts of genocide of the twentieth century. Only in the Guba district in April and May 1918 were completely destroyed 122 villages. in a mass grave in Guba was found that as a result of the genocide, together with Azerbaijanis killed with limitless ruthlessness and cruelty, raped thousands of Lezgins, xxxs, Tats and other ethnic minorities .... " Here and do commentary superfluous.
Judging from published photographs from the place of burial, And this vile idea will become a temporary fad azerpropa, since even traces of decay and destruction of bones and skulls. In the heat of anti-Armenian hysteria Baku scientists, shows preservation of the remains of forgotten or did not know about the necessity of such actions. Meanwhile, many foreign ambassadors and delegations fall for Azerbaijan "hospitality" and expressed horror and a burning desire to write a book about the burial of Guba. Alas!
Amid all the above can be assumed that shortly presidential decree all cemeteries in Azerbaijan will announce the results of evil and treacherous Armenians. Marasmus grows stronger hopelessly ... And here we are, unfortunately, just does not help their neighbors.
Hayk Demoyan, director of the Museum-Institute of Armenian Genocide
The newspaper "Voice of Armenia"
Five years ago, "GA" published my article entitled "Genocide in the law, or features of the national state-building" on the legislative initiatives of Heydar Aliyev of Azerbaijan to create their own version of genocide. Over the years, much has changed - the progress, as they say, is obvious. Today initiative son Aliyev strike persistent search for a new cementing tools to not completely stable national identity of Azerbaijanis. Among other "projects" for this purpose unwind found in Guba human remains prepodnosimyh as victims of "genocide committed by Armenians." Fortunately for the Azerbaijani authorities and anthropologists, human bones can not speak. Based on this conventional wisdom, the Azerbaijani politicians and scientists have decided that you can not only calculate their gender, age and nationality, but also the confidence to name the culprit death.
Background (all below quotes and information derived solely from Azerbaijani sources) is as follows: in Guba, which is about 200 km north of Baku, April 1 (! - GD) in 2007 on the former landfill was accidentally discovered mass graves . In Azerbaijan, quickly realized that they will be useful as a novelty anti-Armenian propaganda, and have put this idea, as they say, on a grand scale. As a result of the content of the Baku press on Guba burial even uninformed reader will find many fun and instructive moments that characterize the process of creating a national framework in Azerbaijan "genotsidostroeniya" and the incompetence of methods used in the field of information warfare. Give a few gems from this series.
Immediately after the discovery of burial speaker of the Azerbaijani Parliament Oktay Assad said: "MPs, especially historians, should work to attract international experts. It should be done so that the ambassadors of other countries in Azerbaijan, visiting Guba, be sure to attend and the location of mass graves and did not refuse it, saying that it is not included in the protocol. " In this case, Asadov instructed the Director of the Institute of History, MP Yagub Mahmudov attract foreign anthropologists to make an official document "about the massacre of Azerbaijanis by Armenians early last century." However, foreign experts in the Bay have not appeared, and found the remains have not been subjected to independent peer review for at least determine the time origin.
More soberly approached the issue the president of the National Academy of Sciences of Azerbaijan Mahmud Karimov, who spoke to refrain from making any conclusions about the mass graves and offered to instruct the first examination of Azerbaijani specialists. Karimov did not rule out that Guba remains may be the result of a mass extermination of people, and the mass of the epidemic.
In turn, the head of the Caucasus Muslims, Sheikh-ul-Islam Allahshukur Pashazade made an appeal to world opinion and international organizations, not preminuv declare: "The discovery in Guba and Neftchala areas of mass graves is very interesting. So, the story hides a lot more facts. We know its bad history. Perhaps there are those among us who are unprofitable to the disclosure of these issues "(? - GD).
Meanwhile, leader of the expedition of the Institute of Archaeology and Ethnography of Azerbaijan National Academy of Sciences Qahraman Aghayev reported finding about 200 skulls, adding: "... researchers concluded that the dumping - the result of the genocide carried out by Armenians in Guba. Thus here! Question on what basis such a conclusion is made for G. Agayeva, apparently, is not even a minor - a question for him is simply not there. Further, in the case came in MP Sabir Rustamkhanli, requiring prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into the discovery of mass graves. During this time, the locals managed to steal six skulls from the burial, probably guided by well-known principle of "maybe will fit."
Forgetting about the promise to provide the public the results of analysis of soil and to attract foreign experts, Agayev spoke with another stunning statement. According to him, to draw conclusions about almost exactly behind the killing of Armenians in Guba buried the remains, "allows both historical facts and findings found in the burial of skulls." And elaborated: "Among the archival materials have a letter from Stepan Shaumian Hamazasp. It notes that" the main purpose of your arrival in Azerbaijan is the spread of Bolshevism. But this - the second question. The main is your duty - the destruction of the local Turks. This - the national debt. "Even funnier: G. Agayev asserts that" studies have shown that the massacre took place from 3 to 10 May ... "(a truly scientific achievement, which proved only by Azerbaijani scientist). And further:" The study of skulls, found in a burial site, also show that the genocide occurred 90 years ago, people whose bodies we found were killed elsewhere and dumped there ... The study found that these men were stripped and brutally killed with sharp objects ... and on some skeletons skull separated from the body. "
Note that a mysterious and probably non-existent letter Shaumian has not yet been published in any of the Azerbaijani collection of archival documents.
G. Agayev also said that there is no need to attract international experts, because "in our institution great potential. The Republican Prosecutor's Office also has a department of medical expertise ... All work carried out in the burial, are removed by special cells, imported from the Institute" . Upon completion of the same excavation leader of the expedition made a truly sensational statement: "Based on anthropological studies of the skulls found that in 1918, in addition to physical destruction of Azerbaijanis were xxxs and Lezgins. After that, everything fell into place. Indeed, why should involve international experts, if the Azerbaijani "pros" have managed to establish even the nationality of the remains. On why among the deceased was not living then in these areas Persian, Russian and Talysh, Qahraman modestly silent.
We should add that so far Azerbaijani historians have not published any historical or archival document evidencing the fact of the massacre of Muslim population in the Bay or to provide specific information on disposal. Speculation and unscientific, lacking any basis speculation - nothing more. Meanwhile, there are archives proving that in the Bay in 1918, there has been violence against the Armenian population from the local Tatar groups, and the number of abused the Armenians to the number found at the burial site of skeletons. Here is one such evidence. In late April 1918. Commissioner of the city and region Guba Gelovani to the Chairman of the Military Revolutionary Committee Korganov telegram read: "Today, 24 April, I delivered 115 Armenians who were imprisoned in Guba prison. They have lost all their possessions. I have taken steps to return to their property. They requested financial assistance from the Armenian National Council. As soon as possible send to my email. Tangible critical condition ... except Guba city in other places, too, is captured by Armenians. take measures to rescue them. " This telegram was published in the Areva 27 April 1918. Other archival material indicates the brutal murder of wealthy Armenian families Guba city, and among those killed were children (in the course of excavations in Azerbaijani sources, were found 4 children's skeleton).
Can we claim that the remains belong to the Armenian-gubintsam, who had been kept as hostages, and later most of them have been destroyed? Even having at hand a specific historical documents that say this with confidence not because it needs to spend a lot of expertise, including including radiouglevodorodnuyu, anthropological and genetic, accessible to modern science methods. It remains, therefore, conclude that the signing of the decree on the construction of the Memorial of Genocide of Azerbaijanis "Ilham Aliyev got into a trap set by pseudo-Azerbaijani historians blasphemous manner using unidentified remains exclusively in the dirty political propaganda purposes.
Why the Azerbaijani side should already be blaming the lies and dishonesty on this issue? It's enough to even that from the outset has been announced national identity of human remains, while initially claimed that the remains belonged to xxxs, a week later they were declared as brutally murdered "citizens of Azerbaijan" (quote from the statement expedition leader G. Agayeva) and in "landmark" decree Aliyev stated that "in a mass grave in Guba was found that the genocide along with the Azerbaijanis were killed with unlimited ruthlessness and cruelty, raped thousands of Lezgins, xxxs, Tats and other ethnic Minorities ".
Now a few words about the elementary logic, permanently limping in Azerbaijani science workers. if these remains are owned by Muslims, Azeris, why local people are still unaware of the existence of mass graves of their relatives who were also buried in the landfill? On the basis of what is not known to modern science method Azerbaijani specialists have identified the skulls belonging to Azerbaijanis Lezghins, Mountain xxxs, and Tatham? Which were found related materials that could provide a definitive answer to questions about the history and national identity of the remains? Finally, a historical document for certain reports on the grave in Guba "brutally killed by Armenians Azerbaijanis?
Not to mention that in the interests of scientific objectivity would not hurt to bring to the research of international experts. To do so little: invite expert kranologov (specialists in the skull), geneticists - for DNA testing and historians - for comparison of historical documents and related material excavation. But ...
December 30, 2009. Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev issued a decree on setting up in Guba "Genocide Memorial Complex. In order to create complex Guba executive power of the President's Reserve Fund allocated 1 million manat. The text of the decree read: "At the beginning of last century due to the policy of mass ethnic cleansing and aggression carried out by the Armenian-Dashnak gangs on the territory of Azerbaijan, Baku, Guba, Karabakh, Shamakhi, Kurdamir, Salyan, Lankaran and other regions have been destroyed tens of thousands innocent Azerbaijanis massacre carried out against our people is one of the most tragic acts of genocide of the twentieth century. Only in the Guba district in April and May 1918 were completely destroyed 122 villages. in a mass grave in Guba was found that as a result of the genocide, together with Azerbaijanis killed with limitless ruthlessness and cruelty, raped thousands of Lezgins, xxxs, Tats and other ethnic minorities .... " Here and do commentary superfluous.
Judging from published photographs from the place of burial, And this vile idea will become a temporary fad azerpropa, since even traces of decay and destruction of bones and skulls. In the heat of anti-Armenian hysteria Baku scientists, shows preservation of the remains of forgotten or did not know about the necessity of such actions. Meanwhile, many foreign ambassadors and delegations fall for Azerbaijan "hospitality" and expressed horror and a burning desire to write a book about the burial of Guba. Alas!
Amid all the above can be assumed that shortly presidential decree all cemeteries in Azerbaijan will announce the results of evil and treacherous Armenians. Marasmus grows stronger hopelessly ... And here we are, unfortunately, just does not help their neighbors.
Hayk Demoyan, director of the Museum-Institute of Armenian Genocide
The newspaper "Voice of Armenia"
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