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      Quote Originally Posted by Haykakan View Post
      Stronger currency also kills exporting businesses in Armenia.
      It really doesn't. Swiss and Germans, Swedes and Japanese, all still manage to be strong exporters. The goal is to create a competitive economy and not live like some kind of peasants.

      A stronger currency means confidence in the AMD. Means that you are not really at the crutch of the toilet paper known as the ruble.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HyeSocialist View Post
      It really doesn't. Swiss and Germans, Swedes and Japanese, all still manage to be strong exporters. The goal is to create a competitive economy and not live like some kind of peasants.

      A stronger currency means confidence in the AMD. Means that you are not really at the crutch of the toilet paper known as the ruble.
      I agree with you on the benefit of a strong currency. I also agree that the perceived downside to a strong currency is more like economic voodoo than a real detriment.
      However, concerning the ruble, I disagree.
      The ruble is paying for all the aid to Syria. The ruble is paying for all the thousands of sorties flown in Syria. All the airport and harbor in Syria. All the production of SU35s, SU30s, KA52s etc, etc, ...
      The west's contrived picture of Russia is in large part propaganda.
      For a country who's economy is radically smaller than USA/cohorts, they (and ruble) are doing incredible things.
      Don't be fooled by the incessant propaganda of the west.
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      Corruption in azeristan has been going on for decades yet all the shekelists are all singing the same tune on the same day.
      Even the carpet muncher shekelist is at it now. Video around 6:30 lots of mumbling

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNEekXU2pv4

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      Quote Originally Posted by Artashes View Post
      I agree with you on the benefit of a strong currency. I also agree that the perceived downside to a strong currency is more like economic voodoo than a real detriment.
      However, concerning the ruble, I disagree.
      The ruble is paying for all the aid to Syria. The ruble is paying for all the thousands of sorties flown in Syria. All the airport and harbor in Syria. All the production of SU35s, SU30s, KA52s etc, etc, ...
      The west's contrived picture of Russia is in large part propaganda.
      For a country who's economy is radically smaller than USA/cohorts, they (and ruble) are doing incredible things.
      Don't be fooled by the incessant propaganda of the west.
      It is tied heavily to energy prices though. For an industrial nation, the lack of an open economy really puts question to the Ruble's legitimacy. However, totally agree with you that it is supporting the Syrians, and not detracting from Russia is able to do.

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      http://www.eurasianet.org/node/82696

      Georgia getting rid of fighter jets and replacing them with drones, this is the correct way for Armenia s well. We can field 5 times as many drones as fighter aircrafts, save on pilot costs/lives.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HyeSocialist View Post
      It really doesn't. Swiss and Germans, Swedes and Japanese, all still manage to be strong exporters. The goal is to create a competitive economy and not live like some kind of peasants.

      A stronger currency means confidence in the AMD. Means that you are not really at the crutch of the toilet paper known as the ruble.
      Yes it does as it makes everything bought from your country more expensive to others. The only reason the examples you gave successfully export is because they managed to make things that are not only superior to the competition, but also are difficult to copy. Things like carbon fiber used in German cars is difficult to replicate. Germany has a strategy designed to achieve such advantages by bringing together its industries and education systems together. I only wish we had such organization and planning in Hayastan. Economic concepts like the value of a currency have both positive and negative consequences either way you go with them. The key to success regarding currency is stability.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Haykakan View Post
      Yes it does as it makes everything bought from your country more expensive to others. The only reason the examples you gave successfully export is because they managed to make things that are not only superior to the competition, but also are difficult to copy. Things like carbon fiber used in German cars is difficult to replicate. Germany has a strategy designed to achieve such advantages by bringing together its industries and education systems together. I only wish we had such organization and planning in Hayastan. Economic concepts like the value of a currency have both positive and negative consequences either way you go with them. The key to success regarding currency is stability.
      It is not completely impossible to have this. Estonia had this. Again, it is constantly repeated here again and again, the oligarchy are really pieces of sh*t. It's coming to be the same thing here in the US where the wealthy seem to think that it is completely ok to justify their actions of wealth concentration.

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      All this talk about economy is hollow and hopeless. As long as the Western Turks and Eastern Turks blockade the border, there can be no "competitive economy". No Switzerland or Austria. As long as the blockade is up by Armenia's two biggest neighbors, Armenia's economic gains will always be hindered. Armenia is at war with not only Azerbaijan, but with Turkey as well. A blockade is an act of war. Turkey is indeed a party to this feud. Any talk of economics should be grounded upon this understanding of Armenia's ordeal. However, this problem the nation must stand against does not mean that the rats that hold sway over Armenia's industries are to be forgiven or trusted. They must go.


      Building Armenia's wealth and livelihood comes after. Now, it is time for war.
      Last edited by Lori; 03-07-2017 at 03:08 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lori View Post
      All this talk about economy is hollow and hopeless. As long as the Western Turks and Eastern Turks blockade the border, there can be no "competitive economy". No Switzerland or Austria. As long as the blockade is up by Armenia's two biggest neighbors, Armenia's economic gains will always be hindered. Armenia is at war with not only Azerbaijan, but with Turkey as well. A blockade is an act of war. Turkey is indeed a party to this feud. Any talk of economics should be grounded upon this understanding of Armenia's ordeal. However, this problem the nation must stand against does not mean that the rats that hold sway over Armenia's industries are to be forgiven or trusted. They must go.


      Building Armenia's wealth and livelihood comes after. Now, it is time for war.
      False! We live in the digital age. An export isn't just automobiles and machinery! Exports are Financial Services, IT services, ENTERTAINMENT, ATHLETES, and TOURISM. We can definitely EXPORT a lot more than the blockades try to stop. Be creative, be vigilant. The Turks aren't going away any time soon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HyeSocialist View Post
      False! We live in the digital age. An export isn't just automobiles and machinery! Exports are Financial Services, IT services, ENTERTAINMENT, ATHLETES, and TOURISM. We can definitely EXPORT a lot more than the blockades try to stop. Be creative, be vigilant. The Turks aren't going away any time soon.
      Thats true, automobiles and machinery aren't the only things that can be exported or imported. There is also foods, goods, minerals, metals, and natural resources. There are a sundry of things that must be exported through borders. Do you truly believe that a nation of 3 million can live off of basketball players, crappy films, telemarketing, and socially inept Western European tourists? Those kinds of exports are not substantial, well unless Armenia was as big as Monaco.


      The lack of a border with Russia and being landlocked not only hinders economic progress and access to resources, it also hinders Armenia's ability to get help from the outside world and her friends. Russia only has 3-4 thousand troops in Armenia. If war broke out with Turkey and Azerbaijan, how would Russia send men to strengthen the frontline in Armenia? Teleport them?


      We should have one goal: Land corridor to the black sea. Anything else is nonsense. If you know the history of interwar Poland and the Danzig corridor, you will understand why its so important. Mainly with two genocidal neighbors.
      Last edited by Lori; 03-07-2017 at 05:22 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lori View Post
      Thats true, automobiles and machinery aren't the only things that can be exported or imported. There is also foods, goods, minerals, metals, and natural resources. There are a sundry of things that must be exported through borders. Do you truly believe that a nation of 3 million can live off of basketball players, crappy films, telemarketing, and socially inept Western European tourists? Those kinds of exports are not substantial, well unless Armenia was as big as Monaco.


      The lack of a border with Russia and being landlocked not only hinders economic progress and access to resources, it also hinders Armenia's ability to get help from the outside world and her friends. Russia only has 3-4 thousand troops in Armenia. If war broke out with Turkey and Azerbaijan, how would Russia send men to strengthen the frontline in Armenia? Teleport them?


      We should have one goal: Land corridor to the black sea. Anything else is nonsense. If you know the history of interwar Poland and the Danzig corridor, you will understand why its so important. Mainly with two genocidal neighbors.
      Land corridor to the black sea. OK. Fantastic. We can be like Djibouti and Somalia, nations with access to the water yet no idea what to do with it. The argument I am trying to make is that the whole concept of Armenia taking over Azerbaijan or expanding the geography of the country is largely not going to happen. They are political ideologies that distract from making what we have better and competitive.

      Industrializing and improving Armenia's economy is as much part of defeating Azerbaijan and the Turks and making Armenia the better state than all this muscle flexing of weaponary.

      Look at the two Koreas. No one would argue that the North is winning anything, which is why they're developing nukes. They're essentially failed states that have nothing else but political blackmail going for them.

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