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      Quote Originally Posted by Haykakan View Post
      About time! If they did this every time the azeris would xxxx their pants before considering another attack.
      Agreed. How about we go on more of an offensive and start testing their defense lines now! How about we put those retards who are busy bullying and killing each other in the barracks on something more productive like a security patrol, or monitoring a UAV or sentry station remotely. Idle hands and hot tempers? Put these fools to work and beat that macho nonsense out of them.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Haykakan View Post
      About time! If they did this every time the azeris would xxxx their pants before considering another attack.
      Unfortunately our soft and defensive posture have created a climate of arrogance on the azeri side. We will reap what we sew for a long time (including the 2nd war). Our civilians and boys at the trenches pay the price.

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      A lot of news outlets covered it but not as mainstream news. It was on the front page of some mainstream media sources, but again Trump is the main focus these days.

      It looks like Kurds were the main ones protesting and getting beat down. The Turks really are disgusting. But again, I see this as another failure of Armenians to capitalize on the situation.

      Azerbaijan attacks us and Turkish dogs bite Kurds. Armenia could have taken the high road and said, look, we're a people and country that don't do this, and we are Christian, or Secular, or whatever, and we are being attacked by these fundamentalists. It garners massive support from a lot of movements throughout the world. But since Armenia isn't on the high road and disorganized, it doesn't really have the ability to do that.

      Furthermore, you can see the commentary on those articles about Azerbaijan destroying Armenia blah blah. Notice how there are people who are actively supporting Armenians and actively supporting Azerbaijan based on religion? Why are we not getting help from those who are supporting us? Again, a lack of moral high ground displayed by Armenia's leadership. Israel capitalizes on America's religious groups to see Israel has the holy land they need to protect. Europeans protect Jews from discrimination at home, even deploy military personnel to protect their temples and schools. Armenians get beat up by Turks in DC and attacked by Azeris in Karabakh and no one gives a xxxx? Again, a failure on the Armenian government.
      Please do not compare us to Israel. Two diffrent entities.
      Even Putin and Russians are getting pummeled by mainstream media bias. j e ws own it. Unless they have a problem with Turks or erqaqan, you won't see any mention in media even if you busted yourself.

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      Diehard wasn't it the tow missile fired off of the Abram tank the decisive factor in the Gulf tank war? tx
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      Quote Originally Posted by Haykakan View Post
      About time! If they did this every time the azeris would xxxx their pants before considering another attack.
      A defensive doctrine.....hit back ASAP and remove (preempt) their ability to attack again from that area, in due time, make life miserable.
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      Guys, bear in mind that if you support Armenia going on the offensive, be ready to accept higher than normal Armenian casualties as well. Not every offensive adventure will finish clean and crisp. Sometimes, things will go wrong and when they do, make sure you're not the first one to be angry about it.
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      I think Fed some of the guys are thinking that we are loosing soldiers by sniper fire, might ad well loose them in a meaningful attack.
      With that said casulties can be higher in an operation but it had the potential to reduce future soldier's death in the future.
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      Quote Originally Posted by HyeSocialist View Post

      Furthermore, you can see the commentary on those articles about Azerbaijan destroying Armenia blah blah. Notice how there are people who are actively supporting Armenians and actively supporting Azerbaijan based on religion? Why are we not getting help from those who are supporting us? Again, a lack of moral high ground displayed by Armenia's leadership. Israel capitalizes on America's religious groups to see Israel has the holy land they need to protect. Europeans protect Jews from discrimination at home, even deploy military personnel to protect their temples and schools. Armenians get beat up by Turks in DC and attacked by Azeris in Karabakh and no one gives a xxxx? Again, a failure on the Armenian government.
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      Nagorno-Karabakh young soldiers' lives in limbo

      “All men and women of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic are part of the army, but we cannot say how many soldiers are now operative over the frontline” explains an official from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Stepanakert. Almost one year after the April War an ordinary life is going on among villages and streets of the Armenia-backed unrecognised nation. All the aspiring republic’s inhabitants clearly remember the destructive violence of the decades-old conflict. Some of them aspire for a resolution. They believe in a better future to live for the next generations. The conflict started in 1988 and escalated into full-scale war when the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991. Armenians went to war with Azerbaijan, with backing from Armenia. The conflict left 65,000 ethnic Armenians and 40,000 ethnic Azeris displaced. While a cease-fire was declared in May 1994 and the violence abated, soldiers are still engaged in defending their positions over the frontline and required training in military bases. Final negotiations are taking place in Moscow but the ceasefire is regularly broken with casualties on both sides. Few days before I was there one of the Artsakh young soldiers was shot by Azeri snipers and injured. Transferred to the hospital in Yerevan, his life is still on risk. Clashes between the Azerbaijani and ethnic Armenian forces over the breakaway enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh last year were the worst violence the region has seen since the ethnic war over the territory ended in 1994. Azerbaijan boasted of “destroying” 170 opposing troops, while sources from the Armenian Karabakhi forces estimated they had killed 300 Azeri soldiers. In the village of Talish, Azeris forces entered houses killing four old-men. Their ears were brutally cut off. Traces of those raids are still visible walking through bombed-out houses, shops and destroyed schools. Locals were transferred to near villages, where they found relatives and neighbours. The border territory is now full of military camps and bases proving how military life is not over. In Stepanakert, the capital, a military academy substituted the traditional high-school. Male and female teenagers aged 13-18 are learning maths, history and english after physical exercises and marches. Unemployment is high, salaries are low, opportunities are few; the young continue to leave in search of better futures abroad. When Artsakh men reach 18 years-old they are whisked away for two years of military national service. That’s what it means living in a region stalked by conflict: security measures trump most other considerations.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Eddo211 View Post
      Diehard wasn't it the tow missile fired off of the Abram tank the decisive factor in the Gulf tank war? tx
      Those were one of the reasons why the US won, but 50% of the entire reason was, because most of the 'T-72's' weren't really T-72's, they were literately a downgrade of a downgrade of a downgrade, even the shells weren't even properly designed, the tanks were so bad that when a Abrams shot those T-72's they literately exploded into millions of pieces.

      You can wright "Tank Disasters Asad Babil" and it will explain everything.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DieHard69 View Post
      Those were one of the reasons why the US won, but 50% of the entire reason was, because most of the 'T-72's' weren't really T-72's, they were literately a downgrade of a downgrade of a downgrade, even the shells weren't even properly designed, the tanks were so bad that when a Abrams shot those T-72's they literately exploded into millions of pieces.

      You can wright "Tank Disasters Asad Babil" and it will explain everything.
      http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/mo...Asad-Babil.php

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