Conferderacy of Morons: The New Thread

[Steph]

13. Please Read the article below:

You see, by speaking to Armenians in Armenian, we can convince Armenians to drop thier campaign for Genocide recognition. How ingenious




TURKEY APPOINTS DIPLOMATS WITH ARMENIAN LANGUAGE SKILL TO COUNTRIES WITH STRONG ARMENIAN DIASPORA

Azeri Press Agency, Azerbaijan
May 16 2007

Turkish Foreign Ministry will appoint diplomats who know Armenian
language to diplomatic positions in the countries where Armenian
Diaspora is strong. This step is taken for struggling against the
so-called Armenian genocide claim, Diplomatic sources told the APA
Turkish bureau.

Chief of Foreign Ministry's Armenian Office Suleyman Gokcha has been
appointed to Turkish Embassy in US. Except Gokcha, three more Turkish
diplomats speaking Armenian fluently have been appointed to positions
in Turkish Consulates where Armenian Diaspora is strong. Following
this, Turkish Foreign Ministry will continue to qualify diplomats
speaking Armenian fluently.

Inch?

[phantom]

Joseph, I saw this article today, and I couldn't help bursting out in laughter. I know the subject matter is serious and not a laughing matter, but the way the Turks are handling it is beginning to get funny, you have to admit. It's like watching a dog chasing his tail in anger while onlookers point and laugh.

[Gavur]

Will they learn the Eastern or the Western dialect?

[Steph]

J It's like watching a dog chasing his tail in anger while onlookers point and laugh.

Phantom, it's more like a rabid dog with distemper and a bad case of worms.

[Joseph]

Joseph, I saw this article today, and I couldn't help bursting out in laughter. I know the subject matter is serious and not a laughing matter, but the way the Turks are handling it is beginning to get funny, you have to admit. It's like watching a dog chasing his tail in anger while onlookers point and laugh.

It's downright ludicrous. What's the point for them learning Armenian? They are not going to change our minds. It's not going to help them when they lobby on Capital Hill or in Brussels...in Yerevan!?!?! Are they trying to make a point that they are liberalizing by learning a minority's language?
Everything they do is so clumsy and even when they are trying to be clever, they fall flat on their face.

[Joseph]

14. My God, where does one even begin on this one below???

http://english.sabah.com.tr/5923844332DF4251813735713AD54627.html

An?tkabir not in the school books!

The Ministry of Education has detected missing or wrong data about Atatürk in the school books: The name of An?tkabir is missing; the death day of Atatürk is given but the date is missing. The books will be revised by the related commission.



Kemalism retouch to school books

The Ministry of Education is now revising the school books in order to emphasize the Kemalist elements more.

The teachers have rejected to the new school books with the claim that Kemalist elements are included less by 40%. After this claim, the related commission detected the flaws one by one. According to the report, these are some of the missing aspects:

- The death date of Atatürk is missing; the Republican regime and its earnings are not detailed; the innovations that Atatürk brought are not emphasized properly.

- Some facts about Kemalism, such as its target, its style and its scientific basis, are not properly stressed; the secularism element in education is not detailed.

- The fact that the Turkish Armed Forces represent Turkey's national unity and prosperity is not emphasized enough.

- Reading pieces emphasizing Atatürk's candor and love for children are missing; poems about Atatürk's character are not present.

- Atatürk's innovations about the units of measurement and questions about the subject are missing.

- The importance Atatürk laid on rationalism and science is not given properly; the role of science in our life is not stressed and exemplified; Atatürk's sayings about rationalism and science are missing.

[Nick_A]

Hi Joseph

It has become obvious to me that neither the truth or intelligent dialogue is wanted by politicians at heart. These values are only sought after by those within which politics is secondary to morality. I've learned unfortunately that they are few and far between.

[Joseph]

15. Turks claim the are descendents of Hittites, Sumerian, and even Ancient Egyptians---Ataturk's Sun Theory and other claims

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=80467

Quote: "The notorious “Turkish History Thesis” of the 1930s, a state-sponsored doctrine at the time, argued that Turks were the seeds of the finest braches of the human race. The Sumerians, the Hittites and even the Ancient Egyptians were in fact all Turkish — that's why we still have a state company called Sumerbank, and there is a giant Hittite monument in the middle of Ankara."

-Turkish-speaking peoples of an advanced culture lived in Asia Minor nearly ten thousand years ago, we do not have any similar archaeological evidence in greater Asia at corresponding time. Thus we can claim that Anatolia was the first home of the Turks. The Mediterranean culture was not created solely by the Greeks and Romans but more so by these ancient Turkish-speaking peoples

The main impetus for this fantastic claim is linked to the statement made by the late president of the Republic of Azerbaijan Heidar Aliev (1923-2003) who stated that Armenia has no historical basis (Part II, item 3a). There are pan-Turanian activists who truly believe that Armenia is a historical invention; and have even cited “proof” of their assertions. International scholarship has yet to respond to the notion of a Turkic Central Asian origin for the Armenians.

The Armenians are claimed by a number of pan-Turanian ideologues to be simply a “lost” Turkish tribe. No mention is made of the Balkan origins of the Armenians or the fact that they have so many historical links to Achaemenid, Parthian and Sassanian Persia, as well as the Greco-Roman Byzantine Empire (see Part II, item 3a).

The Armenian language is in fact totally unique, despite its many shared features with Iranian languages (see Part II, item 3). Like Greek it is an independent branch of the Indo-European family. Armenian script is also unique (see below left), based most likely on the Proto-Canaanite script. It was Saint Mesrop Mashtots (362-440 AD) (see his statue below right in Oshakan, Armenia) who introduced the Armenian script as we know it today. The only outside influence in Armenian script may be Greek (note the order of the Armenian alphabet and writing from left-to-right)

(1) Greater Azerbaijan was divided between Russia and Persia.

(2) Azerbaijanis have spoken Turkish since the advent of History.

(3) Turks have been in the Caucasus for over 5000 Years.

(4) The Safavid Empire was Turkish.

[Steph]

15. Turks claim the are descendents of Hittites, Sumerian, and even Ancient Egyptians---Ataturk's Sun Theory and other claims

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=80467

Quote: "The notorious “Turkish History Thesis” of the 1930s, a state-sponsored doctrine at the time, argued that Turks were the seeds of the finest braches of the human race. The Sumerians, the Hittites and even the Ancient Egyptians were in fact all Turkish — that's why we still have a state company called Sumerbank, and there is a giant Hittite monument in the middle of Ankara."

-Turkish-speaking peoples of an advanced culture lived in Asia Minor nearly ten thousand years ago, we do not have any similar archaeological evidence in greater Asia at corresponding time. Thus we can claim that Anatolia was the first home of the Turks. The Mediterranean culture was not created solely by the Greeks and Romans but more so by these ancient Turkish-speaking peoples

The main impetus for this fantastic claim is linked to the statement made by the late president of the Republic of Azerbaijan Heidar Aliev (1923-2003) who stated that Armenia has no historical basis (Part II, item 3a). There are pan-Turanian activists who truly believe that Armenia is a historical invention; and have even cited “proof” of their assertions. International scholarship has yet to respond to the notion of a Turkic Central Asian origin for the Armenians.

The Armenians are claimed by a number of pan-Turanian ideologues to be simply a “lost” Turkish tribe. No mention is made of the Balkan origins of the Armenians or the fact that they have so many historical links to Achaemenid, Parthian and Sassanian Persia, as well as the Greco-Roman Byzantine Empire (see Part II, item 3a).

The Armenian language is in fact totally unique, despite its many shared features with Iranian languages (see Part II, item 3). Like Greek it is an independent branch of the Indo-European family. Armenian script is also unique (see below left), based most likely on the Proto-Canaanite script. It was Saint Mesrop Mashtots (362-440 AD) (see his statue below right in Oshakan, Armenia) who introduced the Armenian script as we know it today. The only outside influence in Armenian script may be Greek (note the order of the Armenian alphabet and writing from left-to-right)

(1) Greater Azerbaijan was divided between Russia and Persia.

(2) Azerbaijanis have spoken Turkish since the advent of History.

(3) Turks have been in the Caucasus for over 5000 Years.

(4) The Safavid Empire was Turkish.

Really. this article gives us no new impressions on hysterical facts!
Steph esheg turkoglu

[Joseph]

Really. this article gives us no new impressions on hysterical facts!
Steph esheg turkoglu

My dear Mr. Turkoglu, I'm sorry to have offended your "Turkishness"