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Mensoian: Translating the A.R.F. Roadmap to Regime Change into Action (Part II)

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  • #11
    Re: Mensoian: Translating the A.R.F. Roadmap to Regime Change into Action (Part II)

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    Thanks for the reply, very interesting.
    No problem. It is a pleasure.

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      Re: Mensoian: Translating the A.R.F. Roadmap to Regime Change into Action (Part II)

      Մահ կամ ազատութիւն Անուշ ջան

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        Re: Mensoian: Translating the A.R.F. Roadmap to Regime Change into Action (Part II)

        Originally posted by iversonmania View Post
        I was too young to understand politics back then. but can someone inform me, why tashnag banned from armenia back then and what happened?

        I also hear it reached even jailing ARF figures from outside armenia ( like shahe barsoumian in lebanon was jailed ..)
        Back than in begining of 90s there was an antinational regim og Levon in power. They hated everything they couldnt controll. Thankfully they are long gone but not far....

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          Re: Mensoian: Translating the A.R.F. Roadmap to Regime Change into Action (Part II)

          Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
          Because they are ultra nationalists, and the Soviet regime wouldn't led these groups to raise to power or have any influence in any of the Soviet republics because they meant a danger to the security of the USSR, something they couldn't allow. That's why they banned and kicked them out of the Armenian SSR, but they kept strong in the diaspora

          I think the question was about more recent events....

          Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
          (and not in every diaspora, because my country's Armenian diaspora has no Dashnaks and wouldn't accept them to come)
          Originally posted by ashot24 View Post


          Well what you say is very waired, as I know there are strong Dashnak organizations in Urugvay and Argentina.

          Also no wonder that run aways from their own country wouldnt like real patriots there...
          Last edited by Mukuch; 01-07-2010, 07:57 AM.

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            Re: Mensoian: Translating the A.R.F. Roadmap to Regime Change into Action (Part II)

            Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
            I think the question was about more recent events....
            Yeah, but it's also good to know recent events were influenced by past issues.

            Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
            Well what you say is very waired, as I know there are strong Dashnak organizations in Urugvay and Argentina.
            Yes there are, there are also in Colombia, Venezuela, and Peru, all of them countries near to us. Ecuador is the exception, why? Well, we aren't even considered a social minority here, hence there are no real census of Armenians living in Ecuador because we don't even make a little number in the population's percentage. Me and my friends did a census ourselves, and we were about 200 people back in 2007, and now we're less because many have returned to Armenia, which let me tell you is a complete odyssey.

            Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
            Also no wonder that run aways from their own country wouldnt like real patriots there...
            Yeah of course...

            Look, we have done so much in this country to fight for it to recognize the Armenian Genocide, and because of what we've done so far it is taught as part of History in all high schools and universities in a compulsory way. We have fought to build a little church, memorials, etc. we have asked endlessly for the government and the international embassies here to provide us with a connection to Armenia and to help us sending little contributions to our homeland, we have fought to keep our culture alive and have organized conventions and participated representing Armenia and her culture within contests and programs around the country, and many many more...and all of this being middle-class people in a country where other diaspora minorities are wealthy people with high social status and with dozens of international organizations providing them with money, while we all have to do things investing from our pockets.

            Oh we are patriotic, but then again I don't know what your definition of 'patriot' is. We have never needed anyone to remember us where we come from or anyone helping us to achieve the little things we've achieved. If that isn't real patriotism, then I don't know what it is.
            Last edited by ashot24; 01-07-2010, 11:39 AM.

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