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    Dmitry Medvedev is een Armenier (Dutch to English translation)
    (Translation from Dutch)
    June 18, 2009

    This afternoon during the BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China) press
    conference a Russian journalist to RIA Novosti asked Russian President
    Dmitry Medvedev if he has xxxish ancestry?

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev replied that the rumors about his
    xxxish ancestry are inaccurate. He added that his ancestors are from
    Adana (Western Armenia in Turkey now) but he was born in Russia. He
    added in "I want everyone to be clear that I am Armenan, surname of my
    mother was Naxshikyan what the word Naxshik comes oudarmeens. The
    surname of my father was Bagratyan. This name is also purely
    Armenian. I was forced to change name to be head of Russian secret
    service (KGB) in France to work the cold war times. Since France had
    large Armenian community should not Arms Irish secret service agent
    working in France. That I have an Armenian surname changed to
    Russian. I am 100% Armenian. Finally the Russian President says he is
    proud of his Armenian parents and ancestors.
    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    False News of Russian President’s Armenian Ancestry Spread in Armenian Cyberspace

    WATERTOWN, Mass. (A.W.)—A news item alleging that Russian President Dmitry Medvedev is Armenian, posted on June 18 on the website of De Weekkrant in Dutch, has finally made it to Armenian hands and was being [...]

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      Re: Dmitri Medvedev is an Armenian

      I was pretty doubtful too.

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        Re: Dmitri Medvedev is an Armenian

        Sorry guys and
        thanks for the correction
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          Re: Dmitri Medvedev is an Armenian

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post
          Sorry guys and
          thanks for the correction
          When a person becomes leader (deputy) of a country with other nationality he is always preoccupied with the idea of proving devotion to them and at dealing with the country of his own nationality chooses the worst scenario cases for the later.

          Because Russia nowadays, surprisingly, deals with Armenia as a foe, I doubt that there is some truth in Medvedev’s case. Saakashvili is a perfect example of it.

          Stalin’s case is different because he led a multinational country.
          Last edited by gegev; 12-28-2009, 10:14 PM.

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            Re: Dmitri Medvedev is an Armenian

            Originally posted by gegev View Post
            Because Russia nowadays, surprisingly, deals with Armenia as a foe, I doubt that there is some truth in Medvedev’s case. Saakashvili is a perfect example of it.

            Stalin’s case is different because he led a multinational country.
            Russia doesn't considers Armenia as a foe, what gives you reasons to believe that? Nor Armenian people or Russian people consider each other's foes, of course there are stupid nazi Russian people who held hate towards Armenians and every other people who's not Russian inside Russia, as there is in every country, and which I consider stupid because Russia is a soup of cultures inside a nation. Why do you think Russia deals with Armenia as a foe?

            And Stalin was no multinational person, he was a Georgian-ashamed Russian-wannabe who loved Russia over his own nationality and held prejudice against other people's culture and history. He was ashamed of his people because the Bolsheviks mocked him because of being Caucasian and not Slav, Trotsky himself had his issues with him because of Stalin being such a complexed person, because he believed Stalin, not being an ethnic Russian, would promote Russian nationalism over every other people's nationalism and culture and history in order to satisfy his complexes. Stalin was a poor person living under his own complexes.

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              Re: Dmitri Medvedev is an Armenian

              Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
              Russia doesn't considers Armenia as a foe, what gives you reasons to believe that? Nor Armenian people or Russian people consider each other's foes, of course there are stupid nazi Russian people who held hate towards Armenians and every other people who's not Russian inside Russia, as there is in every country, and which I consider stupid because Russia is a soup of cultures inside a nation. Why do you think Russia deals with Armenia as a foe?
              Russia joined USA, EU and enforced Armenia to sign the Armenian-Turkish Protocol, which validates the invalid Kars treaty and makes AG questionable historical event. It was the price Russia “paid” to get Turkey’s agreement on building the gas pipeline, at the Armenia’s expense. Is it a friendly behavior?

              Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
              And Stalin was no multinational person, he was a Georgian-ashamed Russian-wannabe who loved Russia over his own nationality and held prejudice against other people's culture and history. He was ashamed of his people because the Bolsheviks mocked him because of being Caucasian and not Slav, Trotsky himself had his issues with him because of Stalin being such a complexed person, because he believed Stalin, not being an ethnic Russian, would promote Russian nationalism over every other people's nationalism and culture and history in order to satisfy his complexes. Stalin was a poor person living under his own complexes.
              I was not talking about Stalin’s nationality. Multinational refers to the USSR.
              Last edited by gegev; 12-29-2009, 11:39 AM.

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                Re: Dmitri Medvedev is an Armenian

                Originally posted by gegev View Post
                Russia joined USA, EU and enforced Armenia to sign the Armenian-Turkish Protocol, which validates the invalid Kars treaty and makes AG questionable historical event. It was the price Russia “paid” to get Turkey’s agreement on building the gas pipeline, at the Armenia’s expense. Is it a friendly behavior?
                Oh OK, well I don't see things like that but it's OK. I just recall that Russia recognizes the Armenian Genocide, and helps Armenia in many areas. There is no sense in trying to look bad or trying to create problems between us and the Russians when there are none, we get along and many Armenians consider them their friends, as well as Russians do, and many other Slavic nations consider us their friends, such as Ukraine and Serbia.
                Last edited by ashot24; 12-29-2009, 02:50 PM.

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                  Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
                  Oh OK, well I don't see things like that but it's OK. I just recall that Russia recognizes the Armenian Genocide, and helps Armenia in many areas. There is no sense in trying to look bad or trying to create problems between us and the Russians when there are none, we get along and many Armenians consider them their friends, as well as Russians do, and many other Slavic nations consider us their friends, such as Ukraine and Serbia.
                  Not sure about ukraine, they help azerbaijan quite a bit. I think Bulgaria, and Slovakia are much more friendly toward Armenia and Armenians in general.
                  For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                  to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                  http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                    Re: Dmitri Medvedev is an Armenian

                    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                    Not sure about ukraine, they help azerbaijan quite a bit. I think Bulgaria, and Slovakia are much more friendly toward Armenia and Armenians in general.
                    Armanen is right. Screw Ukraine for now, them and their GUAM. Things will change when Viktor Yanukovich is back in power though, coming soon to an election near you.
                    Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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