Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

    Mon, Jan 18 2010 10:34 CET



    Mehmet Ali Agca makes a fist in a car as he is released from the prison in Ankara on January 18 2009.

    Mehmet Ali Ağca, who attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul II in 1981, has been released from prison in Turkey, the BBC said on January 18 2010.

    Reports in Turkish media said that Ağca would now undergo a physical examination at the Gülhane Military Academy of Medicine to assess his fitness for military service. Although Ağca is now 52 he is technically eligible for military service, having failed to serve in the Turkish military in the first place.

    A military hospital , however, had ruled in 2006 that he was unfit for mandatory service due to a "severe anti-social personality disorder", Turkish Zaman Daily said. This report was, however, found to be unsound by the defence ministry’s health department, Zaman said.

    Ağca,s lawyer, Hacı Ali Özhan, was quoted as saying "Ağca is shocked and disappointed that he might be conscripted into military service". Özhan also said: "It is against his religious and philosophical beliefs to bear arms. There will also be difficulties in protecting Mehmet Ali Ağca’s life where thousands of people carry weapons."

    A Turkish law allows individuals who spend many years in prison to declare themselves ineligible for military service.

    According to world media, Ağca has already set a price for telling his story. This includes a two million euro fee for an interview and another five million euro for the rights to two books he has already written.

    Ağca served 19 years in an Italian prison for shooting Pope John Paul II, and another 10 years in Turkey for the earlier murder of a newspaper editor.

    Ağca's real motives for shooting Pope John Paul II are unclear, however, particularly in light of his constantly changing his motive - reportedly more than 100 times during the trial in Italy for the attack.

    On one occasion Ağca said that Bulgaria and the (former) Soviet Union were behind the attempted assassination. He subsequently reversed these claims and even stated that he was a new messiah.

    However, his words were enough to tarnish Bulgaria's reputation and today many still talk about the "Bulgarian link" in the assassination against Pope John Paul II although the pontiff publicly rejected these claims during his 2002 visit to Bulgaria. "I have never believed that Bulgaria was behind the attack," he said at the time.

    In 1983 John Paul himself announced he had forgiven Ağca after meeting him.



    Three Bulgarians and three other Turkish nationals were also put on trial by Italian authorities as part of the court case against Ağca. They were all acquitted.

    One of these defendants, Bulgarian Sergei Antonov, who in 1981 was deputy head of the Rome desk of Bulgaria's Balkan Airlines, took the most serious blow during the trial.

    Antonov was acquitted on March 29 1986 due to "lack of sufficient evidence." After remaining in jail for three years, he returned to Bulgaria and lived quietly with his elderly mother, reportedly in poor mental health. He died alone in 2007 having apparently never recovered from the trauma of his detention in Italian custody.
    B0zkurt Hunter

  • #2
    Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

    He says KGB ordered him to kill the Pope.............I say this scumbag needs to be hunted down and put away for good. Impalement and covered with pig skin comes to mind.

    Sorry.......I don't like GrayWolves.
    B0zkurt Hunter

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

      Unfortunately turcky is full of these nuttjobs, they are a product of turckish racism/ultranationalism.
      Hayastan or Bust.

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

        Rome wants Turkey back so they can rebuild the Empire.... this guy was onto their plan.
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

          He's still alive, Jesus, I thought he died ages ago...and if the KGB ordered, why would they take the Grey Wolves, a far right wing movement that aided Anti Communism alongside Gladio to do the job, cool story Mehmet, fictional tales always fetch the most bucks

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

            Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
            He's still alive, Jesus, I thought he died ages ago...and if the KGB ordered, why would they take the Grey Wolves, a far right wing movement that aided Anti Communism alongside Gladio to do the job, cool story Mehmet, fictional tales always fetch the most bucks
            What did you expect Pedro, for him to be wearing his communist party membership card in his pocket? Surely you can't be that naive? Agca was an assasin for hire with the IQ of a cement mixer. He was paid by the KGB via the Bulgarian secret service to knock off the Pope because they were worried that his Polish catholic roots would dilute communist influence and authority in Poland and Eastern europe. That was around the height of the cold war. By definition communists are anti religion.

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

              Originally posted by Jos View Post
              What did you expect Pedro, for him to be wearing his communist party membership card in his pocket? Surely you can't be that naive? Agca was an assasin for hire with the IQ of a cement mixer. He was paid by the KGB via the Bulgarian secret service to knock off the Pope because they were worried that his Polish catholic roots would dilute communist influence and authority in Poland and Eastern europe. That was around the height of the cold war. By definition communists are anti religion.
              Actually, he was a member of the Grey Wolves and killed quite a few Left Wingers in Turkey, he admitted he is far right, soviets wouldn't work with him

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

                Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
                ....soviets wouldn't work with him
                omg, wanna buy some swamp land, going real cheap...
                You should say Soviets wouldn't want to be "seen" working with him but absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, they would hire him if it suited their political objectives. Just like how the US indirectly hired Osama during the Soviet-Afgan war, no difference.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

                  Originally posted by Jos View Post
                  omg, wanna buy some swamp land, going real cheap...
                  You should say Soviets wouldn't want to be "seen" working with him but absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, they would hire him if it suited their political objectives. Just like how the US indirectly hired Osama during the Soviet-Afgan war, no difference.
                  Վայ անամոտ էս իսկականից՝

                  Look, he was a Grey Wolf, xxxkurtlari to you, they don't do Socialism, they are Islamofascists and racists, they hate Christianity and Socialism, good God read up and drop your Kemalist books please, even he says he isn't socialist or with the KGB, he just recently said that

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Mehmet Ali Ağca leaves prison, wants money for his story

                    Originally posted by Pedro Xaramillo View Post
                    Վայ անամոտ էս իսկականից՝

                    Look, he was a Grey Wolf, xxxkurtlari to you, they don't do Socialism, they are Islamofascists and racists, they hate Christianity and Socialism, good God read up and drop your Kemalist books please, even he says he isn't socialist or with the KGB, he just recently said that
                    Your missing the point, maybe deliberately? Ağca was a low life thug, a gun for hire. He would have done Mother Theresa for the right price. It had nothing to do with his personal ideology, Grey Wolf or socialism etc. Just dirty cash paid by the highest bidder which happened to be the KGB. Believe it.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X