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What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

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  • #11
    Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

    Originally posted by Tali View Post
    Uh, Yedtarts, I wasn't referring to me I'm not a male and I'm not Armenian. I was referring to the Armenians that I know who are my age.

    I should've been clearer. But i guess that's the essence of it?
    The males your age try to be like the losers they see on tv and the females encourage it. It's a match made in hell.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #12
      Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

      Hmm... I haven't really thought of that.
      I don't think I encourage it. Then again, I haven't really analyzed it that way.

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      • #13
        Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

        Originally posted by Tali View Post
        I hope Levon responds to this. He gave the idea, in a round about way. He said how females are not the judges of men and what they should be/do.
        Most women will have very woman-centric definitions of what a men should be. In fact, these definitions often turn in the direction of what men are supposed to do for women,
        or how men are supposed to treat women. It's impossible for most women to take themselves out of the definition. It's a sort of arrogance that has developed through the years
        of loser males kissing their asses and doing just about anything to get them to bed. So the loser males do everything possible to fit into what women claim men should be.

        Women know this very well, some instinctively, and others consciously. Haven't you ever heard a woman say "What kind of man does that, shame on you?" And it's funny on two levels.
        Firstly, the woman who utters these words does so feeling as if she is the ultimate authority on anything man, as if her words, her opinions make or break a man, and secondly, the man who
        hears these words puts infinite value on the woman's opinion, again, thinking that her opinion alone makes him a man, and if he doesn't fit her definition, then somehow he is not a man.
        Thus, he externalizes the definition of man onto an outside authority

        However, if a male externalizes the idea of man from within himself to some outside authority, whatever it might be, he, in essence, loses his manhood and becomes a puppet to whomever
        tells him what a man should be. In the majority of cases, most males look to women and the media to find out what it takes to be a man, thus, forever become puppets of their own insecurities,
        as first and foremost, a man looks to himself for confidence, not anybody else (of course, this concept is foreign to many males, and almost all women).

        There is a difference between knowing a definition and understanding it. A man knows the importance of the qualities he has developed over time, but a poser who looks to others
        for definitions only knows imitation and so suffers in character.

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        • #14
          Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

          thanks Levon, I'm really glad you responded

          so in your eyes, what is a man? what traits should he be building upon himself, and not look to women to tell him about?

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          • #15
            Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

            Originally posted by Tali View Post
            thanks Levon, I'm really glad you responded

            so in your eyes, what is a man? what traits should he be building upon himself, and not look to women to tell him about?
            Every man is unique and shouldn't be placed under the "all men are created equal" B.S. It's just Armenian men are more manly than the rest. We are the image of what God intended, lol.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #16
              Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

              that interests me because very few of the Armenian men I have met "offline" are as you guys described

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              • #17
                Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

                Originally posted by Tali View Post
                so in your eyes, what is a man? what traits should he be building upon himself, and not look to women to tell him about?
                "if a male externalizes the idea of man from within himself to some outside authority, whatever it might be, he, in essence, loses his manhood"

                "first and foremost, a man looks to himself for confidence, not anybody else"

                It's up to every man to define himself. I only know myself, and my definition will be biased towards my values and goals. It cannot really apply to others. As long as one looks to himself for confidence and strength, things have a way of just going the right way (this applies to women as well).

                Originally posted by KanadaHye
                It's just Armenian men are more manly than the rest. We are the image of what God intended, lol.
                Well said.

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                • #18
                  Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

                  Mmm... interesting, very interesting.

                  thanks for the insights

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                  • #19
                    Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

                    Originally posted by Tali View Post
                    that interests me because very few of the Armenian men I have met "offline" are as you guys described
                    There really aren't many men left in the West, so you will likely not encounter many such men in your life.

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                    • #20
                      Re: What is the "ideal Armenian man"?

                      In my particular city, you are right. however, there actually is a "Little Armenia" in Los Angeles.

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