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      Which Orthodox church to join

      I know the Eastern Orthodox are not in communion with the Oriental Orthodox, but if you were/wanted to be Orthodox, but the Armenian Church was not an option, would you join the Coptic, Greek, or Antiochian church, or Orthodox Church of America?

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      How can Armenian Church not be an option? The only true church is the Holy Armenian Apostolic Church!
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      How can Armenian Church not be an option?
      Language for now, drive time, working two jobs during the week and having a mid-day Sunday study group for a class I need to pass for a job. It's for the future. I know there are a couple of Armenians at the local Coptic church and the local Greek church. I have not been to any others yet.

      Quote Originally Posted by Mos View Post
      The only true church is the Holy Armenian Apostolic Church!
      Oh, is that why it is in communion with the Coptic, Syriac, Indian Malankara, and Ethiopian Orthodox churches?

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      There can only be one True path. You must choose wisely.

      Just the fact that there are so many random churches around should tell you something about them all
      this post = teh win.

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      Random? I have hardly set foot in a Protestant/non-denom church in a couple of years.

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      Oh, is that why it is in communion with the Coptic, Syriac, Indian Malankara, and Ethiopian Orthodox churches?
      What does that matter? Our church in fact is rather independent in nature. We have very little to none interaction with those churches.





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      Interesting note about the independence of the Armenian church. The pics don't add much (though they are quite lovely naturally). I have already seen a lot of them online from when I first went to an Armenian Orthodox church a year and a half ago, before an injury, the reassignment of the deacon I was talking with, an almost complete change in my schedule, and a more strongly realized career need to learn another language than Armenian (or any of my other fav languages).

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      Re: Which Orthodox church to join

      Quote Originally Posted by Hyegirl View Post
      Interesting note about the independence of the Armenian church. The pics don't add much (though they are quite lovely naturally). I have already seen a lot of them online from when I first went to an Armenian Orthodox church a year and a half ago, before an injury, the reassignment of the deacon I was talking with, an almost complete change in my schedule, and a more strongly realized career need to learn another language than Armenian (or any of my other fav languages).
      In the Holy Writ there is something about "giving up everything you have for the pearl of great price". The Armenian Church is that great pearl. I would suggest you go to an Armenian Orthodox Church, I don't understand how there is even another option. It is the greatest institution on the face of the earth. You can follow along with the English translation in the liturgy books until you can fit in the time (are you SURE you don't have 30 minutes per day?) to learn Armenian. Plus you will learn a lot of language just by listening every week.

      How can you choose to give up Grigor Narekatsi, Nersess of Lambron, and Nersess Shnorhali? We have such a treasure in our own church. Narekatsi's "Book of Lamentations" is such an expression of Armenian Christianity and is basically inexhaustible in content.

      You shouldn't view the Armenian Church as an obstacle to overcome. Heck, even many people from the OCA (American Orthodox which is a jurisdiction of its own, born out of the Russian tradition) find that understanding Orthodoxy and the Liturgy as taken them 5 or more years...

      I would strongly argue against joining Coptic/Syriac church, based on the fact that although sometimes they might do their liturgies in English, there is a lot of cultural baggage that comes along with these churches which as an American-born person, you will probably not understand. It is a different world-view, where as 9 times out of 10 the Armenian Church usually bridges that gap for Americans. Even if you happen to stumble upon a more "foreign" Armenian church, at least you will be learning YOUR culture! Also, Antiochian church is not in communion with us, they are in communion with the Greeks.
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      Re: Which Orthodox church to join

      I'd check em all out, I'd probably learn something interesting
      I was taught how to think.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jgk3 View Post
      I'd check em all out, I'd probably learn something interesting
      Huh. I forgot about this thread. I'm going to check out others, but my chrismation will be Armenian, and is coming up soon. My Armenian is still bad, but I visited one with an American-born priest when I stayed at a friend's place for an event.
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      I think the Choir in the armenian church is one of the things i liked about our church. The person doing the preaching has a lot to do with someone liking one church over another. We had a preachere "dont know about official church title) here who was a very spiritual and caring person and someone like that is easy to spend a couple hours listening to. There have also been plenty of preachers who were vulgar or lead their sermun like a drill sargent and these were not very pleasent. If you actually listen to what the preachers say you will get a good idea about what kind of a person he is and if you want to be seeeing him on a sunday. Some armenian preachers have said very stupid things in mass while others have been smart in a spiritual way. People and speech skills and the intellect of the preacher may be the difference in the decision making. I have seen both good and bad in the same church many times so even if you find what you like today it may not stay that way.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      I really like this priest. I'm also glad that even if I don't stay there for long, I will be officially Orthodox.

      I don't know what to wear to my chrismation. Any suggestions anyone?

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      Orthodox?? You mean Armenian Apostolic?
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      Orthodox?? You mean Armenian Apostolic?
      Ayo. Wasn't it called Orthodox though until the Soviets took over or somehow Russia got more involved and the Russian/Eastern Orthodox wanted to keep that name to themselves? Or was it the other way around?

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      Ayo. Wasn't it called Orthodox though until the Soviets took over or somehow Russia got more involved and the Russian/Eastern Orthodox wanted to keep that name to themselves? Or was it the other way around?
      Well it's better to refer to it as Apostolic. This also lessens confusion, since 'orthodox' label is often times confused for "Eastern Orthodox" which Armenian Church isn't part of. We have a rather independent Church, in communion with Syriac and Coptic Churches. We notably reject the Council of Chalcedon We are more accurately a Miaphysite Churche, as with that rejection, we believe that Jesus Christ had one single nature rather than 2.
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