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      Thanks Tigranakert, you said it rather eloquently.
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      "Conclusion lampdumb: you are Mr. Bullxxxx. Congratulations. "

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      thanks for posting that Tigranakert glad to see that we are doing well in Russia. It is good this brotherly relations we have with them. Now if only more of us Western Armenians understood this it would be that much better.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tigranakert View Post
      Furthermore, an average European also does not see a difference between Armenians and Turks. That is how average people are. Educated Russians, Russians that do matter, Russians that do have control / power, respect Armenians, know who we are, where we come from, and what we contributed. This cannot be said of educated Europeans regarding Armenians.
      You are living in a fantasy world and this is mere hubris.
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      Quote Originally Posted by retro View Post
      You are living in a fantasy world and this is mere hubris.
      You never lived in the real world, and this is mere rubbish.

      I repeat, an average European, be it a Dutchman, a German, or an Englishman sees and treats an Armenian just as he sees and treats a Turk, there is no difference in this. An "educated" European, (thus Dutchman / Germans etc. in universities and the higher echelons of life), also do not know what an Armenian is, what an Armenian represents, and looks the same way at an Armenian as he looks at another foreigner from Turkey, Egypt or whatever country. The only exception is France, as there is a larger Armenian community, albeit totally assimilated, as in France the encouragement to assimilate into the Western pop-culture is much greater than in Russia, where ethnic diversity is stimulated and cheered at in the higher echelons of life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tigranakert View Post
      You never lived in the real world, and this is mere rubbish.

      I repeat, an average European, be it a Dutchman, a German, or an Englishman sees and treats an Armenian just as he sees and treats a Turk, there is no difference in this. An "educated" European, (thus Dutchman / Germans etc. in universities and the higher echelons of life), also do not know what an Armenian is, what an Armenian represents, and looks the same way at an Armenian as he looks at another foreigner from Turkey, Egypt or whatever country. The only exception is France, as there is a larger Armenian community, albeit totally assimilated, as in France the encouragement to assimilate into the Western pop-culture is much greater than in Russia, where ethnic diversity is stimulated and cheered at in the higher echelons of life.
      do majority of armenian russians speak armenian? so far i've only seen one guy, he looked russian, had parents from Artsakh, his parents tought him. he's like a grain in the sand.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tigranakert View Post
      You never lived in the real world, and this is mere rubbish.

      I repeat, an average European, be it a Dutchman, a German, or an Englishman sees and treats an Armenian just as he sees and treats a Turk, there is no difference in this. An "educated" European, (thus Dutchman / Germans etc. in universities and the higher echelons of life), also do not know what an Armenian is, what an Armenian represents, and looks the same way at an Armenian as he looks at another foreigner from Turkey, Egypt or whatever country. The only exception is France, as there is a larger Armenian community, albeit totally assimilated, as in France the encouragement to assimilate into the Western pop-culture is much greater than in Russia, where ethnic diversity is stimulated and cheered at in the higher echelons of life.
      The thing is that Russians have been into contact with Armenians for a much longer time while most Europeans have never been into contact with an Armenian in their life so it is more or less normal that they don't know much about Armenians and Armenia. Most Russians I've met in my life have been very positive towards Armenians and they always start talking about this great Armenian that they have as friend or that they know. One of my best friend's dad was in Kirovakan right after the earthquake as a soldier, and he and his whole family are super positive towards Armenia and Armenians. However there are also some Europeans that do know Armenians and Armenia very well, once I met this judge that knew so much about Armenians and the Armenian genocide.
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      do majority of armenian russians speak armenian? so far i've only seen one guy, he looked russian, had parents from Artsakh, his parents tought him. he's like a grain in the sand.
      Since Armenian is not a world language or a language that is that important it is normal that no one except Armenians speak it, the same goes for Dutch. Not many people outside of the Netherlands and Flanders speak it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by arakeretzig View Post
      do majority of armenian russians speak armenian? so far i've only seen one guy, he looked russian, had parents from Artsakh, his parents tought him. he's like a grain in the sand.
      I would say, that from the Armenians living in Russia multiple generations long, the number of them not speaking Armenian is about the same (a bit less) compared to those Armenians living for multiple generations in Western countries (France, US, Greece, etc.). This only counts for the Armenians living in major cities in the North-West of Russia. For Armenians living in Southern-Russia, most of them still speak or understand a dialect of Armenian.

      A big difference compared to Western countries, is that Armenians in Russia have a much closer relationship to their identity, heritage and Armenia (doesn't matter if they speak or not speak Armenian). This is partly because of the closer distance to Armenia itself, partly because of a large, successful Armenian population who live dispersed in Moscow and whose goal is not to show off their fancy cars and be jealous towards each other, as in LA, but to help each other and partly because Russia itself promotes ethnic diversity and supports Armenians keeping their Armenian identity.

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      LA Armenians are a mess. Russian Armenians are much more successful and have better reputation.
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      LA Armenians are often a mess. The communities in Boston, NY-NJ, Philly, DC, Michigan, etc are in pretty good shape.
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      LA Armenians are often a mess. The communities in Boston, NY-NJ, Philly, DC, Michigan, etc are in pretty good shape.
      I think it's the weather lol, but also LA culture is very damaging....
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      Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
      Every ethnic group has a criminal element. When compared to other ethnic groups in the US, (every ethnic group), Armenians are probably the most law abiding and when known by Americans, are typically acknowledged for their hard work, intelligence, cohesion, pride, and affluence. Yes, there is criminal element in the Armenian community but as noted above, when compared to every other ethnic group in the US we are the least likely to be criminal. Out of about 1.5 million Armenians in the USA, there are less than 6,000 or so involved in criminal activity. Many of these are new arrivals and after some more time in the US, these numbers will begin to dwindle. This has been manifest in the US since the beginning of all major immigration movements to the US.
      There are 18,000 Armenians in prison in California alone http://archive.hetq.am/eng/society/0...s_angeles.html - which means that either your figures are VERY wrong, or Armenians outside California are all 100% law abiding (or 100% successful at not being caught) and 12,000 Armenians in California went visiting their relatives in prison and liked it there so much that they decided to stay.
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      Quote Originally Posted by lampron View Post
      provoking people, if it is to wake them up and make them look at things more objectively is not a bad thing!
      And it is also fun provoking those that will never look at things objectively. Mad dogs like Mos, Vahram and Tigranakert, deserve to be kicked - they then jump up, barking crazy, but because they are securely tethered they strangle themselves with their own collars. Stupid dogs.
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      Quote Originally Posted by bell-the-cat View Post
      And it is also fun provoking those that will never look at things objectively. Mad dogs like Mos, Vahram and Tigranakert, deserve to be kicked - they then jump up, barking crazy, but because they are securely tethered they strangle themselves with their own collars. Stupid dogs.

      You are speaking about objectivity? That's ironic, seeing as you are the queen of subjectivity and pettiness.
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