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  • Nakhitchevan

    Akh Nakhitchevan, Hayotz Pnorran,
    Kez pajin engav, sev pakhde tajan....

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    THE VILLAGES ARE IN SALE IN NAXCIVAN: KURDISH FAMILIES WHO COME FROM TURKEY BUY HOUSES OF LOCAL PEOPLE

    Yeni Musavat
    June 8 2008
    Azerbaijan

    We have informed many times about the activities of the PKK [the
    Kurdistan Workers Party] supporters in Naxcivan, their self-management
    in the universities of this autonomous republic, the distribution of
    the symbols and the flags of the unrecognized state of Kurdistan, the
    harassment and the proscription of local people and the transfer of
    the sales outlets to the people who sympathize with the PKK. The other
    newspapers have also alarmed on this issue. The situation has reached
    its peak. Various Azerbaijani officials have started talking about the
    threat to the country by the PKK. The press secretary of the Ministry
    of Foreign Affairs, Xazar Ibrahim, made such statement last week.

    Inflow of Kurds from Turkey continues

    Despite the statements and the media alarm, there have not been taken
    any serious step at the official level. Therefore, the Kurdish flow
    into Naxcivan from Turkey has intensified. According to information
    that our editorial office received from Naxcivan, there have been
    observed the settlement in the centres of the districts up to
    now. The process has spread on villages lately. The families who
    have the Turkish citizenship settle in the villages in Naxcivan that
    have been become deserted due to economic problems. "They come to
    villages and look for the owners of the houses that are locked. The
    majority of the owners have moved either to Baku or to Turkey. The
    local authorities mediate the meetings of the local people who have
    moved to Baku with Turkish citizens. The landlords are called from
    Baku to Naxcivan and the Turkish citizens pay them 10-12,000 dollars
    in order to buy the property. The local people who moved to Baku many
    years ago are happy to get that price for the houses where they have
    not lived for many years. They think that they live in Baku and do
    not need the property in the village".

    It is interesting that the Turkish citizens who buy houses in the
    villages of Naxcivan say that they are the Turks. The local people
    do not doubt that the new comers are the Kurds.

    Naxcivan - out of sight, out of mind

    A former officer of the Ministry of National Security who has
    [anonymously] talked with us about the issue has said that the
    processes in Naxcivan may generate huge problems for Azerbaijan in
    future. He thinks that the processes should have been prevented
    at the early stages. "The tension in Naxcivan is caused by the
    absence of the land frontiers with the autonomous republic and that
    the Azerbaijani public and media are not able to influence it. The
    second factor is that the local branch of the Ministry of National
    Security in Naxcivan that is supposed to give information about the
    processes either does not give information or the given information
    has no impact. The local authorities in Naxcivan are not influenced
    in appropriate manner. This is because the authorities in Naxcivan
    enjoy an extraordinary status. None of the state institutions in
    Azerbaijan except for the president may influence the authorities in
    Naxcivan. The relevant state institutions may not use information
    that they have. The fact that they are not able to influence the
    situation might cause serious problems in Naxcivan in future. The
    increasing settlement of the Turkish citizens with the Kurdish origin
    in the villages of Naxcivan may cause serious problems for the local
    inhabitants in future as well. A number of experts have also warned
    that if the abovesaid settlement is not prevented, it may cause that
    the separation of Naxcivan from Azerbaijan will come to the agenda
    in near future. If the process continues this way, it may happen
    in few years. It will result in the loss of more territories in
    prospect. There are no doubts that the countries which are unfriendly
    to Turkey have a serious interest in creating a hot spot on the border
    of Turkey and Azerbaijan. It is also obvious that if the migrants
    moving to Naxcivan will put forward political and other demands,
    they will get support from Armenia that has land border with Naxcivan".

    Our interviewee has stressed that the population of Naxcivan who have
    always been distinguished with the spirit of resistance have lost their
    it now. "The economic problems and unbearable political conditions
    have caused the migration of the local people from Naxcivan. It is
    not a secret that there are empty villages in Naxcivan. People have
    moved either to Baku or to Turkey".

    No media access to exclave

    The officer of the Ministry of National Security has reminded that
    it is impossible to send a correspondent from Baku to Naxcivan and
    this is a serious challenge. This does not serve to the interests
    of Azerbaijan. "The opposition politicians who are originally
    from Naxcivan are not able to travel there. This behaviour of the
    local authorities in Naxcivan and the fact that foreign dangerous
    powers have found a fruitful ground there will cause a tragedy for
    Azerbaijan. Naxcivan is settled by strangers who dislike the Turks
    and Turkey and when the war starts with Armenia they will not protect
    Naxcivan. They will either leave Naxcivan or support the Armenians. It
    may result in the loss of Naxcivan. The process in Naxcivan may have
    such causes that one shudders with horror while thinking of them. There
    has appeared a chasm between Azerbaijan and Naxcivan. The fact that
    the strangers who do not protect the interests of Azerbaijan are
    brought to Naxcivan means that there is a time bomb in Naxcivan".

    Our interlocutor says that there is a way how the country can escape
    the tragedy. "Security services should combine information that they
    have about the migration of strangers to Naxcivan with information
    published in media and report to the president. Further, there should
    be taken very serious measures. If steps are taken with the support of
    the president, the above mentioned facts in Naxcivan can be neutralized
    in few days. It is easy to put the problem to the end. There should
    be just determination and the will.

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    • #3
      Re: Nakhitchevan

      Kurds in there will open up another pain in the ass of the turks.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • #4
        Re: Nakhitchevan

        Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
        THE VILLAGES ARE IN SALE IN NAXCIVAN: KURDISH FAMILIES WHO COME FROM TURKEY BUY HOUSES OF LOCAL PEOPLE
        Why are you posting this 5 years late?

        The article is an invention for propaganda purposes: there are no Kurds from Turkey settling in Nakhchivan. And the reverse is actually true - thousands of Azeris from Nakhchivan have settled in the Kars and Igdir provinces of Turkey. The only true part is that a large part of the population of the villages in Nakhchivan have left, a process which is mirrored in the villages of Armenia. Maybe the purpose of the piece was to pressure or scare the authorities in Baku into doing something to support sustainable village life in Nakhchivan.
        Last edited by bell-the-cat; 01-22-2013, 12:37 PM.
        Plenipotentiary meow!

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        • #5
          Re: Nakhitchevan

          Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
          Why are you posting this 5 years late?
          The post was sarcastic, given the fact that Haydar Aliyev himself is a Kurd, having relocated from Armenian Republic's Zangezur province, to Nakhitchevan...

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          • #6
            Re: Nakhitchevan

            DOCUMENTARY PRESENTS THE HISTORY OF JUGHA AND THE DESTRUCTION OF ITS CEMETERY


            13:12 01.02.2013

            The premiere of Jugha documentary, produced by Research on Armenian
            Architecture Foundation, was held in Yerevan.

            Within 20 minutes, the film presents the history of the historical
            city of Jugha and the destruction of its world-known cemetery by the
            authorities of the Autonomous Republic of Nakhijevan and Azerbaijan.

            The film is now presented in English.

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            • #7
              Re: Nakhitchevan

              Ֆիլմը ներկայացնում է պատմական Ջուղա քաղաքի պատմությունը և աշխարհահռչակ գերեզմանոցի ոչնչացումը Նախիջևանի Ինքնավար Հանրապետության և Ադրբեջանի իշխանությունների ...


              "Ջուղա" ֆիլմը համացանցում շարժել է անգամ ադրբեջանցիների հետաքրքրությունը վիդեո
              16:05 . 07/02
              Չորս ամիս առաջ YouTube –ում տեղադրված "Ջուղա" ֆիլմը մեկ շաբաթ հետո ունեցել է 4000-ից ավելի դիտում: Այս մասին այսօր լրագրողների հետ հանդիպման ժամանակ ասաց պատմաբան, հուշարձանագետ Սամվել Կարապետյանը:
              "2006 թ-ին նկարահանված 20 րոպե տևողությամբ "Ջուղա" ֆիլմը YouTube –ում տեղադրվել է հայերեն և անգլերեն, մի քանի օր հետո ունեցել ենք 380 դիտում հայերենով, և համարյա նույնքան անգլերենով: Ֆիլմը դիտել են անգամ Աֆրիկայից, իսկ ամենակարևորն՝ այն դիտում են ադրբեջանցիները",- նշեց ճարտարապետը:

              Ֆիլմը հայկական հուշարձանների ցեղասպանության մասին է, որն անվանում են ոչ միայն մշակութային, այլև՝ քաղաքական: 2007 թ-ին ֆիլմը ցուցադրվել է Ազգային ժողովում, որին ներկա է եղել Ստրասբուրգից ժամանած 16 հոգուց մի պատվիրակություն:

              "Պատվիրակության անդամները ֆիլմը դիտելուց հետո ադրբեջանցիներին համարեցին բարբարոսներ",- ասաց Սամվել Կարապետյանը:

              Խոսելով հուշարձանների պահպանման մասին՝ ճարտարապետը նշեց, որ այդ առումով մենք պետք է օրինակ վերցնենք մեր հարևան Իրանից, որտեղ նպատակաուղղված աշխատանք է տարվում հուշարձանների պահպանության ուղղությամբ:

              Նշենք, որ 2007 թ-ին "Ջուղա" ֆիլմը ստացել է նախագահի հատուկ մրցանակ: Մոտ ժամանակներս ծրագրված է նկարահանել "Հովվի եկեղեցին" և "Արաբկիրի վերջին հացը" ֆիլմերը:

              panArmenian.net

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              • #8
                Re: Nakhitchevan

                N WELL-KEPT ARMENIAN VILLAGE AYLIS THERE ARE MANY SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES, AND PEOPLE THERE RESEMBLE THE FRENCH


                16:06 19/02/2013 " SOCIETY

                Collection of Azerichild.info site replenished by another publicistic
                work written in early 20th century called "Journey of Mozalan Beck".

                It's from journal of "Molla Nasreddin" of 1909 in which the author
                Gurbanli Sharifov shares his impressions after visiting the Armenian
                village Aylis (Agulis) and compares it with the Muslim (Azerbaijani)
                Ordubad city.

                It is noteworthy that at the time when this story was going to be
                printed, the magazine, founded by Jalil Mamedkulizade in 1906 and
                censored by his Armenian colleagues was fully under the control of
                young writers, editors and censors - Transcaucasian Tatars.

                "It seems that even fools would be stupefied. First of all I want to
                note that the village was like a well-kept area of Tbilisi. Beautiful
                mansions, clean streets, many large and beautiful bridges, a lot
                of schools, libraries, reading rooms and buildings with an amazing
                educational equipment and decorations. I swear by Allah, I was
                petrified.

                And people are not recognizable as if they had just arrived from
                France, their clothes, their behavior, impeccable purity (speaking
                of purity, I mean appearance of the people do not think of something
                else.) I was truly amazed.

                Returning from Aylis to Ordubad I saw that in one of the houses they
                again read a prayer and Muslims gathered there are again crying.

                And I really wanted to ask them my dears, why are you crying? What is
                wrong with you again? Or have you already realized that our neighbors,
                who are armed with enlightenment, will come here, will seize all of
                your property, and will turn you all in their own servants?

                And let no one say that it is not like that. If you pay a little
                attention to the history of world culture, you will realize that in
                the end it will be so."

                The site Azerichild.info publishes translations of literature from
                Azerbaijani for children and educational use.

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                • #9
                  Re: Nakhitchevan

                  Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                  N WELL-KEPT ARMENIAN VILLAGE AYLIS THERE ARE MANY SCHOOLS AND LIBRARIES, AND PEOPLE THERE RESEMBLE THE FRENCH


                  16:06 19/02/2013 " SOCIETY

                  Collection of Azerichild.info site replenished by another publicistic
                  work written in early 20th century called "Journey of Mozalan Beck".

                  It's from journal of "Molla Nasreddin" of 1909 in which the author
                  Gurbanli Sharifov shares his impressions after visiting the Armenian
                  village Aylis (Agulis) and compares it with the Muslim (Azerbaijani)
                  Ordubad city.

                  It is noteworthy that at the time when this story was going to be
                  printed, the magazine, founded by Jalil Mamedkulizade in 1906 and
                  censored by his Armenian colleagues was fully under the control of
                  young writers, editors and censors - Transcaucasian Tatars.

                  "It seems that even fools would be stupefied. First of all I want to
                  note that the village was like a well-kept area of Tbilisi. Beautiful
                  mansions, clean streets, many large and beautiful bridges, a lot
                  of schools, libraries, reading rooms and buildings with an amazing
                  educational equipment and decorations. I swear by Allah, I was
                  petrified.

                  And people are not recognizable as if they had just arrived from
                  France, their clothes, their behavior, impeccable purity (speaking
                  of purity, I mean appearance of the people do not think of something
                  else.) I was truly amazed.

                  Returning from Aylis to Ordubad I saw that in one of the houses they
                  again read a prayer and Muslims gathered there are again crying.

                  And I really wanted to ask them my dears, why are you crying? What is
                  wrong with you again? Or have you already realized that our neighbors,
                  who are armed with enlightenment, will come here, will seize all of
                  your property, and will turn you all in their own servants?

                  And let no one say that it is not like that. If you pay a little
                  attention to the history of world culture, you will realize that in
                  the end it will be so."

                  The site Azerichild.info publishes translations of literature from
                  Azerbaijani for children and educational use.
                  The original: http://www.azerichild.info/publicism_14.html

                  And a version in Azeri - http://www.kultura.az/articles.php?i...9579&sec_id=11 One of the comments mentions Akram Aylisli.

                  I'm not sure if the Russian-language azerichild version is just a translation from the Azeri-language version, but I think it might be (they both have the illustration's captions translated into Azeri). Which means that there is an unseen original Russian-language version out there somewhere.
                  Plenipotentiary meow!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Nakhitchevan

                    «Հայկական կինոյի զարթոնք» կինոկենտրոնի խորհուրդը «Ազգային կինո» մրցանակ է շնորհել Հայկական ճարտարապետությունն ուսումնասիրող հիմնադրամի «Ջուղա» ֆիլմին՝ պատմական Հայաստանի հին և հռչակավոր այդ քաղաքի պատմությունն ու աշխարհահռչակ գերեզմանոցի ոչնչացումը Նախիջևանի Ինքնավար Հանրապետության և Ադրբեջանի իշխանությունների կողմից մատչելիորեն ներկայացնելու և միջազգային հանրությանը սթափության կոչ անելու համար:




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