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  • #51
    Re: Fascist USA

    U.S. STATE DEPT. CONDEMNS GENOCIDE, YET FAILS TO PRONOUNCE THE TERM

    April 15, 2015 - 13:04 AMT

    PanARMENIAN.Net - The U.S. Department of State condemned the mass
    killing of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire in early 20th century, yet
    failing once again to recognize them as genocide.

    "The President and other senior Administration officials have
    repeatedly acknowledged as historical fact and mourned the fact that
    1.5 million Armenians were massacred or marched to their deaths in the
    final days of the Ottoman Empire, and stated that a full, frank, and
    just acknowledgement of the facts is in all our interests, including
    Turkey's, Armenia's and America's," the acting spokesperson, Marie
    Harf, said at the daily press briefing on Tuesday, April 14, when
    asked to comment on Pope Francis's statement characterizing the
    massacres as the first genocide of the 20th century.

    She further refused to comment on Ankara's recalling the ambassador to
    the Vatican following the Pope's remarks or Barack Obama's 2008
    campaign promise to recognize the Armenian Genocide.

    Hayastan or Bust.

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    • #52
      Re: Fascist USA

      It is a sad truth about US politics, that US allies tend to get away with anything, just as Saddam got away with gassing Iranians and then Kurds.

      However, the strains are beginning to show between the US and Turkey, as it is forced to realize that:
      A) Turkey doesn't want to exclusively buy US weapons anymore, thus rendering mute the nonsense argument that Turkish arms contracts are worth more than history, human life and human rights. Turkish lobby will have a harder time bribing Congress now.
      B) Links are becoming clearer every day over how Turkey either does nothing over ISIS, or actively helps them.
      C) Turkey has lost a lot of ties with Israel, and its lobby groups are less and less inclined to support the Turkish line over the genocide.
      D) The Pope has openly come out and declared there was an Armenian Genocide, and the Turkish government retaliated by calling the leader of the Catholic Church 'evil', in effect offending billions of Christians. Turkey can expect more vocal opposition from Republicans, who already see Turkey as turning a blind eye to Islamic terrorism and persecution of Christians.
      E) As usual, more and more countries recognize the genocide, leaving Turkey more isolated in it's denial.

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      • #53
        Re: Fascist USA

        Germany not only recognizing the genocide but also admitting they had a hand in it was a huge blow to Turkey's credibility. Aside from that, it was great to see "I apologize to Armenians" written in a turkish hashtag trending top 5 in the world today and #1 in turkey. The people there know the truth! It's only a matter of time..

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        • #54
          Re: Fascist USA

          Only partially, as their foreign minister let off some denialist line.

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          • #55
            Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by gokorik View Post
            Nice nothing like the cops getting the best equipment out there while soldiers get still get cheap soviet gear. The government's priorities are obvious. Dam shame.
            Yup its like that in all fascist countries including USA. The cops are governments security so they will get the best gear. The cops in USA have so much crap they don't know which to use. They pull a gun instead of a tazer..
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • #56
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              Yup its like that in all fascist countries including USA. The cops are governments security so they will get the best gear. The cops in USA have so much crap they don't know which to use. They pull a gun instead of a tazer..
              Not that I want to be defending US policemen
              but in the United States the troops already have the best gear in the world, and they are not defending the borders for the survival of the nation. They're thousands of miles away on imperialistic adventures. Moreover the cops in America aren't there to legitimize a ruling party that is in power illegitimately and without the support of the majority, or even a significant minority.

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              • #57
                Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Mher View Post
                Not that I want to be defending US policemen
                but in the United States the troops already have the best gear in the world, and they are not defending the borders for the survival of the nation. They're thousands of miles away on imperialistic adventures. Moreover the cops in America aren't there to legitimize a ruling party that is in power illegitimately and without the support of the majority, or even a significant minority.
                Your statements regarding USA always prove how little you know and understand that country. The majority of the people in USA are so disconnected with their government that they do not even vote. To say that the USA government has the support of the majority is the exact opposite of reality. The entire governmental system of USA is illegitimate since it is entirely based on corruption and blackmail. I think some people want to believe so badly that good exists somewhere that they will blind themselves of much evil just to be able to state that here is an example of good. This demonstrates the sad shape of the world we live in today.
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • #58
                  Re: Fascist USA

                  Have you been following the news lately? What would you say if Turkey started lecturing on how evil genocide is? You would probably say wow what a hypocrite..Well the news is full of hypocrisy. We have one of the most corrupt organizations going after a much lesser corrupt organization. I am referring to the FBI going after FIFA. The USA is indicting FIFA members for doing the exact same things that all of its politicians do daily. Sure you will get people like Hastert and Menendez who get indicted but they are not being punished for being corrupt. If corruption was the real reason for their indictments the pretty much all of the house, senate, president, judges would be indicted also. Those who do get convicted are being punished for not staying in line, stepping on bigger feet,... People are very much out of touch with reality and that is just the way fascist states like it.
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • #59
                    Re: Fascist USA

                    Spain: Podemos party in the crosshairs of US intelligence agencies

                    By Nil Nikandrov
                    <http://www.strategic-culture.org/authors/nil-nikandrov.html>* | 20.06.2015 | 00:00


                    On the 7th floor of the US Embassy's enormous building in Madrid is the CIA
                    station. For more than half a century, active intelligence work has been
                    carried out from this site, but its objective is not only to gather secret
                    information on the domestic and foreign policies of Spain. A wide range of
                    delicate issues aimed at guaranteeing the US' strategic interests in the
                    country are looked at on a daily basis. Thus the station focuses on
                    preventive operations to `neutralise' organisations and politicians that
                    are potentially hostile to the US.

                    Spain is quite rightly considered to be one of the EU's weakest links. A
                    series of corruption scandals has undermined the credibility of Mariano
                    Rajoy's government (Sp. Presidente del Gobierno Mariano Rajoy). The
                    antipopular austerity policy has sharply aggravated the situation in the
                    country: there has been a rise in unemployment, especially among young
                    people, the salaries of public sector workers have been cut, social
                    expenditure has been reduced, and education and healthcare has
                    deteriorated. Many people unable to pay their rent and utility bills have
                    been thrown out onto the street. Television reports on forced evictions
                    have had a far greater impact on the mood of the Spanish electorate than
                    any opposition propaganda: the crisis is not sparing anyone, we could find
                    ourselves in their place tomorrow, and the country needs a new leader and a
                    new domestic and foreign policy.

                    Surveillance of young, radical left-wing politicians in Spain began long
                    before the groups and organisations they led were consolidated into the
                    Podemos party (in English, Podemos translates as `We can'). Every stage of
                    the process was monitored via agents, electronic surveillance and social
                    networking sites. Operations files were replenished with information on
                    university lecturers and students, political and social activists, members
                    of the creative intelligentsia, and sympathetic journalists. Every step
                    taken by the project's key players - Pablo Iglesias, Juan Carlos Monedero
                    and Ă=8Dńigo Errejón - was documented.

                    Contact between these young `protesters' and members of populist regimes in
                    Latin America - Venezuelans, Ecuadorians, Nicaraguans and Bolivians - has
                    caused, and is still causing, American and Spanish security agencies a
                    great deal of anxiety, while trips by the `protesters' to Brazil, Argentina
                    and Cuba have caused just as much alarm. Juan Monedero, who was an adviser
                    to President Hugo Chávez on financial and economic issues between 2005 and
                    2010 and provided expert assistance to the Ministry of Planning and the
                    Miranda International Centre on staff training, has aroused particular
                    suspicion. Monedero also advised the governments of Venezuela, Bolivia,
                    Ecuador and Nicaragua on establishing non-cash settlements in regional
                    trade.

                    The Podemos party's entry onto the Spanish political scene (in February
                    2014) was accompanied by the intelligence agencies stepping up their covert
                    activities to expose `possible' compromising information on Podemos
                    activists and the party's leader, Pablo Iglesias. It is no secret to the
                    `subjects' of the surveillance that they are being vigilantly monitored by
                    the CIA and the US National Security Agency (NSA). It stands to reason that
                    the National Intelligence Centre (CNI) of Spain, whose senior officials
                    regard the activities of Podemos in a negative light, is not staying on the
                    sidelines. The reason is clear: the seemingly stable two-party system is
                    becoming a thing of the past and the emergence of a new political force has
                    become problematic.

                    General elections are to take place in Spain at the end of 2015 and,
                    according to the predictions of political analysts, they are going to
                    change the balance of political forces in the country considerably. It is
                    becoming increasingly obvious that the centre-right People's Party
                    (Partido
                    Popular - PP) and the centre-left Spanish Socialist Workers' Party (PSOE)
                    will lose their dominant positions. The popularity of the Podemos party was
                    confirmed at the local elections on 24 May 2015. Suffice it to say that
                    Manuela Carmena, a protest movement activist, is now in charge of Madrid's
                    city hall, which has traditionally been ruled by PP protégés, and Ada
                    Colau, an advocate of real, rather than cosmetic, reforms in the country,
                    is now the mayor of Barcelona. Hundreds of new mayors are promising to make
                    the fight against economic inequality, social justice, and the involvement
                    of the people in the running of the country their priority.

                    Pablo Iglesias attended the inauguration ceremony for the new mayor of
                    Madrid and called for his fellow countrymen and Podemos supporters not to
                    rest on their laurels, but to continue fighting for change and defeat
                    Mariano Rajoy's People's Party in the general elections.

                    Podemos' success was overshadowed by the resignation of Juan Monedero. In
                    January 2015, the Complutense University of Madrid and the Finance
                    Ministry, as if on command, began looking into the legality of substantial
                    sums of money received by the politician from the governments of ALBA
                    countries (the Bolivarian Alliance for the Peoples of Our America, (Sp.
                    Alianza Bolivariana para los Pueblos de Nuestra América), is a socialist
                    alliance of Latin American and Carribbean states). At the same time, an
                    article appeared in the Conservative newspaper El Pais accusing Monedero of
                    `falsifying' most of his academic employment history. There is no doubt
                    that this compromising information would not have emerged without the
                    involvement of US intelligence agencies. I need only mention that the
                    newspaper Diario Las Americas (published in Miami), which is used by the
                    CIA to disseminate so-called `active measures', published an interview with
                    Spain's former prime minister, José Aznar. He accused Podemos
                    of being
                    financed by Venezuela: `Podemos is a political movement that fully
                    advocates totalitarian models and populist ideas'. Naturally, the party
                    filed a lawsuit for libel and slander.

                    After a huge hullabaloo in the media, the issue of `subversive funding from
                    Hugo Chávez' was explained satisfactorily and El Paisissued an apology, but
                    Monedero still felt it necessary to leave Podemos. The upcoming election
                    campaign promises to be tense, and his previous association with Latin
                    American populists and adherence to Marxist ideology will certainly be used
                    by his political opponents.

                    It is important to note that Podemos has recently been avoiding provocative
                    political language. Now, its moderate-centre electoral programme is geared
                    towards the wider electorate. There is no mention of plans to abolish the
                    Spanish monarchy, to grant the regions the right to secede from Spain, to
                    nationalise key industries and banks, and to seize without compensation
                    surplus accommodation from its owners and give it to the homeless. Pablo
                    Iglesias himself is declaring his allegiance to social democratic ideals
                    and the Swedish model of socialism. He has even talked about the history of
                    the party's name, Podemos. Apparently, it does not come from Marx or Lenin,
                    but from Barack Obama, who led his fight for the presidency in 2008 under
                    the slogan `Yes, we can!'

                    Distrust of Podemos in the higher echelons of the US is only getting
                    stronger, however. That the party intends to use the experience of
                    Venezuelan populists to conquer hegemony in the country is constantly being
                    emphasised in the information coming from the intelligence agencies. For
                    now, however, Podemos' minimum goal is to win in the elections. Only then,
                    apparently, will Pablo Iglesias and his team take steps to seize the real
                    powers. Such `focus' by the Americans on interpreting Iglesias' plans is
                    intended to justify the magnitude of the complex intelligence measures
                    against the Podemos party. One needs only compare the list of US Embassy
                    personnel in Madrid over the last five years with the current one
                    (published by the Spanish Foreign Affairs Ministry) to see that the size of
                    the CIA station operating under the roof of the political department has
                    more than tripled.

                    The question of whether the US intelligence agencies in Spain have
                    sufficient potential to `adjust' the results of the forthcoming elections
                    still remains open. During the last election campaign in Mexico, the
                    moderate populist López Obrador had a distinct advantage. Washington's
                    candidate, however, was Peńa Nieto, and with the help of questionable
                    manipulations behind the scenes of the electoral process, he became the
                    next president of Mexico.

                    During closed parliamentary hearings, the head of the National Intelligence
                    Centre (CNI) of Spain, Félix Sanz Roldán, said he `felt uneasy' about the
                    operations of US intelligence agencies in the country, especially the US
                    National Security Agency (NSA). `They are guided by their own laws», said
                    Roldan. He also referred to the covert activities of secret service agents
                    in Spain from `allied countries'. Nine such agents have been expelled from
                    Spain in recent years. Roldan did not specify which countries exactly, but
                    judging from publications and independent sources, he was referring to the
                    US and Israel. The number of `illegals' like these in Spain is measured in
                    three figures.



                    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs invited US Ambassador James Costos, and
                    later the charge d'affaires Luis Moreno, to get an explanation regarding
                    the NSA's illegal `wiretaps' and its monitoring of
                    information exchanged
                    over the internet, including social networking sites. The Spanish
                    authorities' timid attempts to at least normalise the behaviour of
                    US
                    intelligence agencies in their country are proving fruitless.



                    One gets the impression that in some cases, Rajoy's government is not
                    dealing with the activities of foreign intelligence services against
                    Spanish citizens in the country as categorically as CNI head Roldan tried
                    to prove in parliament. Observers are not ruling out the possibility that
                    the Podemos leader's involvement in the presidential elections will be
                    sabotaged with the help of a large-scale act of provocation by US
                    intelligence agencies.

                    Hayastan or Bust.

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                    • #60
                      Re: Fascist USA

                      FBI Agent: The CIA Could Have Stopped 9/11

                      By Jeff Stein

                      June 20, 2015 "Information Clearing House
                      <http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/>" - "Newsweek
                      <http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-cia-344693>" - Updated : Mark
                      Rossini, a former FBI special agent at the center of an enduring mystery
                      <http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/23/information-could-have-stopped-911-299148.html>
                      related
                      to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, says he is `appalled' by the
                      newly declassified statements by former CIA Director George Tenet defending
                      the spy agency's efforts to detect and stop the plot.

                      Rossini, who was assigned to the CIA's Counterterrorism Center (CTC) at the
                      time of the attacks, has long maintained
                      <http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/23/information-could-have-stopped-911-299148.html>
                      that
                      the U.S. government has covered up secret relations between the spy agency
                      and Saudi individuals who may have abetted the plot. Fifteen of the 19
                      hijackers who flew commercial airliners into the World Trade Center towers,
                      the Pentagon, and a failed effort to crash into the U.S. Capitol, were
                      Saudis.

                      A heavily redacted 2005 CIA inspector general's report
                      <http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/DOC_0006184107.pdf>, parts of
                      which had previously been released, was further declassified earlier this
                      month. It found that agency investigators "encountered no evidence" that
                      the government of Saudi Arabia "knowingly and willingly supported" Al-Qaeda
                      terrorists. It added that some CIA officers had `speculated' that
                      `dissident sympathizers within the government' may have supported Osama bin
                      Laden but that `the reporting was too sparse to determine with any
                      accuracy
                      such support.'

                      Over 30 pages relating to Saudi Arabia in the report were blacked out. The
                      Obama administration has also refused
                      <http://www.newsweek.com/saudi-arabia-911-george-w-bush-barack-obama-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-bob-297170>
                      to
                      declassify 28 pages dealing with Saudi connections to the hijackers in a
                      joint congressional probe of the attacks.

                      As has been previously reported
                      <http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/23/information-could-have-stopped-911-299148.html>,
                      Rossini and another FBI agent assigned to the CTC, Doug Miller, learned in
                      January 2000 that one of the future hijackers, an Al-Qaeda operative by the
                      name of Khalid al-Mihdhar, had a multi-entry visa to enter the U.S. By
                      mid-summer of 2001, the CIA was repeatedly warning President George W. Bush
                      and other White House officials that an Al-Qaeda attack was imminent. But
                      when Miller and Rossini attempted to warn FBI headquarters that al-Mihdhar
                      could be loose in the U.S., a CIA supervisor ordered them to remain silent.

                      Rossini says he is `deeply concerned' by how the agency continues to
                      suppress information related to contacts between the CIA and Saudi Arabia,
                      particularly when the spy agency is declassifying other portions of
                      documents to show that it did everything possible to thwart the September
                      11, 2001 plot.

                      `There would have not been a 9/11 if Doug's CIR [Central Intelligence
                      Report] on al-Mihdhar was sent,' he told Newsweek in an email.
                      `Period.
                      End of story.

                      `The total lack of accountability, nor a desire to drill down on the truth
                      as to why Doug's memo was not sent,' he added, `is the reason why the 28
                      pages pertaining to the Saudis have been blocked' from release.

                      In 2005, Tenet, the CIA director at the time of the attacks, angrily
                      refuted the judgment of then-CIA Inspector General John Helgerson who said
                      Tenet did not do enough to stop the Al-Qaeda plot.

                      "Your report challenges my professionalism, diligence and skill in leading
                      the men and women of U.S. intelligence in countering terrorism," Tenet
                      wrote to Helgerson in another heavily redacted document released June 12.
                      "I did everything I could to inform, warn and motivate action to prevent
                      harm. Your report does not fairly or accurately portray my actions, or the
                      heroic work of the men and women of the Intelligence Community."

                      Rossini claims still-classified documents would `show a pattern of
                      financial assistance, and moreover, the CIA's role to try and recruit
                      al-Mihdhar.' He says he was `convinced' of that and that `there is no other
                      explanation" for the CIA refusing to release further information.

                      A former CIA field operative who worked at the CTC in 2001 told
                      <http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/23/information-could-have-stopped-911-299148.html>
                      Newsweek earlier this year that Rossini's theory had merit. =80=9CI find that
                      kind of hard to believe, that [al-Mihdhar] would be a valid source,' says
                      the former operative, who spent 25 years handling spies in some of the
                      world's most dangerous places, including the Middle East. `But then again,
                      the folks that were making a lot of calls at the time there were junior
                      analysts, who had zero general experience and absolutely zero on-the-ground
                      operational experience or any kind of operational training.'

                      The analysts had begun to take intelligence collection initiatives beyond
                      their skill level, usually by developing their own confidential `sources'
                      in Middle East spy services, says the former operative, who spoke on
                      condition of anonymity to freely discuss such a sensitive issue. So it is
                      entirely reasonable, the former operative says, that an intelligence
                      analyst at the CTC was trying to develop al-Mihdhar as a source through
                      Saudi contacts.

                      `I don't think they ever personally talked to anybody' in the field, the
                      former operative added. `They probably got a source through liaison. So
                      their source [on the hijackers] might have been someone in the Saudi
                      service who said they are talking to somebody, or someone in the Jordanian
                      service who said he was talking to someone. As far I was concerned, they
                      were a bunch of lying pieces of xxxx. So they could've done that.'

                      Rossini and his colleague, Miller, following the CTC's strict rules on
                      secrecy, kept silent for years about their thwarted effort to warn FBI
                      headquarters about al-Mihdhar, providing critics with ammunition to cast
                      doubt on their story. But in a Newsweek interview, a former FBI colleague
                      has now come forward publicly for the first time to buttress their version
                      of events.

                      James Bernazzani, who took charge of the FBI contingent at the CTC in
                      Langley, Virginia, soon after 9/11 attacks, recalled an encounter with
                      Rossini. `Mark walks into my office one day at Langley and says,
                      `Something's been really bothering me.' He tells me the whole story" about
                      how he and Miller had been prohibited from telling anyone about the likely
                      presence of at least one Al-Qaeda terrorist, al-Mihdhar, in the U.S. the
                      previous July, Bernazzani says.

                      `I said, Mark, if it ain't on paper, it never happened. He said,
                      `I got
                      it.' After a few minutes he came back and showed it to me.' Miller, as it
                      turned out, had made a copy of the warning cable he had prepared for FBI
                      headquarters.

                      `I looked at it and I said, `Holy friggin' xxxx,'' Bernazzani recalls. `I
                      said, `This would've stopped this thing.' I called up Assistant Director
                      Pat D'Amuro,' who was in charge of the FBI's investigation into the 9/11
                      attacks. `I said I needed to see him right away. He said, `This better be
                      worth it.' I assured him it was. I drove straight to FBI headquarters. It
                      took me only about 15 minutes to get there. I probably set some speed
                      records.'

                      Bernazzani, who retired in 2008 with a Presidential Award for Meritorious
                      Service
                      <https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-recognizes-presidential-rank-award-recipients>,
                      says D'Amuro `looks at it, he looks at me, and he says, `I'll take care of
                      it.''

                      Bernazzani returned to CIA headquarters. `I told Mark it was done,
                      it was
                      in the right hands,' Bernazzani says. Later, when congressional
                      investigators came looking for documents related to the 9/11 attacks, =80=9Cthe
                      FBI couldn't find it in their computers,' he says. `If they did, they
                      didn't tell me.'

                      D'Amuro, now managing director of 930 Capital Management in New York, did
                      not immediately respond to request for comment.

                      All these years later, `What Mark said is true,' Bernazzani says. `It did
                      happen' as Rossini told it.

                      As for why CIA analysts at the CTC ordered Rossini and Miller not to tell
                      the FBI about Al-Qaeda terrorists at large in the U.S., Bernazzani can only
                      theorize. "It was a classic example of analysts owning information,' he
                      says. `Operators share information. Some analysts tended to think of
                      information as none of your business.'

                      Rossini is more blunt. `They ran a clandestine op in the U.S., and
                      they
                      didn't want the bureau involved in it.'

                      Correction: An earlier version of this story mistakenly said FBI agents
                      Rossini and Miller learned about al-Mihdhar's multiple visas to America in
                      the summer of 2001. It was in January 2000 when they learned of his visas.

                      © 2015 Newsweek LLC

                      Mark Rossini is determined to find out why the CIA didn't share vital information.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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