The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

[North Pole]

Originally Posted by crusader1492

He' traveling in Armenia. Perhaps he does not have 24/7 access to a computer at this time.

You're doing a great job in his stead.

I see. Thanks, crusader1492.

Originally Posted by Armenian

Greetings North Pole, I have been in Yerevan Armenia for a week now. I will be here for the next two months. Although I have been reading the materials posted in this forum approximately every other day I have been just too busy to participate. What's more, being in a public "internet cafe" is not the same as being in the confines of one's home. Crusader is right, you are doing great job. I appriciate your presence here. If you have the time please maintain this thread and report bad post to the moderator.

Hello, from North Pole, Armenian.
While you in Armenia, would you be able to find some time to travel to Fioletovo and chat with the Molokans, take some pictures too?


Fioletovo is not that far from Yerevan.

A map - http://www.molokane.org/molokan/images/Fioletovo.gif




More about the Molokans -- http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=10960

[KarotheGreat]

Originally Posted by jack sparrow

Had to imagine that no Armenian could be that stupid and have such a stupid name

[robertik1]

Are you Armenian?

[robertik1]

Originally Posted by jack sparrow

mother russian, father armenian,born in colombia not far from medellin,

Sure

[Artsakh]

Originally Posted by Armenian

Greetings North Pole, I have been in Yerevan Armenia for a week now. I will be here for the next two months.

Great! we shall finally meet, if you don't Pussssyyyyyyy out, that is. Where are you staying?

[crusader1492]

Moscow to brisk up relations with Armenia if Georgia joins NATO
15.07.2008 16:46 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Moscow-Baku relations have cooled since the USSR decline and do not depend on situation in third states, with the exception of Russia’s engagement in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, a Russian expert said.

“Current relations satisfy Russia with their predictability. Baku is not fully content but it does appreciate predictability of its partner,” Russian political scientist Dmitry Andreyev said.

Russia will not lose influence in the South Caucasus if Georgia joins NATO, according to him.

“Moscow will just brisk up relations with Armenia and will deeper engage in Karabakh process if Georgia joins the Alliance,” Andreyev said.

To what end?

How does getting "deeper engaged" ameliorate NATO encroachment? Who benefits from this scenario Armenia or Azerbaijan?

...poorly written article.

[Illuminator]

I noticed the Medellin drug cartel from Colombia didn't answer about Uribe...

Don't bother trying to tell us about our allies and friends.

Now how can you aspire to be a US soldier unless you are NSA?

mr. rah rah ameriKKKa??? Only one "programmed" to think a certain way is you.

[crusader1492]

Armenia won’t make fundamental concession in Karabakh issue
16.07.2008 13:44 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Resolution of the Nagonro Karabakh conflict is unlikely in the near future, a Russian expert said.

Armenia will never make fundamental concession in the issue, Mikhail Alexandrov, head of the Caucasus department at Moscow’s Institute for Commonwealth of Independent States, told a PanARMENIAN.Net reporter during a news conference in Yerevan.

“Armenians should put up with the fact that there will be no progress for a long time. The world is experiencing global processes caused by the economic crisis which will probably entail U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and decline of NATO. These processes will lead to shift in geopolitical balance in the region,” he said.
As to the format of talks, the expert said no one except for Baku wants to replace the OSCE Minsk Group. “Transfer of the issue to another instance will change nothing,” he emphasized.

“Ilham Aliyev seems to be irritated at Serzh Sargsyan’s victory in the presidential election. Western countries have obviously assured Aliyev that with Ter-Petrossian coming to power in Armenia, the Karabakh problem will be resolved in favor of Azerbaijan. However, it didn’t happen, so much the better,” Alexandrov said.

This Russian expert is bullish on the future de jure independence of Artsakh...albeit, he believes the status-quo will last for quite some time before this happens.

Check out what he said about LTP...

[North Pole]

Слава Воздушнодесантным Войскам!

Слава ВДВ!

Russian paratroopers arrive in North Caucasus for combat drills

22:05 | 16/ 07/ 2008

MOSCOW, July 16 (RIA Novosti) - Paratroopers from Russia's 76th Airborne Division arrived Wednesday in North Ossetia to participate in the active stage of large-scale military exercises in the North Caucasus.

The exercise, dubbed Caucasus 2008, involves units of the North Caucasus Military District, mainly the 58th Army, the 4th Air Force Army, Interior Ministry troops, and border guards.

"The personnel, equipment and ammunition are being unloaded at the town of Mozdok" in North Ossetia, a spokesperson for Russia's Ground Forces said Wednesday. The paratroopers will make a forced march to the assigned zone of operation in the mountains, where they will conduct a series of tactical exercises, including live-fire drills.

The Pskov paratroopers will be later joined by units from an air assault regiment based in the Volga region, which will be transported to the Krasnodar Territory by rail and conduct a forced march to the exercise zone.

The exercise is taking place on the territory of Chechnya, North Ossetia, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, and Karachayevo-Circassia.

Lt. Col. Andrei Bobrun, an aide to the commander of the North Caucasus Military District, earlier said the exercise involves some 8,000 military personnel, about 700 combat vehicles and more than 30 aircraft.

The main goal of the exercise, according to the Russian military, is to work on interoperability between federal troops, Interior Ministry troops, border guards, and the Air Force in special operations against militants and in the defense of Russia's state borders, and to practice support of Russian peacekeepers in Georgia's breakaway regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Georgia protested Wednesday against the Russian military exercise near its borders, saying it was another manifestation of aggression against Tbilisi.

Georgia's parliament approved Tuesday a presidential initiative to increase the armed forces by 5,000 personnel to 37,000 amid growing tensions with Russia over two breakaway provinces.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080716/114129465.html

[Armanen]

Anyways, Georgia looks more like a tool than like a partner to them. And its policy shows that is actually succumbing to foreign interests.

Of course georgia is a tool, it's even worse cause they are the tools of tools, as there is a deeper power structure behind nato. tiflis has been under foreign dominance since at least 2003, with the rise of misha and the other puppets.

[Armenian]

First Demonstration Flight of Russia’s Su-35 Was Successful

Su-35 fighter jet rocks the sky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhvNVekTYSw

Russia’s new G4++ fighter, Su-35, has completed today the first demonstration flight, RIA Novosti reported. The flight lasted six minutes.
It was Sukhoi test pilot Sergei Bogdan that flew the jet, having performed a few aerial stunts. The journalists and the guests, including ex-commander of the RF Air Force Vladimir Mikhailov and the company’s chief, applauded when Su-35 took ground. The fighter jet was demonstrated at Sukhoi testing ground in Zhukovsky-town of the Moscow region. The flight completed the first stage of Su-35 testing. Su-35 nears the G5 fighters in terms of combat efficiency and characteristics. It is designed to dominate in the air, hitting the ground and above-the-water targets any time and in any weather conditions. Serial production of the jet and its supplies to Russia’s and overseas clients will begin in 2010 or 2011. Amid peculiarities of the jet are a new avionics complex based on the digital command information system that integrates onboard equipment, a new radar station with phased array antenna, which has longer range of air/ground target detection, enabling to track up to 30 air targets and shoot eight targets simultaneously. Its super maneuvering capability is another advantage. What’s more, the jet may carry up to the 8 tons of combat loading at 12 suspension points.

Source: http://www.kommersant.com/p-12781/Su-35_flight_/

Russian Air Force may receive fifth-generation fighter in 2013

Russia is expecting a new fifth-generation fighter to enter service in 2013, the Air Force commander said on Monday. "We will begin test flights [of the new fighter] in 2009, and hope to receive the aircraft in 2013," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said. The new fighter aircraft, tentatively designated as the Sukhoi PAK FA or T-50, will be built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft manufacturing plant in Russia's Far East. The T-50 fighter, equipped with two powerful engines with thrust vectoring, will feature high maneuverability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets. Some experts believe the PAK FA fighter has been designed to be comparable to both the American F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II. It will eventually replace the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker fighters in the Russian Air Force and will be exported to other countries.

Source: http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080707/113422740.html

[KarotheGreat]

Originally Posted by jack sparrow

your show here as if moscow is important for armenians is absurtly wrong they are using armenia as a russian state, thanks for armenian politicans for long influence of russian brain washing influence they havent any other choice but moscow,they dont want to develope any other possibilities for their country,they liberate negorno karabagh but still they dont want to recognize it this is very important how russia is pressing armenia as if his otonomus state,you dont need to make such propaganda of russians,or are you making a business with that,this kind of propaganda, armour combat hardware etc,etc,what is that,the afgan fighters are using primitive arms to defeat USA forces,in Irak take place the same thing,what is the use of showing as if russia is a super star, if you are procupide of wellbeing of armenians stop sleeping and find out other possibilities which is less dangerouse for armenia,you look like russian official ,enough is enough

You are right enough is enough. Stop this BS, you don't know xxxx about Russia and whit this post you have given proof that you aren't Armenian. Anasun lagod anci stic.

And if you were Armenian you would know that our realations with russia and the russian people goes back to Peter the great.

[robertik1]

Originally Posted by KarotheGreat

You are right enough is enough. Stop this BS, you don't know xxxx about Russia and whit this post you have given proof that you aren't Armenian. Anasun lagod anci stic.

And if you were Armenian you would know that our realations with russia and the russian people goes back to Peter the great.

I agree

[Armanen]

Originally Posted by KarotheGreat

You are right enough is enough. Stop this BS, you don't know xxxx about Russia and whit this post you have given proof that you aren't Armenian. Anasun lagod anci stic.

And if you were Armenian you would know that our realations with russia and the russian people goes back to Peter the great.

even further than that brother. It goes back to the conversion of the Rus to Christianity and even earlier with the establishment of Kiev.

[zeytuntsi]

Originally Posted by Armenian

Greetings North Pole, I have been in Yerevan Armenia for a week now. I will be here for the next two months.

Incidentally, I have also been in Yerevan Armenia for a week now and I'll be posting from Armenia for the next couple of months. After years of contemplating it I finally purchased a home in our homeland last year. I already have my Armenian passport and my socialakan apahovutyan kard as well. Yes, my first step to repatriation after a thousand years of exile! My little children are looking forward to the trip.
Maybe we should meet.