Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork City 19

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

I can't believe the divisions are still there. You'd think after nearly a century we'd know better, but just take a look at this thread.

Here are some videos about a discussion titled Murder at the Altar The Archbishop Tourian Murder After 75 Years. I've only watched the first three so far.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ArmenianStudies#g/c/22B1D696E1578F00

[Mukuch]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

[QUOTE=Hye_Psycho;264050]yes
especially those who wave the red socialist flag instead of the Armenian tricolor...
QUOTE]

Nice pair of tits....

[Anoush]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

Anoushka, you must be very proud of him!

Yes Hrai jan, I am very proud of him. He was a genious and he died with great love for his country and his beloved countrymen!

[CRDA-France]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

Thank you for the references of this article :

http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/jaeh/27.1/alexander.html

There also are researches to be done in other historical American reviews :

http://www.historycooperative.org/journals.html

Nil (Paris)
#796

[hrai]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

Sireli Hrai jan; Let me not forget that my grandfather was not an unknown man; he was well known and respected in several communities as he was an orator, community leader and a writer. He was a very intelligent man and plus he fought as a Fedayi on the Cilycian mountains for almost two years as a colonel and had his own troop that he lead.

Anoushka, you must be very proud of him!

[Anoush]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

These "normal rules of evidence & settled historical facts" , posted by you, who admit to using wikipedia, using someone else's review on EBAY to discredit an Armenian professor's work!!!
You demand far higher standards of others than you yourself work to.

And finally, with all due respect, a grandfather telling his children about part of his life, and you, you think he would lie?

Your avatar is perfect for you and you assume others have the morals of an alley-cat.

Sireli Hrai jan; Let me not forget that my grandfather was not an unknown man; he was well known and respected in several communities as he was an orator, community leader and a writer. He was a very intelligent man and plus he fought as a Fedayi on the Cilycian mountains for almost two years as a colonel and had his own troop that he lead.

[Anoush]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

Go be a high personae non gratae.

What is your problem? I don't expect myself to know the ins and outs of Israel's or j'ews' complete history and in due course don't expect yourself to know the ins and outs of the Armenians' complete history when it's not even in your real interest. So stop putting down other people's business or their integrity without knowing what the heck you're talking about.

[Anoush]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

These "normal rules of evidence & settled historical facts" , posted by you, who admit to using wikipedia, using someone else's review on EBAY to discredit an Armenian professor's work!!!
You demand far higher standards of others than you yourself work to.

And finally, with all due respect, a grandfather telling his children about part of his life, and you, you think he would lie?

Your avatar is perfect for you and you assume others have the morals of an alley-cat.

Thank you hrai jan for your kind remarks. You are indeed a gentleman!!!

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

I can't believe the divisions are still there. You'd think after nearly a century we'd know better, but just take a look at this thread.

And at other places too. http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-79125331.html
I was going to try and search The Armenian Reporter website http://armenianreporteronline.com) to see if the article was in their archive, but the website seems to be down (or very slow).

Also see here.

Contested Memories, Divided Diaspora: Armenian Americans, the Thousand-day Republic, and the Polarized Response to an Archbishop's Murder

BEN ALEXANDER

http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/jaeh/27.1/alexander.html

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Դուրեան Սրբազան Նահատակ, Նիւ Եորք 1933 (Arbp Levon Tourian Murder, NewYork Cit

You don't know me, you don't know my integrity and you don't know the high ethics and humanity that I represent and stand for. Nor you know the high personnae of my great grandfather and his uncle. Their humanity, humility and their high standard of ethics. I wish you could be fit enough to shine their shoes as well as mine.

I happen to know the kind of person my grandfather was, and he was not only highly regarded by me; but he was regarded extremely highly by the Armenian Egyptian community at large. Both in Egypt and in here he was a known face with caliber, with good moral values and a very intelligent person as well. I would not doubt for a second his words; but I would doubt yours.

From what I read about and have been told about Tourian; the facts are facts and neither you nor I can rewrite history. Anyone knowing all the deeds that Tourian committed, obviously will not think of Tourian to be a good human being; much less a fitting man of cloth.

Whether you believe it or not; it doesn't matter to me, but again the facts are facts. The ARF as a political party was not involved.

Go be a high personae non gratae.