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DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

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  • DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

    The role of different sunni states is frequently mentioned, when talking about Daesh.
    Most prominent financial sponsors cited being Saoudi Arabia and Qatar, both western allies of the Persian Gulf.
    Yet, the most prominent sponsor, and more so, guide of this structure is Turkey.

    For various reasons, the West, nor Russia seem to call a cat a cat.
    But we, are not bind by these strains....
    Anyway Turkey does its best to harm us by any possible means. ...

    So let's begin to list some facts...
    Last edited by Vrej1915; 11-17-2015, 07:48 PM.

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    Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

    Since day 1 of the russian military expedition in Syria, all the western media is crying fool, on the fact of the first target of Putin is not Daesh, but the preservation of the Assad regime.
    Talk here is not the justification of the russian strategy, since lot might be said.
    Yet, even the most critical sources give the russians the credit of at least 20% of targetting for Daesh.

    Simple question:
    What is the score of the Nato ally turkish air force?
    How many Kurds killed/islamists?


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      Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

      The main characteristic of Daesh, compared to previous terrorist structures, is its "stetehood", first of all, capacity to generate its own income, rather than sponsorship of external/behind the scene structures.
      This income is most prominently generated by the sale of oil.
      On a much smaller scale, the sale of cotton, wheat produced in Mesopotamia.

      Second simple question: who buys the oil of Daesh?


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        Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

        Here is the up to date map of the Levant:

        As we can see, the Daesh has only 2 main borders with the outside world.
        One is with Turkey on the north, between the western shores of the Yeprad and the Kurdish enclave of Afrin, and the second is with Jordan, in the zone of the Irak/Syria/Jordan deseric intersection.
        There is no communication arteries in that desertic Jordanian sector, and hardly major exchanges might be possible.
        While the turkish oulet opens directly on previous Armenian inhabited Urfa and Ayntab...

        Question 3: Why was and is still Mr Erdogan mad, about the possibility of the Western Yeprad sector falling in Kurdish (US allied ground forces) hands?
        Can it be, because the loss of direct ground link with Isis/Daesh vital for Turkey?
        After all, if the question was the link with the "Syrian moderate islamists", among which the Al Nosra/Al Qaeda is seemingly included now, Turkey has yet huge links with those in the sector between Afrin and Kessab!

        Why is Turkey such eager to preserve this special sector?
        Remember, the "safety zone" promoted by Turkey, as a price of its incorporation in the US alliance after "Suruc" operation coincides exactly to this specific zone !!!



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          Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

          Question 4: How comes, Turkey can hermetise its borders, in a very rough, montainous terrain, on hundreds of kilometers, when it comes to stop small kurdish guerilla units travelling on foot, on their familiar, guerrilla friendly terrain, from the shores of Araks near Nakhitchevan , all along Iranian border (Adrbadagan), then Iraki border (Southern/Iraki Kurdistan) under Turkish friendly Barzani rule, to Kobane (Syrian Kurdistan/Rojava)....and yet cant't stop thousands of lorries, trucks, daily travelling between daeshland and Ayntab, in what is basically a plain??


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            Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

            Question 5: How comes, that entire factory, industrial chains originally installed in Haleb erea, the town that was Syria's economical capital (some Armenian owned), were methodically dismanteled, and then very professionally reassembeled in Ayntab, Urfa or Alexandrette, to operated and produce?
            Some specific factories, needed their original Armenian owner's knowledge to operate again... the owners where hunted in Haleb erea by islamists, to force them, to transmitt their knowledge to the new turkish owners ... (most of the time, under life treath against family members taken hostage)....
            A process very similar to what Turkey already did during the Armenian Genocide?


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              Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

              Question 6: How comes the 'refugees" operate as a very organised army? Who is the country that does use those masses to blackmail literally Europe?


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                Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

                Question 7: How comes Isis/Daesh respects all turkish vital interests, notably turkish tourist industry, while blowing up much far Paris? How comes not a single turkish target is being targeted?


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                  Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

                  Question 8: How can seemingly stupid, brainwashed islamists from all over Europe and Northern Kavkaz openly operate in southern Turkey, yet no one of them even created a simple slander for Raki consumers (alcohol) in their "stonghold" of Ayntab?


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                    Re: DAESH-ISIS / Turkey : organic links

                    Ադրբեջանցի օլիգարխի նավթային բիզնեսը ԻՊ-ի հետ. 2 բեռնանավ ճանապարհվել է, երկուսն էլ բեռնվում են
                    17 Նոյեմբերի 2015,

                    Միջազգային մամուլում նոր տեղեկություններ են հայտնվել ադրբեջանցի օլիգարխ Մուբարիզ Մանսիմովի կողմից Իսլամական պետություն (ԻՊ) հաբեկչական խմբավորման հետ համաձայնեցված նավթային բիզնեսի մասին:

                    Այս մասին, ինչպես հաղորդում է Արմենպրես-ը, հայտնում է իսպանական El Economista թերթը` նշելով, որ նավթի մաքսանենգությունը ԻՊ-ի հիմնական եկամտի աղբյուրն է:

                    Նշվում է, որ ԻՊ-ի կողմից վերահսկվող Իրաքի եւ Սիրիայի տարածքների նավթահորերից օրական 1,5-2 մլն բարել նավթ է արդյունահանվում եւ թուրք միջնորդների միջոցով փոխադրվում համաշխարհային շուկա, ինչը Բաքու-Ջեյհան նավթատար խողովակաշարով Ադրբեջանից արտահանվող նավթից գրեթե երկու անգամ ավելի է, իսկ այդ առեւտրից ԻՊ-ի ստացած եկամուտը կարող է համեմատվել ՕՊԵԿ-ի անդամ որոշ երկրների նավթային եկամուտների հետ:

                    ԻՊ-ն նավթը վաճառում է շուկայականից գրեթե երկու անգամ ցածր գնով: Միջազգային մամուլն ավելի վաղ եւս հայտնել էր Մուբարիզ Մանսիմովի ընկերությանը պատկանող բեռնանավերով ԻՊ-ի նավթը փոխադրվելու մասին:

                    Իսպանական թերթը գրում է, որ միջնորդները ԻՊ-ի նավթը Իրաքից եւ Սիրիայից փոխադրում են Թուրքիայի Ջեյհան նավահանգիստ, որտեղից էլ Մանսիմովի բեռնանավերն այն փոխադրում են համաշխարհային շուկա:

                    Ըստ թերթի, օրերս Palmali Shipping & Agency ընկերության կողմից վարձակալված Մանսիմովին պատկանող երկու բեռնանավեր Ջեյհան նավահանգստում բեռնվել են ԻՊ-ի նավթով եւ ճանապարհվել, եւ եւս երկու նավ գտնվում են նավթով բեռնվելու գործընթացում:

                    Վերջին օրերին Թուրքիայի Անթալիա քաղաքում անցկացված G20 երկրների գագաթնաժողովում ունեցած ելույթում Ռուսաստանի Դաշնության նախագահ Վլադիմիր Պուտինը հայտարարել էր, որ որոշ երկրներ աջակցում են ԻՊ-ին` գնելով նրա վերահսկողության տակ գտնվող հանքահորերից արդյունահանվող նավթը:

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