Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

maybe you should have thought a bit more or made an effort to think cus it does not sound you thought of it at all, knowing that if it was not for the Diaspora we would not have Artsakh today, and you would not have what you have now

Are you serious about this? Come on get real, the war was won by a joint effort. However most of the suffering and fighting was done by hayastancis and Kharbaxcis. Maybe before telling other to start thinking you should do the same.

Right now the status quo is in our advantage, the more time passes the more secure the independence of Artsakh will be. Time is our friend, because time will make sure that Azeri oil will run out. Every idea you have presented here will bring war and the loss of life and the destruction of the Armenian economy.

[CilicianArch]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

all I am saying is a war now would be better than a war later mostly.

[CilicianArch]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

Man I hate those Armenian who are like : yeah start another war !

They don't even think about the families there , and I think they don't even have family there. They just hope someone will do the job for them ...
It's not like you are going to fight ... you just hope our soldier fight and win , even if many of them die !

maybe you should have thought a bit more or made an effort to think cus it does not sound you thought of it at all, knowing that if it was not for the Diaspora we would not have Artsakh today, and you would not have what you have now

[Mos]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

Man I hate those Armenian who are like : yeah start another war !

They don't even think about the families there , and I think they don't even have family there. They just hope someone will do the job for them ...
It's not like you are going to fight ... you just hope our soldier fight and win , even if many of them die !

No one wants war. We all know the consequences. We just think that given war is inevitable, what the best time/tactics would be to minimize damage and maximise victory.

I did not assume to launch the war, we can simply provoke Azerbaijan to launch the war, by some military tactics or by recognizing Artsakh as an integral part of Armenia or as an independent state. I'd prefer the first option to avoid negative international reaction.

I think the Safarov case was an attempt to provoke us to attack them or to kill Safarov then blame it on us and make it a casus belli.

[haydavid]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

Man I hate those Armenian who are like : yeah start another war !

They don't even think about the families there , and I think they don't even have family there. They just hope someone will do the job for them ...
It's not like you are going to fight ... you just hope our soldier fight and win , even if many of them die !

[CilicianArch]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

Defending is always much easier than attacking. Plus the skill of our forces and our positions, we would comfortably beat an Azeri attack. The Azeri tactic would not be to take over all of Karabakh, they simply can't do that. Their goal would be to take a few villages, then try to demand concessions. Of course a risky strategy that can backfire and lead to us liberating rest of Karabakh and them having to accept Karabakh and the buffer zones to be annexed to Armenia.

I did not assume to launch the war, we can simply provoke Azerbaijan to launch the war, by some military tactics or by recognizing Artsakh as an integral part of Armenia or as an independent state. I'd prefer the first option to avoid negative international reaction.

[Mos]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

I know war is going to be destructive but I am for a war now, it's better to have now than later. we should not underestimate our enemy under any circumstances and there is a chance that their oil money might make a change of the balance to their favor. I believe in the capabilities of the Armenian army, crushing Azerbaijan one more time will mean the end of the artificial Azeri state and a final solution to the issue and we'd be done with liberating our eastern lands. so we can finally focus on our western lands.

Defending is always much easier than attacking. Plus the skill of our forces and our positions, we would comfortably beat an Azeri attack. The Azeri tactic would not be to take over all of Karabakh, they simply can't do that. Their goal would be to take a few villages, then try to demand concessions. Of course a risky strategy that can backfire and lead to us liberating rest of Karabakh and them having to accept Karabakh and the buffer zones to be annexed to Armenia.

[CilicianArch]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

so the only way we can really achieve it is to crush them a second time if they attack.

I know war is going to be destructive but I am for a war now, it's better to have now than later. we should not underestimate our enemy under any circumstances and there is a chance that their oil money might make a change of the balance to their favor. I believe in the capabilities of the Armenian army, crushing Azerbaijan one more time will mean the end of the artificial Azeri state and a final solution to the issue and we'd be done with liberating our eastern lands. so we can finally focus on our western lands.

[londontsi]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

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I do not believe Artsakh will become independent before Akbazia simply because of the strategic capabilities of each combatant pair.


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Off course Artsakh IS an independent state.

What I meant recognised state.

[Eddo211]

Re: Artsakh Recognition - more can be done

As long as Armenians hold the ground who gives a damn if others don't recognize it.....Its ours!!

I have a feeling if Artsakh gets attacked by Azeris then Armenia will recognize Artsakh as its integral part, send troops and then try to get the Russians involved per CSTO as well. .