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  • More light shed on the why.

    [COLOR=Red][B]"That was the renegade Hebrew ([I]donmeh[/I]) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Four Years Beneath the Crescent. Rafael De Nogales. P 26.[/B][/COLOR]

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    What is interesting, is what I found just by google-ing Amalekite... I don't understand given the description of the Amalekites how they could be considered as, or have anything to do with, Armenians...



    a tribe that dwelt in Arabia Petraea, between the Dead Sea and the Red Sea. They
    were not the descendants of Amalek, the son of Eliphaz, for they existed in the
    days of Abraham (Gen. 14:7). They were probably a tribe that migrated from the
    shores of the Persian Gulf and settled in Arabia. "They dwelt in the land of
    the south...from Havilah until thou comest to Shur" (Num. 13:29; 1 Sam. 15:7).
    They were a pastoral, and hence a nomadic race. Their kings bore the hereditary
    name of Agag (Num. 24:7; 1 Sam. 15:8). They attempted to stop the Israelites
    when they marched through their territory (Deut. 25:18), attacking them at
    Rephidim (Ex. 17:8-13; comp. Deut. 25:17; 1 Sam. 15:2). They afterwards
    attacked the Israelites at Hormah (Num. 14:45). We read of them subsequently as
    in league with the Moabites (Judg. 3:13) and the Midianites (Judg. 6:3). Saul
    finally desolated their territory and destroyed their power (1 Sam. 14:48;
    15:3), and David recovered booty from them (1 Sam. 30:18-20). In the Babylonian
    inscriptions they are called Sute, in those of Egypt Sittiu, and the Amarna
    tablets include them under the general name of Khabbati, or "plunderers."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hovik
      What is interesting, is what I found just by google-ing Amalekite... I don't understand given the description of the Amalekites how they could be considered as, or have anything to do with, Armenians...
      Simply put, we are Amelekites because they don't like us and consider us as their enemies and would like to see us destroyed.
      [COLOR=Red][B]"That was the renegade Hebrew ([I]donmeh[/I]) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Four Years Beneath the Crescent. Rafael De Nogales. P 26.[/B][/COLOR]


      • #4
        So, we are not actually Amelekites by definition - its like a KKK member calling a very dark skinned south american - the n-word... am I following you?
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        • #5
          So where does Amelekites tie in???
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          • #6
            Very interesting article Ann.

            [CENTER][I][COLOR="Red"][B]"We must remind the Turkish Government that when they had Sultan Abdul Hamid, we had Andranik Pasha, Serob Aghbyur, and Gevorg Chaush. When they had Taleat pasha, we had Soghomon Tehleryan. New Hrants will be born, and our struggle will go on.” [/B][/COLOR][/I][/CENTER]

            [COLOR="Black"][CENTER][B]"Hrant Dink's murder is tragic proof that the Turkish government - through its campaign of denial, threats and intimidation against the recognition of the Armenian Genocide - continues to fuel the same hatred and intolerance that initially led to this crime against humanity more than 90 years ago."[/B][/CENTER][/COLOR]


            • #7
              "Bishop Aris Shirvanian, director of ecumenical and foreign relations for the Armenian Patriarchate, told JTA, “This is nothing new.” “It’s quite common,” he said. “It happens all the time. If not every day, then at least every week.”"


              "“I once walked in Givat Shaul,” a predominantly charedi neighborhood at the western end of Jerusalem, “with my cross hanging on my neck, when suddenly a young man approached me and spat in my face. I was shocked. I didn’t know what to do,” Hekmanian said. “Had I complained to police they would have considered me crazy, or would have blamed me for causing trouble,” she surmised."


              “I am so afraid when I go to the dati,” or Orthodox Jewish, neighborhoods, said Anush Hagopian, 25. “During daytime, I conceal my cross.”


              [COLOR=Red][B]"That was the renegade Hebrew ([I]donmeh[/I]) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Four Years Beneath the Crescent. Rafael De Nogales. P 26.[/B][/COLOR]


              • #8
                Originally posted by Gavur
                See above

                You want to make a better reply? This reply had the perspicacity of mud.


                • #9
                  Nemesis Aryans Among Armenians

                  May 17 2006, 09:22

                  Thanks to a Jew, I learned about the website of the “Armenian Aryans.”

                  I am impressed that the “Aryans” in Armenia are that smart: they have even come up with a website! Wow!

                  So who are these people and why are there anti-Semites among Armenians? These are not questions that I can answer, but I can certainly argue that “Armenian Aryans” are harmful to Armenia. I will not argue this in terms of human rights, since it will be stupid for even trying to explain that hating a cultural, ethnic or religious group is wrong. People who are people already know that, people who are not people yet don’t know yet or will never know that.

                  Let’s start with the leader of the “Armenian Aryans:” Armen Avetisyan. I don’t really know him personally, but I have seen a booklet long time ago that had something about him. Two things I remember were that he had no education and that he fought for the Karabakh war. Praise to him for the second one and pity to him for the first one.

                  Well, let us see what else we have on him. Perhaps I should post a picture from their website (which was originally posted by so that we can see his face.

                  This rather Jewish looking person is Armen Avetisyan. He was arrested in Armenia last year for his anti-Semitic remarks. I have heard from an acquaintance of his that Armen has changed some of his anti-Semitic views after coming out of jail. I need to check this, though.

                  So why are “Aryan Armenians” harmful to Armenia? Well, the excerpt below is from the “mission” of the “Aryans:”

                  “We have to end the Zionist oppression on governments and stop organized Judo-Christian religion which has dominated Armenia and Europe for over two millennia and bought world to its most darkest era.”

                  Despite the fact that there should be a comma before “which,” please also notice that the organization fights against Christianity, the 1700-year-old Armenian religion that helped us survive and kept us Armenians.

                  Another thing that I was disappointed with their website was that it listed Asala (the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia) along with Hitler and the American Nazi Party under “useful links.” Asala has been known for being pro-Palestinian, but I am not sure how their administration would react to see themselves listed with anti-Semitists. Oh, I forgot, Asala is a *terrorist* organization that brought the world’s attention to the Armenian Genocide.

                  Long story short, “Aryan Armenians” suck, even though they are capable of making a website.

                  p.s. I have a suspicion who the creator of the website is: an Armenian from California who covers under a common nickname… Oooo, now I will be making a lot of enemies. Perhaps, no. I know a lot of “Aryans” in Armenia.
                  "All truth passes through three stages:
                  First, it is ridiculed;
                  Second, it is violently opposed; and
                  Third, it is accepted as self-evident."

                  Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)


                  • #10
                    Gavur, who did you write the text of that post? or did someone else?
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