Greek Genocide

[ottomans]

Re: Greek Genocide

your nick and your ideas don't suit.Ottoman Empire had had a lot of nations.Yes,their origin,their first leader belongs to a Turkish family but they lost their Turkish identy,they gain a new face.Islam was the Ottoman Empire's face.Majority were Muslims,minority were non-muslim people.Anyway let me remind you one thing else.Ottoman sultans were not Turk!!!!All of these women were Chirstian,they were made to accept to Islam.because of the nationalism,Turks became enemy of the other nations.I don't accuse every Turk about gencoides but the attackers like you.
endly we do not belive your stupid lies.I agree with Avak.Don't waste your time here,read a book or watch a film.This is my advice.

yes that's true!Ottoman sultans are not Turk! they are also Greek,Russian and Armenian!But nationalizm not became when ottoman age,You are smart! Nationalizm became first world war! in PaniTurkizm! you not know my history!
But by the way Come to Eastern Turkey see the Turkish Graves,Armenians killed them(babies,children,women...) in 1912(BY Armenian ASALA,TASNAK terror organizations) after that Ottaman government had to decide to make trek them(Armenians) with Ottoman soldiers But soldiers not put to death,they died with epidemic! 30.000 Armenians died!(by the way their population,Not 1 milion,and also their population was recorded 800.000 in Ottomans archieves) And also Turks died with epidemic! I see a lot of Films about that!
Today a lot of Armenians live in Turkey! And they are Freedom, as like me!

PLEASE ESTEEM TO ME! NO ONE KILLED ARMENIAN OR GREK IN MY FAMILY! and I am sorry to my bad English

[marx]

Re: Greek Genocide

http://www.greece.org/genocide/smyrna1922.htm

http://smyrnialbum.s5.com/

[karoaper]

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Haha, a Greek "genocide", your stupidity knows no bounds.

said mehmet, as he looked up and saw ataturk's rotting dentures.

[ninja]

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Haha, a Greek "genocide", your stupidity knows no bounds.

[marx]

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hello Elysium .. i am coming to the site you suggest me..

[marx]

Re: Greek Genocide

i search for nakratzas a little bit well first of all he is not greek ...he lives in greece but he is calling himself "slavmacedonian" meaning slav(bulgarian) of former yugoslav republic ( not greek macedonian).....so i suppose you know the whole situation(speaking about slav propaganda)...secondly he is a doctor ...thirdly well noone as i saw takes him seriously...he is your best friend since he often translates turkish propaganda...
well you know what's wrong with propaganda...some truths,many more lies some scientific books as a bibliography and vuala "his truth"...

i did not read what nakratzas(lol) says...well as i said you he is a slavmacedonian(fyrom)...so his opinion doesnt worth...he is not reliable...but since i notice some demographic issues i will write down some historical facts...

first of all a few words about the next book ...well it is not a book...we are talking about 17 tomes that deal with greek history...its title is "history of greek nation"...writers of this "book" are (more than 50 )famous professors(greeks and foreigners)(and i have to notice that it was awarded by academy of athens http://www.academyofathens.gr/ecport...4&nt=18&lang=2 )
You can find these books in english language too(and others)..
so ..

province(city and its region 1912) of ANDRIANOPOLE
GREEKS MUSLIMS BULGAR. ARMEN. Israel etc
366.363 , 508.311, 107.843 , 24.060 , 19.300 , 1.096

province of CONSTANTINOPOLE

364.459 , 449.114 , 4.331 , 159.193 , 46.251 , 150.055

province of SMYRNA (gavour izmir...i wonder why? )
449.044 , 219.494 , 415, 11.395 , 18.130 , 55.568

greek population in pontos before the great war(1914-1918) was extremely large...more than 700 .000 of ponto's citizens were greeks(notice kamil pasa accepted)..

hundred thousands greeks were living in others provinces...

more than 90% of the total population in imvros and tenedos were greeks

more than 700.000 greeks were banished between 1913-1918...until treaty of lossanes almost 1.5 million greeks are forced to leave theirs lands where their ancient ancestors lived for thousands years......
1.5 million greeks were killied by turks before 1922...(353.000 of them were greek pontians)...

and quess what, we are not speaking about the brutality of turks for almost 4 centuries...(islamization,murder) ...all the above numbers are just for 20 century!(perhaps i should add cypru's invasion and constantinopole-istanbul's pogrom)

my grandfather's brothers who lived in pontos (7!many of them kids) were hanged by the turks...

ys:do i have to answer to this bulgarian propaganda for macedonia?
i think normally those people who study history of macedonia of 20 century do know of all these thousands and thousands crimes of bulgarian partizans(komitatzis) not only at the beggining of the 20 century but also as nazie's supporters on 2 world war...
oh by the way let me write some stats of macedonia (at the beggining of 20 century.1903).... well at the provinces of monastery (nowday bitola-fyrom) and thessaloniki we have 998 greek schools with 59.640 students 561 bulgarians with 18311 students 49 romanians 2.002 students and 53 serbian schools with 1.674 schools etc ...(notice in greek schools you had to pay so that you can be accepted to study,bulgarians schools were free)...

really i am not interesting in turkish or bulgarian propaganda so i did not read your post....but i believe the above statistics really shows who needs propaganda(butchers) and who doesnt(victims)...

oh by the way speaking about bibliography this book(tome) has more than 10 pages of bibliography about the subject!!(the most are not greek) and lots of witness(just check it)

i also suggest

the great extirpation of hellenism and christianity in asia minor,jean de murat

La Questiod' Orient devant le Parlement ,Rene Puaux
Ward, Mark H. The deportations in Asia Minor, 1921-1922. London: Anglo-Hellenic League

Dobkin, Marjorie Housepian. Smyrna 1922: the destruction of a city.



the blight of asia , george horton(he was the embassador of usa for more than 40 years in otthoman empire,he was there at the day that turks set fire to smyrna)

(witness of hundred people)http://www.papasotiriou.gr/product.g...47&prid=174672

http://www.amazon.com/Not-Even-My-Name-Genocide/dp/0312262116/ref=sr_1_6/103-8500183-1224633?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1185168315&sr=8-6

another witness(awarded by turks!!!ipekci!!)you can find the next book in turkish language also(with more than 200.000 sells,until people like you hunt it

http://www.papasotiriou.gr/product.gbook.asp?pfid=1651788&prid=906027&deid=10902

search TIMES of new york (they have responses)

try to search photos of RED CROSS of past time( murders etc)

stats of ecumenical patriarch and otthoman empire.

and much more

bye
i dont want to deal with fanatic turks so i wont post nothing else...


i am terrible sorry of my english

[tamara48]

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One TURK against the world!

your nick and your ideas don't suit.Ottoman Empire had had a lot of nations.Yes,their origin,their first leader belongs to a Turkish family but they lost their Turkish identy,they gain a new face.Islam was the Ottoman Empire's face.Majority were Muslims,minority were non-muslim people.Anyway let me remind you one thing else.Ottoman sultans were not Turk!!!!All of these women were Chirstian,they were made to accept to Islam.because of the nationalism,Turks became enemy of the other nations.I don't accuse every Turk about gencoides but the attackers like you.
endly we do not belive your stupid lies.I agree with Avak.Don't waste your time here,read a book or watch a film.This is my advice.

[melikianAvak]

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and also Turkish goverment not make a genocide! Armenian or Grek genocides which are a slander!

Get lost attajerk We don't care to listen to your lies. Believe what you want
just don't do it here.

[ottomans]

Re: Greek Genocide

and also Turkish goverment not make a genocide! Armenian or Grek genocides which are a slander!

[ottomans]

Re: Greek Genocide

One TURK against the world!