Muslims occupy Europe

[Haykakan]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

How the hell did we get to jappan while discussing muslims in europe?

[Army]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Japan had a strong army before they got bombed back to the stone ages. The allies demilitarized the country and the U.S. military took over. There are still 40,000 to 50,000 U.S. soldiers occupying Japan so Japan can't do anything regardless of how strong their economy is unless they go gorilla and start taking out U.S. soldiers one by one ala Afghanistan or Iraq. There is even a statement in their constitution that says they aren't allowed to have a military force... how is that for being sovereign, you can't even defend yourself. But they slave all day to make cool electronics and cars so it's all good. No, this isn't a racist world at all... keep watching TV people, ignorance is bliss. Happiness in slavery

Post-war Japan has serious problems. First of all, their constitution limits their land, sea and ground forces. Also, they could not have 'aggressive' weapons such as ballistic missles and heavy bombers. And Japan can not declare war on any opponent; she can only be 'declared war' upon heh.

But all those are just about the law. The most serious issue is, Japanese people are so amused with the Western world that causes them to lose their national pride. However, due to their cultural and social characteristic; they can not easily align with the West; that makes them differ from Germans.

Both Germany and Japan are the 'defeated' sides of the war, however while Germany is a part of the Western world, Japan is an island on far far east with a population who wants to be like Western people.

Also social moral level is so low in Japan, that you could consider Netherlands as a monastery.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Power is what gets you partners. To get power you have to be a strong country-to be a strong country you need to have a strong economy-a strong economy will allow a strong army- a strong army will-.......

Japan had a strong army before they got bombed back to the stone ages. The allies demilitarized the country and the U.S. military took over. There are still 40,000 to 50,000 U.S. soldiers occupying Japan so Japan can't do anything regardless of how strong their economy is unless they go gorilla and start taking out U.S. soldiers one by one ala Afghanistan or Iraq. There is even a statement in their constitution that says they aren't allowed to have a military force... how is that for being sovereign, you can't even defend yourself. But they slave all day to make cool electronics and cars so it's all good. No, this isn't a racist world at all... keep watching TV people, ignorance is bliss. Happiness in slavery

So, Muslims can populate and occupy Europe all they want, but they can't get powerful or change laws without weapons. I've met Muslims that I found were far more trustworthy than any Canadians, Americans or Armenians for that matter. Muslims from say Indonesia are different that Pakistan... a person's religion doesn't make him/her who he/she is, it has to do a lot with personal experience, their parents, their surroundings, circumstances, etc. I wouldn't call many Europeans practicing Christians either, being fearful of another person's faith just means you're not secure about your own. It's not a Muslims fault if the rest of the population would rather waste money on their lifestyles, bmw's, etc. instead of raising children.

[Haykakan]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

yes, it ties into international recognition, which we've been drawing upon ever since the genocide. It has been useful to an extent in terms of winning us foreign aid for our causes.

However, it pales in comparison to having an ally like Russia that defends our basic existence as a nation in the Caucasus. What we really need are more potential allies and partners, so that we can find more wiggle room and can better address the needs of our nation instead of always having to listen to those of our master's (Russia). Unfortunately, the west, the only alternative is not to be trusted, as they support Turkey till the end.

Power is what gets you partners. To get power you have to be a strong country-to be a strong country you need to have a strong economy-a strong economy will allow a strong army- a strong army will-.......

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

yes, it ties into international recognition, which we've been drawing upon ever since the genocide. It has been useful to an extent in terms of winning us foreign aid for our causes.

However, it pales in comparison to having an ally like Russia that defends our basic existence as a nation in the Caucasus. What we really need are more potential allies and partners, so that we can find more wiggle room and can better address the needs of our nation instead of always having to listen to those of our master's (Russia). Unfortunately, the west, the only alternative is not to be trusted, as they support Turkey till the end.

You are right Russia today thinks only about its economic benefits from the gas pipeline to be constructed with Turkey’s approval. Now Russia lets others to do everything with Armenia Turkey and others would like and even threatens us “politely”.

But I guess USA urged Turkey to agree with Russia on that, for a while ensuring Turkey’s support or neutrality in Iraq, until American troops will be taken out. And, soon enough, Russia unexpectedly will find that America is replacing its bases from Turkey to Kurdistan, Georgia and solving its problems with Iran.

Leaving Turkey to face turmoil, instability and the “gas pipeline deal” facilitated by USA would be impossible to rely on. Then USA after throwing Turkey out of NATO will offer it to Russia, for free, to use.

Will see …

[jgk3]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Unfortunately you are right!

But even the moral support is a gain, although not tangible.

yes, it ties into international recognition, which we've been drawing upon ever since the genocide. It has been useful to an extent in terms of winning us foreign aid for our causes.

However, it pales in comparison to having an ally like Russia that defends our basic existence as a nation in the Caucasus. What we really need are more potential allies and partners, so that we can find more wiggle room and can better address the needs of our nation instead of always having to listen to those of our master's (Russia). Unfortunately, the west, the only alternative is not to be trusted, as they support Turkey till the end.

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Didn't seem to help us much during the AG, all we got was moral support, and it seems that this continues to be the case. Look at the recent case of the destruction of our khatchkars in Nakhitchevan, a perfect example of what I'm saying, in a non-war/massacre context.

The most we can get out of Europe's Christianity is basic recognition of such things, but not the prevention of their destruction/transformation/plagarism at the hands of Azeris or Turks.

Unfortunately you are right!

But even the moral support is a gain, although not tangible.

[jgk3]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Therefore, for instance in terms defending our religion as you suggested, we should collaborate with those mighty that have the same problem and may help us in it.

Didn't seem to help us much during the AG, all we got was moral support, and it seems that this continues to be the case. Look at the recent case of the destruction of our khatchkars in Nakhitchevan, a perfect example of what I'm saying, in a non-war/massacre context.

The most we can get out of Europe's Christianity is basic recognition of such things, but not the prevention of their destruction/transformation/plagarism at the hands of Azeris or Turks.

[gegev]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Let's not worry about Europe, she will be fine. No migrant group in any EU country (be it turks in Germany, Arabs in France, or Asians in UK) represent any serious danger to the State or even to the Society at large. If there ever will be a serious need for action then the State will take that action and smash any of these groups in no time. EU, just like the USA, has it's Patriot Act, enabling her to do whatever she wishes to whomever she wishes and whenever she wishes. Full stop.

What we should worry about is Armenia and all the turkchis around us. The goals of turkchis are the gradual destruction of: 1) our language, 2) our culture, 3) our religion and eventualy 4) of our statehood and our nation as whole.

Let me disagree on the point that European leaders are not worried seriously. Because the European “democracy” doesn’t allow them easily to react as they wish.

We are not strong enough to solve all our problems ourselves. Therefore, for instance in terms defending our religion as you suggested, we should collaborate with those mighty that have the same problem and may help us in it.

With the rest I agree.

[jgk3]

Re: Muslims occupy Europe

Let's not worry about Europe, she will be fine. No migrant group in any EU country (be it turks in Germany, Arabs in France, or Asians in UK) represent any serious danger to the State or even to the Society at large. If there ever will be a serious need for action then the State will take that action and smash any of these groups in no time. EU, just like the USA, has it's Patriot Act, enabling her to do whatever she wishes to whomever she wishes and whenever she wishes. Full stop.

What we should worry about is Armenia and all the turkchis around us. The goals of turkchis are the gradual destruction of: 1) our language, 2) our culture, 3) our religion and eventualy 4) of our statehood and our nation as whole.

I agree.