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The Truth or a Bunch of Bullxxxx?

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  • The Truth or a Bunch of Bullxxxx?

    "Man is just a low-grade animal, without intellect, without soul, without virtues or moral values. An animal with only two capacities: to eat and to reproduce."

    So, what do y'all think? Agree? Disagree? Have I offended anyone yet *evil*?

    And if you guess which book this quote is from, you'll get a big, giant, fattening e-cookie! (hint: the book has been mentioned in this forum before)

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    Re: The Truth or a Bunch of Bullxxxx?

    Originally posted by sSsflamesSs
    And if you guess which book this quote is from, you'll get a big, giant, fattening e-cookie! (hint: the book has been mentioned in this forum before)
    Rand, Ayn- Atlas Shrugged
    We all carry reminders of our past, some are more visible than others. Some are so visible that everyone reads what they believe we've become. It's sometimes hard to dissuade others from the story they have written for us.

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      Ok, it may not be that fattening (right?), but it sure is big and giant...AND it resembles a buttcrack! Whoopeee!

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      • #4
        So, Emil, what do you make of the quote? Opinion, sil vous plaite.

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        • #5
          Hmmmmm, what does Emil think of the quote. I think it's lame. If man didn't have all those values, how could we put somebody on the moon? How could we have immunizations? You know what I mean? If man was "stupid," how did they make all the advances?

          Emil
          We all carry reminders of our past, some are more visible than others. Some are so visible that everyone reads what they believe we've become. It's sometimes hard to dissuade others from the story they have written for us.

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          • #6
            Yes, I understand your point, but you're focusing on the means that take man to the end. As in, man has a goal, and he does certain things to get there. Personally, I agree with this part, however sad it might seem:

            "An animal with only two capacities: to eat and to reproduce."
            As far as the soul part goes, I have to disagree. I do believe in the soul/spirit.

            But to me, man is an animal, no matter how much he begs to differ. All that he does in his lifetime is aimed at pleasing his 5 needs, just like any other animal: eat, sleep, waste disposal, sex, and affection (did I miss anything?).

            Fame and accomplishment are merely ways in which his methods of obtaining those needs are made easier.

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            • #7
              I go with a bunch of bullxxxx. Although I must admit, I've yet to taste bullxxxx.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #8
                nice coookie flames

                can i have one too!
                I was, I am, and I will always be the Monster!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Emil Hmmmmm, what does Emil think of the quote. I think it's lame. If man didn't have all those values, how could we put somebody on the moon? How could we have immunizations? You know what I mean? If man was "stupid," how did they make all the advances?

                  Emil
                  I want to discuss your argument regardless to what i think of the thread.
                  Man being "the intelligent predator", experience and observation would make him thing that he is the almighty species. Hence, his raison and way of thinking would turn around what he has accomplished regarding animals.

                  My point is that mankind judge itself in its references. What would arrive if a more intelligent, strong, powerful species appear ? It could be some species man created by himself (technologies related to genetics) or something from mars or whatever.
                  "C'était un des principes fondamentaux de la doctrine Gradgrind que toute chose devait être payée. Personne ne devait jamais, en aucun cas, rien donner à qui que ce fût sans compensation. La gratitude devait être abolie et les bienfaits qui en découlent n'avaient aucune raison d'être. Chaque pouce de l'existence des humains, depuis la naissance jusqu'à la mort, devait être un marché réglé comptant. Et s'il était impossible de gagner le ciel de cette façon, cela signifiait que le ciel n'était pas un lieu régi par l'économie politique et que l'on n'avait rien à y faire."
                  - D.i.c.k.e.n.s., "Temps Difficiles", 1854.

                  ... stupid words filter. xxxxens is an author!!!

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                  • #10
                    That quote is sheer idiocy made by a woman who likely has not spent much time in the wild with real animals. Man is a social animal first and foremost, who is weak and lonely by himself. Food is only a first concern when one is hungry, and reproduction hardly even seems to be instinctual anymore with the number of people absolutely terrified of children. Evolution has come back to bite itself in the ass by making sex so pleasurable, children such a pain in the ass, adults so incapable of rearing them effectively, and by giving man the intellectual capacity to devise a means of xxxxing without reproducing. But I repeat, an individual can do very little on his own. The only two people I can think of that did all that much on their own in recent history are Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kaczynski.
                    Sweet is the lore which nature brings; our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things: we murder to dissect.

                    -William Wordsworth

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