Who the hell understands women?

[Anonymouse]

Okay, WHY are women so hard to get sometimes...I mean they are like damn cats. I cannot understand them and I believe I never will, just like I won't ever understand why you can't make water balloons out of used condoms.

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/menandwomenknobs.jpg

[Lilya]

whats so hard to understand about us huh??

[Anonymouse]

You're all like cats. You crave attention. You can never show what youre truly thinking. Most of the time always ungrateful.

[Nerwen Telemnar]

To show one's true feelings in a situation would equate with vulnerability to most...I'm not implying this is what all women feel, but it certainly is a possibility. Maybe for once we should understand and accept that guys and girls are of completely different galaxies. If a guy were to completely understand a woman, I'd consider him to be somewhat leaning towards the female side anyway. :rolleyes:
Maybe expecting others to open up over the internet isn't the best way to go about things, either?...just a thought..who knows? It's such a cold & cruel medium..yet it allows odd beings like myself the chance to come out and play..


If I took a xxxx in the woods, would you care?

[clubbin714]

Anonymouse

As you can see by my widely popular profile on Armenianclub that I am an expert with the ladies. I will gladly take time off my busy schedule to offer you some advice. Shoot me an email anytime my close friend.

[Nerwen Telemnar]

how about I skip the email and shoot you? :shock:

[Nerwen Telemnar]

I know you weren't talking to me, but I'm talking to myself damnit

[Anonymouse]

Anonymouse

As you can see by my widely popular profile on Armenianclub that I am an expert with the ladies. I will gladly take time off my busy schedule to offer you some advice. Shoot me an email anytime my close friend.

I don't think I asked help on how to get a woman to open her legs thank you, I can get your chicks anytime. However I did throw out something of a more philosophical nature which youre putrid little sapling of a mind cant comprehend.

[Anonymouse]

Okay, I'm convinced that trying to understand women is like trying to solve a rubik's cube. It's best not to think about it, and just agree and disagree as needed to keep them happy.

[Anonymouse]

Anonymouse

As you can see by my widely popular profile on Armenianclub that I am an expert with the ladies. I will gladly take time off my busy schedule to offer you some advice. Shoot me an email anytime my close friend.

Pointless post #19 from you...thanks for the 'insight" here. And =u(< you. :twisted:

[Anonymouse]

To show one's true feelings in a situation would equate with vulnerability to most...I'm not implying this is what all women feel, but it certainly is a possibility. Maybe for once we should understand and accept that guys and girls are of completely different galaxies. If a guy were to completely understand a woman, I'd consider him to be somewhat leaning towards the female side anyway. :rolleyes:
Maybe expecting others to open up over the internet isn't the best way to go about things, either?...just a thought..who knows? It's such a cold & cruel medium..yet it allows odd beings like myself the chance to come out and play..


If I took a xxxx in the woods, would you care?

If YOU took a xxxx? :?

[sSsflamesSs]

If a guy were to completely understand a woman, I'd consider him to be somewhat leaning towards the female side anyway. :rolleyes:

Very true indeed.

Also...

Not only women crave attention. I'm not bullxxxxting you when I say that everyone does...it's in the human blood. Babies crave attention, old goonies crave attention, yes, even men crave attention...you get the idea. Men just don't like to admit it...and I'm not about to go on a mission to figure out why. Women don't spill their feelings, because, like Nerwen said...that shows weakness. All in all, men and women will never truly understand each other. It's a waste of energy and time to attempt to.

[sSsflamesSs]

Okay, I'm convinced that trying to understand women is like trying to solve a rubik's cube. It's best not to think about it, and just agree and disagree as needed to keep them happy.

And yes, Amouse, you have figured out the age old question of why men were put on this planet...to keep us women happy. :twisted:

[Anonymouse]

So now I am forced to change my position again and state that I don't care about understanding women and nor do I want them to be happy, just ME! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

[sSsflamesSs]

Weakling...you cracked.

[Anonymouse]

Actually I didn't, this was my position prior to the position up top. So in essence all I did was change the cracked view I had. I reside with my previously held conclusions!

[sSsflamesSs]

Selfish chicken ;)

[sSsflamesSs]

I can't believe that I'm going to speak against my kind, but here it goes...

Who the hell understands women who stay in abusive relationships?

They are such idiots with no sense of self worth.

[Anonymouse]

Maybe they have a fetish to get abused?

These days its not hard to have any sort of fetish, some women like incarcerated men, others like to be whipped with chains and cuffs, others have a fetish to have sex with dead men, or who knows what.

[Andromida806]

Very disturbing thought

[Chichu]

Ooh, those women... (said in the same tone that the phrase "Ooh, those Russians..." in the song "Rasputin" by Boney M) : )

[Anonymouse]

I haven't heard that song, but I have heard the one that goes like this:

"Kalinka, Kalinka, Kalinka maya..."

[sSsflamesSs]

Hehehe, I have the techno version of that song...it's pretty funky.

[Chichu]

haha, "Kalinka" is one of the most paradoxal Russian songs. If you know the meaning of the lyrics, there isn't much sense in most of them. Yet it is argueably the most popular folk song in Russia and is one of the few widely known internationally. There is definatelly "Russian breath" in that song.

I recommend getting and listening to the version sung by Ivan Rebroff! I dont want to spoil the fun by telling what is it, but I'll say that its very original. :D

[Chichu]

P.S. And the previous song - "Rasputin" by Boney M - is definatelly worth listening to. Its a story telling disco song, with a lot to laugh at and a "catchy" rhythm. :)

[Anonymouse]

Russian disco or techno is the funniest thing to happen.

At least I think so.

[fIReBuRntInHeLL]

WITHOUT WOMAN MEN ARE NOTHING, NO MAN CAN SURVIVE ALONE, HE NEEDS A WOMAN TO PUT HIM IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[sSsflamesSs]

Right on, sista! (I'm assuming you're a sista :rolleyes: )

[Andromida806]

Men are not dependant upon women.... They just submit after the long haul. A man does not find himself in a women. But I will agree that a man can be so ignorent that it takes a women to open his eyes and realize the person he actually is. Men should take it upon themselves to seek his inner spirit, but are blinded by lust, materialism, and jealousy. And that is where a women can calm these senses down and mold the man to be...
A) The man that he was put on this earth to be.
or
B) What his woman wants him to be. ;)

[Chichu]

All in all, there are many positive and negative elements that a woman brings into a man's life. Now, depending on the man's values and ideology, he is going to be affected either by mostly positive, or mostly negative elements. And not taking into consideration that this is absolute speculation, there are good reasons to believe that progressive efficient brain activity in men is directly proportional to an increase in negative effects that a woman could have on him. ;)

"My advice to you is to get married. If you find a good wife you'll be happy; if not, you'll become a philosopher." (Socrates)

[Andromida806]

How dare you waste all those words for a simple statement.... ;)

[Anonymouse]

While women do possess intuition, that never made them above men. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

[Chichu]

Too often my desire to be diplomatic is intercepted like this. I just love language and would not dare to put those tender creatures - words - to waste. I dont always feel comfortable with sounding too serious and rather inadequate, but that for me is less of a problem than not being able to express exactly whats on my mind, fit thoughts into a grammatical structure. Making simple statements always allows a lot more room for misunderstanding and incomplete understanding.

When I was a kid, we used to fix our own bikes. When the wheel of the bike goes from side to side as it moves forvard (instead of being perpendicular with the ground all the time), the easiest way to fix that is to stick little weights on the inside of the edge of the wheel. At first you put a relatively big weight somewhere, after estimating where the wheel is leaning towards more and how big is the problem. If you're really good and lucky (luck plays a role, because there are things that cant be controled even by a "pro"), you'll be able to fix it with that one weight. But most of the time you continue putting smaller weights and constantly testing the wheel until finally you get it aligned. This example just popped in my head and I think fits pretty well. In the same manner as with the weights, a simple statement most often can't solve the problem completely. Even an exceptional writer can't predict the reaction of a big audience; luck plays a role. But a good writer can usually at least come close to what exactly he is trying to say by "molding" it.

P.S. I've gone pretty far from your easy-going reply, Andromida806, thus this shouldn't in any way be considered a counter-reply, but rather a separate "random" thought. :)
To create at least a little link with the original topic, I'll conclude by "simplifying" my previous comment to: women are bad for smart men! ;P (Now, I dont think it is true, but I havent seen any proof of the opposite. And then again, absence of evidence is not an evidence of absence!)

[Anonymouse]

The absence of evidence is evidence itself, that is the logic that pervades evolutionary theory.

[Chichu]

Absence of evidence can certainly pose as evidnce, but can very rarely be a credible evidence of absence. The Logicians' favorite example is: there is no proof that God exists (absence of evidence...), but this does not prove that it does not exist (...is not an evidence of absence).

This way the logicians calm down the creationists who accuse them of atheism. :twisted:

[Anonymouse]

In any event, regarding evolution, I simply cannot comprehend how lack of evidence is translated as evidence for evolution.

[Chichu]

Everyone wants to believe in something. And it is one small step from believing to being in love with an idea. Once the person is almost entirely consumed cherishing the nobility of that idea, argueing with him becomes as tricky as with a "rightful Christian" (or any other faithful member of a particular pop-religion), because he is ready to reinterpret and accept as evidence of his rightfulness anything doesnt explicitly state the opposite (If I believed that my neighbor is The Spiderman, spiderwebs next to his door would be relevant evidence to me). Another common reaction of an "idea lover" is to discard the arguement with an unbased, unexplained, usually short statement.
I want to explain just a little why I choose not to argue extensively with such people. The logical part of it have been described above and comes down to simply being uninteresting to have a discussion where one constantly has to clearify the clear and point out the irrelevant. The moral part is pretty simple too: the people in love with an idea are essentially "happy" and satisfied at least in that aspect, and trying to change it (even out of good intentions, if there is a substantial disagrement with your position, or the "true" position) is not always as productive as it seems.

"My good intentions are completely lethal."
Margaret Atwood

[Anonymouse]

The reason I raise is is because evolutionists are the people who traditionally discard the supernatural existence of a God or Gods because you can't "prove it" or there exists a lack of evidence and/or verification, yet these are the same people who adhere to evolution which itself is lacking empirical verification.

As I've stated before, the only thing evolution has going for itself is microevolution, now how that leads to macroevolution is yet to be proven.

I find this issue of interest since prior to exposing this theory to scrutiny I was a bio major and in light of the puzzle not fitting and the constant reshaping of the contents of the theory to holdfast to an immutable theory was discomforting to me.

[joint1]

The Question is HOW!!!

[HyeJinx1984]

Am I the only man who's never had this "I don't understand women!!!" problem? Every guy feels like women speak a different language or something... I for one have never had the problem of "understanding women"... I can usually read them like a book. Probably why I choose to date so little...

[sad_eyes]

I think women feel the same way about men.

[ckBejug]

What is all this about 'understanding women'. Women are not so different than men. We're all human, and we all, at one point another, crave attention, but even more so we crave feelings of belonging and self-worth and we want to be loved and cared about and needed. Why is this so difficult to understand? Things get complicated when you have the (mis)fortune of happening upon those women and men who are selfish and while they naturally crave all of the above that I stated, they neglect to consider the fact that the person they are with, in turn, craves the same things. These women and men are selfish takers and they think the world revolves around them and that the members of the opposite sex were put on earth to please them, and they have to do little or nothing in return. Steer clear of such people and you won't spend sleepless nights trying to 'understand' them. Love, attention, caring, belonging, being needed, cared for, loved, being part of a whole that is better together than each one apart-- we all want this. What's so hard to understand. This is not to say that there aren't those people out there who would deny wanting and/or needing any and all of these things. These people usually go after pleasure more than anything else and need to be kept happy, entertained, all the time. Avoid these people and I can bet a lot of the 'confusion' in relationships can be avoided... :)

[clubbin714]

ckBejug is correct.

[Anonymouse]

Dammit, stop bringing back my old threads you pieces of slime.

[garegin]

über was sprechen Sie? :confused:

[angelik22]

jinx jan ur like the only guy iknow who doesnt have that problem lol- we should put youin amuseum or something- haha o and one other thing- i thinkmen dont understand women because theyre not trying to- its because they are-some are toob busy with themselves - everyones human yet were all different in our own ways- dont need to understand "women" as a whole- but instead learn to understand individuals - god knows there are so many guys that i dont understand- cause i relly dont care to- but there are some- hehe"believe it or not" that are quite comprehendable :D
now i gotta run to class- seeyah folks

[garegin]

you got master's course? :cool:

[sad_eyes]

über was sprechen Sie? :confused:

Sprechen Sie Deutsch auch? :)

[garegin]

ja, korrekt ;) :)

[garegin]

peu de peu :laugh: :o

[sad_eyes]

Vous parlez la langue française aussi ? Je parle la langue française plus souvent alors allemand. Je parle l'Allemand seulement quand mon père est à la maison, parce qu'il plaît mon père.

[gevo]

jinx jan ur like the only guy iknow who doesnt have that problem lol- we should put youin amuseum or something- haha o and one other thing- i thinkmen dont understand women because theyre not trying to- its because they are-some are toob busy with themselves - everyones human yet were all different in our own ways- dont need to understand "women" as a whole- but instead learn to understand individuals - god knows there are so many guys that i dont understand- cause i relly dont care to- but there are some- hehe"believe it or not" that are quite comprehendable :D
now i gotta run to class- seeyah folks
Actually make that two guys you know who dont have that problem.. Lmer jan.. i dont ever really have a hard time figuring girls out.. if they make it "difficult" for whatever reason, its simple.. move on.. but i must admit. i do have one hell of a time trying to understand parents.. ofcourse this is a tottally different subject.

[garegin]

Vous parlez la langue française aussi ? Je parle la langue française plus souvent alors allemand. Je parle l'Allemand seulement quand mon père est à la maison, parce qu'il plaît mon père.
im so uneducated :o

[Genuine_Stud]

Actually make that two guys you know who dont have that problem.. Lmer jan.. i dont ever really have a hard time figuring girls out.. if they make it "difficult" for whatever reason, its simple.. move on.. but i must admit. i do have one hell of a time trying to understand parents.. ofcourse this is a tottally different subject.

Make it three guys..... some women I can tolerate and some women I really can't, but I don't have a hard time figuring them out.

Usually, if they like playin games.... I say what I gotta say straight out. If they accept it, cool.. we're groovin. They don't like it, I move on. Plain and simple. No time to play games, or babysit, or be the shoulder to cry on.

[Emil]

Women are not meant to be understood. It's a scientific fact that it's impossible to understand them. Don't try to, you'll just waste precious moments of your life. Here's a good analogy:
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy

[hyebruin]

those who are mature and loving and kind and know how to talk to a lady can truely understand women; the rest are still having a hard time trying to understand themselves...

[XxgoeyxX]

those who are mature and loving and kind and know how to talk to a lady can truely understand women; the rest are still having a hard time trying to understand themselves...


Couldnt have said it better myself. If we dont know who we are, how can we understand or try to understand other people.

[hyebruin]

Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy

for sure! :laugh: and if they're both morons then they'll keep the baby and will get married just for the heck of it! :rolleyes: bunch of losers!

[HyeJinx1984]

White people *shakes head*

[Anonymouse]

those who are mature and loving and kind and know how to talk to a lady can truely understand women; the rest are still having a hard time trying to understand themselves...

I agreed, although when I'm drunk I can barely understand myself mumbling in my half sleep daze.

[garegin]

White people *shakes head*
im not white :laugh: :laugh:

[HyeJinx1984]

That's my all purpose "I'm fed up with society" mantra.. just look down, shame my head and grumble "white people"

By the way, you're lucky Ivy Lipstick doesn't come here anymore, she'd be on your ass for hours for that comment.

[garegin]

your thoughts are too libidinous for me.

[HyeJinx1984]

Mmm.. *flicks tongue*

[angelik22]

o haha how could i forget to mention gevo and stud- yea the three muskateers- that understand women lol- anywhoo this threads going way off- i guess weve got it all figred out eh?

[thedebutante]

o haha how could i forget to mention gevo and stud- yea the three muskateers- that understand women lol- anywhoo this threads going way off- i guess weve got it all figred out eh?


Wait a minute. Do you guys really think that Mousey doesn't understand women? Hahahaha

[Anonymouse]

Indeed the debutante. I like to think I understand women. I gather jinx understands women the least, based on his sheer behavior and confusion exuded by his posts. Not that it is anything bad, as obviously I expressed confusion in this above thread made in March 2003. But I will state that there is a general pattern I have noticed in my putrid existence and dealings with females. And the reason I am stating this is for record purposes so as to finally bring this thread to culmination, since I started it and to show that I did indeed learn a thing or two.

Look at dating, which is a loaded thing. Everyone is into this shyt and most guys think that this is the avenue to figure out chicks, by spending endless money and time taking them out. The word "dating" is simply a word that is understood to be "romantic interactions with women". But if you want to strip it down to mere romantic interactions, that doesn't mean you need to be "dating" in order to do it. After all, any couple that has been together for a significant period, look at their behavior. They stay home most of the time, and watch movies from Blockbuster, or do other shyt like they did before they met. This whole "OMG LETS GO OUT TO DINNER" ritual is really stupid.

When you know how to trigger attraction in a woman, all the "normal" rules go away. If a woman feels that powerful emotional attraction for you, then she'll do anything with you just to be in your presence and have your attention. After you got that down, all you say is "come over here". No dates required nor any time thinking of "where to go out to". Now, if you buy her dinner 10 times, call her 10 times a day, and chase her around, then it will be expected that you continue this pattern and provide for her. Then you can be 80% sure she is running back to her ex who is a "jerk" in her words and getting bored of you. Moderation. I've learned that attraction doesn't have a timeline. It happens very quickly, when you least expect it, and if you know how to trigger it and you don't need a lot of "date ideas" once you do. After all that, women don't care what you do together, as long as she's with you. Well, at least that's my two cents.

[gevo]

Indeed the debutante. I like to think I understand women. I gather jinx understands women the least, based on his sheer behavior and confusion exuded by his posts. Not that it is anything bad, as obviously I expressed confusion in this above thread made in March 2003. But I will state that there is a general pattern I have noticed in my putrid existence and dealings with females. And the reason I am stating this is for record purposes so as to finally bring this thread to culmination, since I started it and to show that I did indeed learn a thing or two.

Look at dating, which is a loaded thing. Everyone is into this shyt and most guys think that this is the avenue to figure out chicks, by spending endless money and time taking them out. The word "dating" is simply a word that is understood to be "romantic interactions with women". But if you want to strip it down to mere romantic interactions, that doesn't mean you need to be "dating" in order to do it. After all, any couple that has been together for a significant period, look at their behavior. They stay home most of the time, and watch movies from Blockbuster, or do other shyt like they did before they met. This whole "OMG LETS GO OUT TO DINNER" ritual is really stupid.

When you know how to trigger attraction in a woman, all the "normal" rules go away. If a woman feels that powerful emotional attraction for you, then she'll do anything with you just to be in your presence and have your attention. After you got that down, all you say is "come over here". No dates required nor any time thinking of "where to go out to". Now, if you buy her dinner 10 times, call her 10 times a day, and chase her around, then it will be expected that you continue this pattern and provide for her. Then you can be 80% sure she is running back to her ex who is a "jerk" in her words and getting bored of you. Moderation. I've learned that attraction doesn't have a timeline. It happens very quickly, when you least expect it, and if you know how to trigger it and you don't need a lot of "date ideas" once you do. After all that, women don't care what you do together, as long as she's with you. Well, at least that's my two cents.
Few comments:
The idea of calling the girl over to your house for all the reasons you stated above is good, and in essence is a better "bonding" environment and eventually more intimate (not sex!)... BUT<, sometimes for certain people it is a rather large problem since they still live with their parents, and should i even get into that... oh Lord!>>
Also, this is not true for all girls.. and if i dare say too many i have met. Some would rather be pampered and treated like royality at the expensive restaurants and pocket drying dates. BUT, this does not mean that these kind of people are not capable of eventually falling in love, or being very attracted to the guy as the girls who would rather come to your home.. ofcourse though, there are thos bastards who like to be pampered and then once the money is gone so are they... or they will just sit there and nag and complain until you get sick of them....
Im sorry to have to generalize this way.. i do understand all the exceptions.. and hopefully their are more than i think :)

[hyebruin]

i like being taken out to dinner :D :p HOWEVER!!!! if the guy calls me 10X! in one day!,unless he's calling to check and see if i'm doing ok and i've just experienced a natural disaster or a terrrorism attack,... then he's out!

i am not quite sure about other girls but if i like a guy, doesn't matter what we do as long as i'm in his company and he's crazy about being in mine :p

money can't buy attraction! that's for sure :rolleyes:

[GSTracer05]

i like being taken out to dinner :D :p HOWEVER!!!! if the guy calls me 10X! in one day!,unless he's calling to check and see if i'm doing ok and i've just experienced a natural disaster or a terrrorism attack,... then he's out!

i am not quite sure about other girls but if i like a guy, doesn't matter what we do as long as i'm in his company and he's crazy about being in mine :p

money can't buy attraction! that's for sure :rolleyes:

It doesn't matter what you do? What if you had feelings for this guy who never wanted to go out. He just wanted to stay home and watch tv with you. (Hypothetically speaking). You could handle that throughout a relationship?

As for going to nice dinners, it has nothing to do with "chasing" and "pampering" women like some of you know-it-alls are stating. I like to go to nice dinners. I am not taking my dates, or g/f to a nice dinner because I want to spend big $$$ on her to impress her. I go to a nice dinner because the environment is pleasant, the food is good, I'm HUNGRY, and I'd like to share that experience with someone thats dear to me. I like to go places, see things, and I like to share that experience with someone I care about. There are degrees to that as well. I'm not saying I go to some fancy shmancy French resteraunt where I spend $150 on a plate to get a little piece of chicken with a small side of 2 carrots. The "planning" of it shows to alot of women that you are willing to take the initiative to do and see things with them by your side. The "come over" line is good when you have a girl who's fallen for you and your future plans do not including anything past sex.

[Anonymouse]

Few comments:
The idea of calling the girl over to your house for all the reasons you stated above is good, and in essence is a better "bonding" environment and eventually more intimate (not sex!)... BUT<, sometimes for certain people it is a rather large problem since they still live with their parents, and should i even get into that... oh Lord!>>
Also, this is not true for all girls.. and if i dare say too many i have met. Some would rather be pampered and treated like royality at the expensive restaurants and pocket drying dates. BUT, this does not mean that these kind of people are not capable of eventually falling in love, or being very attracted to the guy as the girls who would rather come to your home.. ofcourse though, there are thos bastards who like to be pampered and then once the money is gone so are they... or they will just sit there and nag and complain until you get sick of them....
Im sorry to have to generalize this way.. i do understand all the exceptions.. and hopefully their are more than i think :)

There are always exceptions to rules. My only point was you do not need to wine and dine girls to create attraction.

[Anonymouse]

It doesn't matter what you do? What if you had feelings for this guy who never wanted to go out. He just wanted to stay home and watch tv with you. (Hypothetically speaking). You could handle that throughout a relationship?

As for going to nice dinners, it has nothing to do with "chasing" and "pampering" women like some of you know-it-alls are stating. I like to go to nice dinners. I am not taking my dates, or g/f to a nice dinner because I want to spend big $$$ on her to impress her. I go to a nice dinner because the environment is pleasant, the food is good, I'm HUNGRY, and I'd like to share that experience with someone thats dear to me. I like to go places, see things, and I like to share that experience with someone I care about. There are degrees to that as well. I'm not saying I go to some fancy shmancy French resteraunt where I spend $150 on a plate to get a little piece of chicken with a small side of 2 carrots. The "planning" of it shows to alot of women that you are willing to take the initiative to do and see things with them by your side. The "come over" line is good when you have a girl who's fallen for you and your future plans do not including anything past sex.

You misunderstand. Going to dinner is not an evil. It is just overkill in popular culture. My only point was you do not need to "take out girls" to create attraction.

[Genuine_Stud]

Indeed the debutante. I like to think I understand women. I gather jinx understands women the least, based on his sheer behavior and confusion exuded by his posts. Not that it is anything bad, as obviously I expressed confusion in this above thread made in March 2003. But I will state that there is a general pattern I have noticed in my putrid existence and dealings with females. And the reason I am stating this is for record purposes so as to finally bring this thread to culmination, since I started it and to show that I did indeed learn a thing or two.

Look at dating, which is a loaded thing. Everyone is into this shyt and most guys think that this is the avenue to figure out chicks, by spending endless money and time taking them out. The word "dating" is simply a word that is understood to be "romantic interactions with women". But if you want to strip it down to mere romantic interactions, that doesn't mean you need to be "dating" in order to do it. After all, any couple that has been together for a significant period, look at their behavior. They stay home most of the time, and watch movies from Blockbuster, or do other shyt like they did before they met. This whole "OMG LETS GO OUT TO DINNER" ritual is really stupid.

When you know how to trigger attraction in a woman, all the "normal" rules go away. If a woman feels that powerful emotional attraction for you, then she'll do anything with you just to be in your presence and have your attention. After you got that down, all you say is "come over here". No dates required nor any time thinking of "where to go out to". Now, if you buy her dinner 10 times, call her 10 times a day, and chase her around, then it will be expected that you continue this pattern and provide for her. Then you can be 80% sure she is running back to her ex who is a "jerk" in her words and getting bored of you. Moderation. I've learned that attraction doesn't have a timeline. It happens very quickly, when you least expect it, and if you know how to trigger it and you don't need a lot of "date ideas" once you do. After all that, women don't care what you do together, as long as she's with you. Well, at least that's my two cents.

Totally agree. Good post.

*Eats some hot pockets.*

[GSTracer05]

You misunderstand. Going to dinner is not an evil. It is just overkill in popular culture. My only point was you do not need to "take out girls" to create attraction.

If that was the case, then I apologize. I agree with you. Most women know within the first few minutes if there is a attraction. There are rare cases where it does take time for girls to open up and they come to realize that, "hey, this guy really does like me, maybe I should give him a chance". But for any long term relationship to grow and develop you have to share alot of your interests, whether its dining, movies, sports, whatever you love to do, with your companion. I for one get bored really fast if the woman is not outgoing.

[Anonymouse]

Totally agree. Good post.

*Eats some hot pockets.*

I knew you would.

Aren't those hot pockets good? I like the pepperoni one.

[Genuine_Stud]

I knew you would.

Aren't those hot pockets good? I like the pepperoni one.

Hell yea man.

The breakfast one they have are pretty good as well.

BTW, Eggo waffles kicks major butt as well.

Wafffllllleeeesss.........*drools*

:D

[Anonymouse]

But see, that's exactly the problem. Whether it's long term or not, guys feel that they have to take a girl out to impress them or attempt to create attraction. I do not believe in that. That doesn't mean you can't "go out". No, in fact I plan to go to dinner. The point was many guys, and including myself at one point, believed that you have to take out girls to win their approval and impress them or create attraction, whichever. It took me time to learn from my mistakes and those of others that trying to impress a girl by taking her out is a no no. That's just my book of rules.

[GSTracer05]

You only have to do that with Armenian girls. :) Haha.

It's a game we all play in society. You do not take a girl out to create attraction but women's feelings are like a temp. gauge, the more time you spend with them the more they increase. Plus most women wont waste time with a guy who does not impress them from first contact. I'm sure you learned just like me that us guys have to walk a thin line when it comes to the "dating" scene. You have to make sure you don't give them too much attention so their heads don't get too big and they fly away, and you can't treat them like dirt so you dont end up home alone with your hands in your pants.

But the whole long term relationship/marriage deal changes the rules. When you finally meet someone that you can say, "sh*t this is the person I want to spend the rest of my life with", the rules change.

[Anonymouse]

Another thing that this reminds me of is how women have a tendency to say things, that actually mean something that is different from what a guy would mean if he said the same words. In other words, women sometimes mean the opposite of what they say, although they will deny it. This doesn't mean it's an iron law or there aren't exceptions. It only means women have this tendency, because obviously men and women are different.

[Anonymouse]

an example would help.
good?
good?
good.
:D

I was planning on not going into details but since you asked, I shall oblige. Women mean something other than what they say, at least they have a tendency to. When I say "I'm going to stay home, eat cheetohs, play videogames", that is what I will be doing. If a woman says that she is going to stay home, chances are she is not. Maybe it is not as clear, but take this to the realm of the sexes and "dating".

When women state they what something, they usually want the things that they're asking for from a guy who already has about ten other qualities that they never utter. So if a lady says "I want a man who is sensitive and understanding", what she really means is she wants someone whos already got his life together, is interesting, unpredictable, dominant, funny, healthy, charismatic, confident, and loyal and who as well sensitive. The upshot is that when a woman says one of these "I want a guy who is so and so" statements, they actually have an ideal guy in mind. And hence women want a man who makes them feel the emotional and physical response that we know as attraction. They want a man who makes them feel it. But most women either can't describe the things that actually make them feel attraction, or they don't want to have to describe them, because they want a man who already is those things without having to learn them. As an analogy, think of yourself as the owner of a ball club, and you are hiring players for your club. Say it's football. Would you want to draft someone on your team who is already a complete athlete, or someone who says "Yea I'm an athlete but just give me sometime to learn". Same goes for women. They don't want a guy that they have to train. Some do, and we call those exceptions to rules, but the general pattern is the above.

[HyeJinx1984]

Another thing that this reminds me of is how women have a tendency to say things, that actually mean something that is different from what a guy would mean if he said the same words. In other words, women sometimes mean the opposite of what they say, although they will deny it. This doesn't mean it's an iron law or there aren't exceptions. It only means women have this tendency, because obviously men and women are different.

...........Hey... I do that.

[Anonymouse]

...........Hey... I do that.

Indeed .

[Anushik]

you know what's interesting? I always say "who the hell understands men ? " :)
Maybe that is the reason why we always attract each other... if we could understand each other it wouldn't be interesting at all ... :)
you want to understand women ? it’s impossible, don’t even try :) … we don’t understand ourselves, how will you understand us? :) I know, many girls will not be agree with me, but I think it’s because we don’t like to admit it :)... Just do your best :):):)…

[Tres Bien]

this is only social -rules that makes women for example as Anon said, women may sometimes say one thing but mean another, this is certainly a sign of low -selfasteem not tó be able to stand up for what you want, For example its often excpeted for a women to be resentfull, if she dates a guy and lets say the guy wants to have sex, and she wants it too, and if the guy asks her shell often say --noo, but in a way that could mean yes.Because she cant say YES , that would make her look like a xxxxx.

[CatWoman]

Guys this should help cuz it's very accurate!! HAHAHA

What women say and what they really mean...
We need~~~~~ I want
It's your decision ~~~~~ The correct decision should be obvious by now
Do what you want ~~~~~ You'll pay for this later
We need to talk ~~~~~ I need to complain
Sure...go ahead ~~~~~ I don't want you to.
I'm not upset ~~~~~ Of course I'm upset, you moron.
You're...so manly~~~~~ You need a shave and you sweat a lot.
You're certainly attentive tonight. ~~~~~ Is sex all you ever think about?
I'm not emotional! And I'm not overreacting! ~~~~~ I'm on my period.

Be romantic, turn out the lights. ~~~~~ I have flabby thighs.
Hang the picture there~~~~~ No, I mean hang it there!
I heard a noise~~~~~ I noticed you were almost asleep.
Do you love me? ~~~~~ I'm going to ask for something expensive.
How much do you love me?~~~~~ I did something today you're really not going to like..
I'll be ready in a minute. ~~~~~ Kick off your shoes and find a good game on T.V.
Is my butt fat? ~~~~~ Tell me I'm beautiful.
You have to learn to communicate.~~~~~ Just agree with me.
Are you listening to me!? ~~~~~ [Too late, you're dead.]
Yes~~~~~ No
No~~~~~ No
Maybe~~~~~ No
I'm sorry. ~~~~~ You'll be sorry.
I'm not yelling! ~~~~~ Yes I am yelling because I think this is important.

In answer to the question "What's wrong?"
The same old thing. ~~~~~ Nothing.
Nothing.~~~~~ Everything.
Everything.~~~~~ My PMS is acting up.
Nothing, really.~~~~~ It's just that you're such an xxxxxxx.
I don't want to talk about it. ~~~~~ Go away, I'm still building up evidence against you.

Can't we just be friends?~~~~~ There is no way in hell I am going to let any part of your body touch any part of mine, again.
I just need some space ~~~~~ ...without you in it
Can you help me with my homework? ~~~~~ If I keep whining, the fool will do it for me.
Do I look fat in this dress? ~~~~~ We haven't had a fight in a while
No, pizza's fine~~~~~ Cheap bastard
I just do not want a boyfriend now~~~~~ I just do not want (you as a) boyfriend
I don't know; what do you want to do ~~~~~ I can't believe that you have nothing planned
I don't really mind where we eat~~~~~ ....As long as it's the place I've already decided on
I like you but... ~~~~~I don't like you
You never listen ~~~~~ You never listen
We're moving too quickly ~~~~~ I am not going to sleep with you until I find out if this guy in Bio has a girlfriend
I'll be ready in a minute~~~~~ I AM ready, but I am going to make you wait because I know you will.
Oh Yes! Right there Well, near there;~~~~~ I just want to get this over with
I'm just going out with the girls~~~~~ We are gonna get sloppy and make fun of you and your friends
There's no one else~~~~~ I am doing your brother
Size doesn't count... ~~~~~ unless I want an orgasm

[Anonymouse]

this is only social -rules that makes women for example as Anon said, women may sometimes say one thing but mean another, this is certainly a sign of low -selfasteem not tó be able to stand up for what you want, For example its often excpeted for a women to be resentfull, if she dates a guy and lets say the guy wants to have sex, and she wants it too, and if the guy asks her shell often say --noo, but in a way that could mean yes.Because she cant say YES , that would make her look like a xxxxx.

I wouldn't say it's a sign of low self esteem, I would say men and women are DIFFERENT that is why it's like that. Just what the hell is the rest of your post about? I'm confused.

[XxgoeyxX]

this is only social -rules that makes women for example as Anon said, women may sometimes say one thing but mean another, this is certainly a sign of low -selfasteem not tó be able to stand up for what you want, For example its often excpeted for a women to be resentfull, if she dates a guy and lets say the guy wants to have sex, and she wants it too, and if the guy asks her shell often say --noo, but in a way that could mean yes.Because she cant say YES , that would make her look like a xxxxx.


Well..I dont think thats what he means by women saying something and meaning something else. If a woman is sexually active I dont think she will say no..(but mean yes)..or whatever. Thats a whole different thing.

[Anonymouse]

Well..I dont think thats what he means by women saying something and meaning something else. If a woman is sexually active I dont think she will say no..(but mean yes)..or whatever. Thats a whole different thing.

Precisely .