Olympics

[jilbagh]

They start in a couple days...what are you looking forward to?

There's that 17-18 year old Armenian boxing for the USA, Vanes Martirosyan I believe...

USA Basketball, Michael Phelps, Gymnastics...

[jilbagh]

I must add that after watching the pre-olympic exhibition games...i am very dissapointed in the officiating...talk about inconsistancy...they make NBA ref's look like God's

[dstyle]

Team needs a shooter, Michael Redd would have helped, hell I'd add Brent Barry and Miller from Sacramento. Get some white on that team, more fundamental players, the team has too many flashy ones.

[jilbagh]

i would've added Redd before Lebron or Wade...good call

[Dzunanush]

I just watched the opening ceremony of Olympics. How did you like it? And which team do you think was wearing the best costumes...must certainly be Burundi with their aborigene-style dress :evil:

Seriously, imagine that Olympics would ever take place in Yerevan. What it would be like? at all... How would the ceremony go?...the olympic fire is burning with Hachaturyan music, Paradzhanov-style decorations on the stadium, on the olympic flag - red granades instead of lavre leaves... and sportsmen dancing "Shalaho"... would be soo colourful!

Whatever.... want to know your impressions about Olympic games!

[jilbagh]

unfortunatly, they dont like Live TV here in the US...so i'm watching it right now...USA should've dressed up like Peter Sellers in the movie "The Party"...birdy num num....

let the games begin

[Genuine_Stud]

The opening ceremonies was good, but ONE THING really pissed me off. :evil:

As all the nations were walking and getting presented, when it came to present Armenia they mentioned one of our athletes and then quickly cut to freakin' commercial break. It lasted for about 10-15 seconds which really sucked compared to how all the other nations got presented.

Damn NBC and their income from commercials! Grrrrr. :evil: :mad: :evil:

[dstyle]

Dude I saw that as well GS. There was a country of with two athletes that got about two minutes of air time, it came to Armenia maybe 7 seconds if that. They cut to commerial, bs bs bs I say.

[steelers10]

i totally agree with you...total bs....at least they didnt eve bother to mention anything about armenia like they did with some other countries

[jilbagh]

i never knew that the italian athletes looked so damn hot!!!

[dstyle]

Jil I was thinking the same thing, most of the girls were amazing I was like its a freakin cat walk.

[Virgil]

OLYMPIC TRADITION
The last recorded champion of the ancient Olympics was Prince Varastades, who won the boxing competition at the 291st Olympic Games (approx. 388 A.D.) before becoming king of Armenia. In modern times, Armenia represented the Soviet Union through the 1988 Games and then the Unified Team in 1992. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) recognized Armenia as a member in 1993, and 32 athletes competed for the nation in 1996.

From the NBC coverage on the games. Check out the full article on there site.

[MadHandle]

OLYMPIC TRADITION
The last recorded champion of the ancient Olympics was Prince Varastades, who won the boxing competition at the 291st Olympic Games (approx. 388 A.D.) before becoming king of Armenia. In modern times, Armenia represented the Soviet Union through the 1988 Games and then the Unified Team in 1992. The International Olympic Committee (IOC) recognized Armenia as a member in 1993, and 32 athletes competed for the nation in 1996.

From the NBC coverage on the games. Check out the full article on there site.

wow...32 athletes, now its like 13 (plus trainers?)

By the way, I saw the whole thing with the Armenia intro, it was without all that NBC bs. The announcer said that half of Armenia's populations is under the poverty line, but who ever athlete wins gold gets 40000$ from the government. That won't happen though, I doubt anyones even gonna win a medal. 96 was the best year with like 2 golds, silver and a couple of bronzes I think.

[spiral]

i never knew that the italian athletes looked so damn hot!!!


Spain looked good too.
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It was interesting to see alllll those different looking people. Really different.

[jilbagh]

USA loses to Puerto Rico....thank you goes out to those players who declined invitations to represent their country because of their ego's....great!

[XxgoeyxX]

Vanes Martirosyan wins the Welterweight boxing preliminaires. Hopefully he will take the Gold.....we'll keep watching!

[dstyle]

Woo Vanes wooooo.

[XxgoeyxX]

Oo and If he does get Gold its gone be for the American team not Armenian. But its okay. He is only 18, what a great accomplishment as such a young age.

And in the end he was interview he said “We’re Armenian. We have this thing where we get a little bit out of control in the ring. I love this sport so much. The coaches have told me to calm down, just think about points instead of trying to get the guy out of there.”

"out of control" I found that very funny.

[jilbagh]

Iraq wins 2-0...what a celebration on the field

[steelers10]

USA loses to Puerto Rico....thank you goes out to those players who declined invitations to represent their country because of their ego's....great!


The irony is that Puerto Rico is a territory of the US. :eek:

[Emil]

Nice article on Martirosyan: http://sports.yahoo.com/oly/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpY29qbG50BF9TAzk2NjcyOTgwBHNlYwN0 aA--?slug=ap-boxing-martirosyanbox&prov=ap&type=lgns

[dstyle]

Very nice article, my friend saw the fight he was telling me about the Armenian flags during the fight, and how good he looked out there.

[dstyle]

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer04/boxing/index

Front page of the boxing section is about Martirosyan.

[jilbagh]

USA Basketball...its fannnnntass...it's pathetic...

More Thank You's go out to: Kevin Garnett, Steve Francis, Mike Bibby, Shaq, Carter, Ray Allen...Thank you for deciding that representing your country isn't important.

[jilbagh]

US Women's gymnastics reclaims a medal position by taking the silver in the team finals. Romania repeated the gold. USA could have taken the gold if it wasn't for critical tenths of points taken off for numerous faults. Congrats to them!

[Sip]

USA Basketball...its fannnnntass...it's pathetic...

More Thank You's go out to: Kevin Garnett, Steve Francis, Mike Bibby, Shaq, Carter, Ray Allen...Thank you for deciding that representing your country isn't important.

I'm glad they didn't. There's nothing more pathetic than a professional athlete showing up at the olympics and destroying what is truely pure and special about these contests.

[jilbagh]

I'm glad they didn't. There's nothing more pathetic than a professional athlete showing up at the olympics and destroying what is truely pure and special about these contests.
instead of having a team comprised of role players who can produce, they decided to pick players that sell jerseys....good marketing

[Virgil]

FROM THE EUROPEAN OLYMPIC COMMUNITIES SITE

BREIF HISTORY OF ARMENIA'S OLYMPIC TRADITION

The history of Armenian sport takes it's beginning from ancient times. Sport in Armenia always was a one of the most important elements of the state's life. The traditional national festival of sport and art "Navasard" were a big success in the country like the famous Olympic Games in Greece.

Armenian sport had a strong reputation in the ancient sports world. The names of Armenian King Trdat of Arshakouni, who became the winner of the 265th Olympic Games in wrestling in 281 A.D. and King Varazdat, who was the champion of 291st Olympic Games in fighting (modern boxing) became the legends and symbols of Armenian sports history.

After the loss of statehood in the Middle Ages, the Armenian people didn't loose their love for sports. There were many national sport clubs and teams in many other countries where Armenians were living before the restoration of Armenian Statehood in 1918. That historic period was critical for the young Republic. The famous question of prince Hamlet, "to be or not to be", was very real for Armenia. But sport continued its life in the country.

The revival of statehood was a historical date for Armenian sport and it was not by accident at all that Armenia has always been one of the leading sports republics of the ex-USSR. Herein are only some facts that generally illustrate the sports history.

Thirty-five Armenian sportsmen have taken part in all the Olympic Games. Twelve of them won the champion's title 16 times, 14 sportsmen won 15 times silver and bronze medals in Olympiads, 23 sportsmen won 42 world championships, 37 sportsmen became European champions 55 times and 18 sportsmen won 22 World Cups.

Many of them are taking an active part not only in Armenian sports, but also in the life of international sports. The names of Olympic champions such as Hrant Shahinyan and Albert Azaryan (gymnastics), Vladimir Yengibaryan (boxing), Hrachya Petikyan (shooting), Yuri Vardanyan (weightlifting), World and European champions Benur Pashayan (wrestling) Yuri Sarkisyan (weightlifting), boxers Israel Akopkokhyan and Nshan Mounchyan and many others are well known in the sports world.

Armenian sport has earned a high reputation in the Summer Olympic Games of Barcelona '92 that was confirmed after the proclamation of Independence of Armenia in '91. Five Armenian athletes took part in the Olympiad and four of them earned three gold and one silver medal.

The National Olympic Committee of Armenia was founded in October 1991.
However September of 1993 became the historical date for Armenian sport. This was when the International Olympic Committee recognised the Armenian NOC. And in February 1994, the Republic of Armenia debuted for the first time in an Olympiad (winter Olympic Games-94 in Lillehammer) as an independent state and became integrated into the International Olympic Family.

Now Armenia not only is going to send athletes abroad for participation but also hopes to host international competitions. There are many high-class sports arenas in Armenia which were the sites of many prestigious tournaments. Among these there are "Hrazdan" stadium, Tsakhadzor sports base, velodrome, "Tzitzernakaberd" sport hall and many others.

An official IOC delegation has visited Armenia and the President, H.E. Juan Antonio Samaranch, President of the ANOC Mr. Mario Vazquez-Raña, EOC President, Dr. Jacques Rogge, and other members of the delegation became acquainted with the current sports situation in Armenia. The delegation's visit was very useful and lifted the hopes for all the Armenian people because the leaders of the international Olympic Organisations have promised to support sport in Armenia. The IOC, EOC, and ANOC always were helping the NOC of Armenia and it was very important for national sports.

The Armenian people are grateful to all the International Olympic Family for this backing. The NOC of Armenia, all sports organisations and sportsmen in the Republic are preparing for their participation in the international competitions. In spite of the economic crisis, blockades, the lack of many important products, electricity and gas, our sportsmen aimed for a worthy representation in '94 for the centennial year. And also for the 100 year anniversary of the founding of the modern Olympic games in '96. The two important dates in the world's sports history.

The Armenian sports organisations and sportsmen have began a dedicated preparation for the Olympic Games in Sydney 2000. The President, Mr. Benur Pashayan, and the Secretary General, Mr. Nshan MUNCHYAN, are proudly looking forward to continuing the NOC's tradition in these upcoming Games.

http://www.eurolympic.org/jahia/Jahia/cach...04?language=eng

[irina16]

Hey dose enyone know what is happening with the Armenian in the Olympics? which part are we playing? i have been watching the Olympics since it started but nothing with the Armenians?

[Emil]

I saw Vanes fight this afternoon on the Spanish channel. He lost to a guy from Cuba.

[XxgoeyxX]

I saw Vanes fight this afternoon on the Spanish channel. He lost to a guy from Cuba.

Yes, its sad but it was gone happen. He was to young and did not have enough experience to win. But I still had high hopes. :)

[jilbagh]

there's talk about the judges being too strict with USA boxers...thats vacuum

[XxgoeyxX]

Like you I still dont understand why Paul Hamm won Gold for Men's Gymnastics. I thought the Judges where not strict enough.

As for boxing...going back a couple of days. Azerbaijan should not have won the Greek guy...again I dont know why the judges didnt stop that!

[spiral]

Like you I still dont understand why Paul Hamm won Gold for Men's Gymnastics. I thought the Judges where not strict enough.


He won GOLD?

I was watching yesterday and he fell, and they said if anything he may still have a chance for bronze, but even that's unlikely. I didn't watch the rest of it.

I felt bad for the poor freckled guy. I'm glad he won... if he did.

[Emil]

He won GOLD?

I was watching yesterday and he fell, and they said if anything he may still have a chance for bronze, but even that's unlikely. I didn't watch the rest of it.

I felt bad for the poor freckled guy. I'm glad he won... if he did.

Yes, he went from 12th place to win the gold! I saw the vault where he fell on his butt. The announcers were saying "Oh no, there go his chances for a medal." It's amazing he won, I think the 2 Koreans messed up alot in order for him to win.

[XxgoeyxX]

Yes, he went from 12th place to win the gold! I saw the vault where he fell on his butt. The announcers were saying "Oh no, there go his chances for a medal." It's amazing he won, I think the 2 Koreans messed up alot in order for him to win.


No, I dont think the Koreans messed up a lot. He did a great job on the last one, but I dont think it was Gold.

He won by 12 thousandth of a point (was it)..come on please tell me that wasnt done just for him to win it.

[Emil]

It's a conspiracy!

[spiral]

Yes, he went from 12th place to win the gold! I saw the vault where he fell on his butt. The announcers were saying "Oh no, there go his chances for a medal." It's amazing he won, I think the 2 Koreans messed up alot in order for him to win.

Haha

unbelievable!

Did you see the Romanian girls the day before?

They did a good job.
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On a side note. Is there some sort of Anatomical/medical/physiological reason why gymnasts are so short, and often dwarf-like?

[Virgil]

The actions of the United States always are connected to politics. When the Soviet Union was dominating the Olympics the U.S. quickly made sure professional athletes would be allowed to compete in the Olympics. Now, China is pretty dominate in the Olympics in terms of medals, but yet where is the U.S.?

Of course, Americans are going to "win". They have a endless supply of athletes from different racial and ethnic backgrounds. A Russian contender is ethnically Russian, but the same can not be said of a U.S. athlete.

My point is that you can not compare the U.S. to team with those of other nations because of the fact that the U.S. is so culturally, racially, and ethnically diverse.

[SagGal]

He won GOLD?

I was watching yesterday and he fell, and they said if anything he may still have a chance for bronze, but even that's unlikely. I didn't watch the rest of it.

I felt bad for the poor freckled guy. I'm glad he won... if he did.Yes, he fell but later he came back and amazed everyone with his jumps or something. Pretty cool.

[spiral]

My point is that you can not compare the U.S. to team with those of other nations because of the fact that the U.S. is so culturally, racially, and ethnically diverse.

What's your point?

[Virgil]

What's your point?

Sorry, let me further explain "my point". There is not such thing as a person of American ethnicity and because of this you can not compare the American team to that of the Armenian or any other country for that matter. In the Armenian (using Armenia as a example) team everyone is Armenian, which is why their win is a bit more legitiment.

For instance, let as suppose that Martirosyan won. Would he win as a American or a Armenian? He would win as a Armenian representing another nation because being American is only the equivalent of a nationality, but in no way is he actually "American". No one in the world is actually American unless they have feather sticking out of their heads. So, the entire idea of "representing" your country makes no sense when it comes to the U.S. team. It is the equivalent of buying athletes from around the world to represent your country.

[jilbagh]

USA! USA! USA! USA! Hamm did good on the rest of his appartas and so did lil miss Carly Patterson :) USA!!!!

[Emil]

On a side note. Is there some sort of Anatomical/medical/physiological reason why gymnasts are so short, and often dwarf-like?

Some of them do have weird bodies. I think it's because they are all so young, so they haven't matured yet? The one girl from the Russian team, Svetlana Khorkina though is so much taller than the rest.

[Sip]

My point is that you can not compare the U.S. to team with those of other nations because of the fact that the U.S. is so culturally, racially, and ethnically diverse.

"culturally, racially, ethnically diverse?" :D :laugh: ... is it really that hard for you to say "generally superior"? It's time to start seeing beyond nations and races and start appreciating athletes for what they are: superior human specimens.

Though I really don't mind having the "national" categorization in the games because sort of like affirmative action, it allows the less advantaged countries to send their athletes as well. It kinda levels the playing field for the long run.

[Darorinag]

USA! USA! USA! USA! [snipped] USA!!!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Virgil]

"culturally, racially, ethnically diverse?" :D :laugh: ... is it really that hard for you to say "generally superior"? It's time to start seeing beyond nations and races and start appreciating athletes for what they are: superior human specimens.

Though I really don't mind having the "national" categorization in the games because sort of like affirmative action, it allows the less advantaged countries to send their athletes as well. It kinda levels the playing field for the long run.

Seaphan, what is the Olympic games about? Yes, we all know it is a way to bring together the peoples of the world, but most importantly its about representing your country. In my opinion the U.S's domination of the medal count is in no way legitiment. Russian and Chinese domination is legitiment in that almost all their athletes are ethinically Russian and Chinese respectivily.

Lastly, outside of gymnastics, swimming, and track it is not very competitive. When is the last time Americans have a won a world cup? Most of their athletes are pros anyway, so, that makes a big difference as well.

[Sip]

I am against pro athletes going to these games. It's not about nationality, it's about the athletes. As far as the world cup, if Greece can win a european championship, anything is possible :D

[Genuine_Stud]

As far as Armenia, what sports are they playing in the Olympics?

I have yet to see our country compete in any of the sports.

Are the sports coming up?

Did the sports pass on by without televising the Armenian team?

If any of you know of a Olympic competition or sport Armenia is competing in or going to compete in, please let all of us know.

[Virgil]

Armenia has a good weightlifting and wresling program. However, most of their top athletes have been bought out by richer European countries. The top wrestler was bought by the Bulgarian team, but I am not sure.

Anyways, Armenia and Armenians in general are very competitive. We have had good sportsman throughout time, so, with a little bit more funding we can have a awesome line up.

I just hope we can get our soccer team up there and I think they just got a new coach, so, that could help.

[Darorinag]

Genuine_Stud:

http://www.athens2004.com/en/ParticipantsAthletes/newParticipants?discipline=&noc=ARM&name=

[Tres Bien]

"Seaphan, what is the Olympic games about? Yes, we all know it is a way to bring together the peoples of the world, but most importantly its about representing your country. In my opinion the U.S's domination of the medal count is in no way legitiment. Russian and Chinese domination is legitiment in that almost all their athletes are ethinically Russian and Chinese respectivily."

You have an intresting point of view. Maybe turkey should be banned from the olympics as well...and azerbadjian..and USA...as they are really false nations, accorining to me anyway.But the olympics is not about politics, but about the athlets as seaphan said.

[Genuine_Stud]

Genuine_Stud:

http://www.athens2004.com/en/ParticipantsAthletes/newParticipants?discipline=&noc=ARM&name=

Very cool Darorinag. Thanks.

Would you know when the next sport event(s) (that these athletes are involved in) would be to watch on television (NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, etc.)?

[Darorinag]

I am yet to find a compiled schedule for the Armenian team.

There's an Armenian competing in weightlifting tomorrow (SAT 21 AUG 2004 - Start Time: 20:00). You'll have to check out with the TV stations to see if they are showing those particular ones.

http://www.athens2004.com/en/WeightliftingMen/results?rsc=WLM085A01&frag=WLM085A01_C51

And another one on WED 25 AUG 2004 - Start Time: 20:00

http://www.athens2004.com/en/WeightliftingMen/results?rsc=WLM025A01&frag=WLM025A01_C51

Armenian in Women's 100 m athletics competed today but didn't qualify for the semifinal:

http://www.athens2004.com/en/AthleticsWomen/results?rsc=ATW001908&frag=ATW001908_C73A

Men's Light Fly Weight (48kg) Round of 16 - ALI Najah (Iraq) vs NALBANDYAN Aleksan (Armenia) August 21, 2004 : 20:45 - 20:56

That's all I could come up with from those who haven't yet competed or have made it to the next round. The wrestling start lists haven't been posted.

Anyway, you can check out the schedules here:

http://www.athens2004.com/en/results/results/

[Genuine_Stud]

I am yet to find a compiled schedule for the Armenian team.

There's an Armenian competing in weightlifting tomorrow (SAT 21 AUG 2004 - Start Time: 20:00). You'll have to check out with the TV stations to see if they are showing those particular ones.

http://www.athens2004.com/en/WeightliftingMen/results?rsc=WLM085A01&frag=WLM085A01_C51

And another one on WED 25 AUG 2004 - Start Time: 20:00

http://www.athens2004.com/en/WeightliftingMen/results?rsc=WLM025A01&frag=WLM025A01_C51

Armenian in Women's 100 m athletics competed today but didn't qualify for the semifinal:

http://www.athens2004.com/en/AthleticsWomen/results?rsc=ATW001908&frag=ATW001908_C73A

Men's Light Fly Weight (48kg) Round of 16 - ALI Najah (Iraq) vs NALBANDYAN Aleksan (Armenia) August 21, 2004 : 20:45 - 20:56

That's all I could come up with from those who haven't yet competed or have made it to the next round. The wrestling start lists haven't been posted.

Anyway, you can check out the schedules here:

http://www.athens2004.com/en/results/results/


Very cool man. I appreciate it.

[steelers10]

Seaphan, what is the Olympic games about? Yes, we all know it is a way to bring together the peoples of the world, but most importantly its about representing your country. In my opinion the U.S's domination of the medal count is in no way legitiment. Russian and Chinese domination is legitiment in that almost all their athletes are ethinically Russian and Chinese respectivily.

Lastly, outside of gymnastics, swimming, and track it is not very competitive. When is the last time Americans have a won a world cup? Most of their athletes are pros anyway, so, that makes a big difference as well.


That's what makes this country so great. No other country in the world could support the statement that "All the athletes come with different ethnic and cultural backgrounds, but can all play under the same banner of a country" with any validity.

[jilbagh]

I HATE DELAY!!! The east coast gets to watch the olypmics and todays basketball game LIVE...but nooooo, the west coast has to wait until we know the score...east coast bias at a new low...bastards

[Darorinag]

I was watching USA vs Lithuania a while ago. Pretty boring. *yawn* I prefer watching beach volleyball lol.. :rolleyes:

[jilbagh]

let me guess...you woke up early to watch the mens trmpoline...damn ccan't even spell that word without it being censored...now thats a little outraged censoring

[Darorinag]

lollll, no, actually (since when is tr@mpoline a sport?? lollllllll so gay)... I woke up early to see the Armenians competing in boxing and weightlifting, but they didn't show it. :mad:

Anyway, the Armenian in men's 48 kg boxing defeated his Iraqi opponent 24 to 11. :D :D He advances to the quarterfinals, where he'll be playing against a chink. :laugh:

Go Aleksan Nalbandyan!

Oh and apparently ,the Armenian weightlifter (85 kg category) finished 7th.

At least the freaking xxxs won ONE freaking bronze medal. :mad:

Edit: Men's beach volleyball is nice. *drool* :naughty: :laugh:

Ohhhh yes, and Russia beat USA in water polo!! wooooooooo!! but water polo players look so outrageously gay in those caps.. :o

Yeah, and did you hear the Paul Hamm controversy? Apparently the Americans had some good friends among the judges. ;) :laugh:

[Darorinag]

LTU 94, USA 90

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[jilbagh]

yeah i was laughing just as hard....its freakin pathetic

[Darorinag]

Don't worry, Angola will be an easy one. ;) :laugh:

[Sip]

Come on ... the US can't be expected to win ALL the medals ... I mean especially with historically powerhouse basketball nations like Lithuania and Puerto Rico :laugh: :D :crying:

[Darorinag]

Who said we were expecting that? But since there's all the fuss about USA being the capital of basketball... then I expect them to win over SOME teams.. I mean, other than Angola.. :laugh:

[Sip]

If I were a pro basketballer in the US, there's no way in hell I'd go to play in the olympics ... it's like the same as a guy agreeing to do boxing with a woman. It's a no win situation: If he wins, he beat a girl, and if he loses, he got beaten by a girl :D

[jilbagh]

i dont know if you were being sarcastic about lithuania, but they really have been a stronghold in international competetion since about 1992 when they played with their ty-dyed jerseys...

what is really sad is that baseball is America's pastime and they didn't even qualify

[Darorinag]

Haha, sour grapes, Seapahn. :laugh: Hey, at least you can hope USA will beat Angola. :laugh:

Haha at baseball. USA lost the women's 100 m final (athletics) in style today. By who else but a Belarussian (as white as white can be). :laugh: :laugh: Oh yes, and the women's 4 x 100 medley relay in swimming!! The Aussies kicked some American *ss. Not to mention, the whole Paul Hamm controversy.. now the only reason USA has won so many medals is that it has sent more atheletes than anyone else. :laugh: haha, at least Americans can be proud of NOT winning the tr@mpoline medal!!! :laugh:

And the only gold South Africa has was by WHITE men (swimming!).. now watch the whiny black South Africans accept the honour of those gold medals, then b*tch about the presence of white people in their country. :laugh: Oh yes, did I also say that someone brought gold for Zimbabwe, and that athlete wasn't black? :laugh: (gee, I guess there was discrimination in sports competitions too, because black Zimbabweans didn't win :crying: )

Sounds like blacks have been having a bad year, after all.. :laugh:

[Virgil]

That's what makes this country so great. No other country in the world could support the statement that "All the athletes come with different ethnic and cultural backgrounds, but can all play under the same banner of a country" with any validity.

Steeler, the U.S. is a modern day Roman Empire. For the sake of argument I never stated this country was "bad", however, their wins are in no way legitimate. You can twist this around and say how “multiculturalism” is a good thing because my point has nothing to do with the pros and cons about “multiculturalism” even though I am against a multicultral society.

Ethnically there is no such thing as a American, so, someone that was a born in Armenia competing for the U.S. does in no way "represent" the athletic prowess of the U.S. If what your saying is true then technically everyone that has a American citizenship is a American.

[Darorinag]

What's so great about "all athletes with different ethnic and cultural backgrounds [playing] under the same banner of a country"? :confused: I fail to see the point.

[jilbagh]

you get out of the house often?

[Darorinag]

Those last few days must be very stressful for an American 'patriot' like you, Mr. jilbagh.. take it easy. :laugh:

[jilbagh]

tell me about it, our basketball team comprised with 3rd choice players can't get it right, niether can the judges...and our president akh akh akh...time to escape to tahiti

[Darorinag]

Ahahahahahhaha, the Paul Hamm controversy is now even more ridiculous than ever. Turns out the judge from "Colombia" is in fact from Colombus, Ohio. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Ahahahhaha, hail the new Olympic champion in gymnastics!! :laugh:

Now imagine how many judges there are from "Colombia", and how many go undetected.. and you'll get the picture. :laugh:

[jilbagh]

and how many are undetected at airports...or how many get blacklisted mistakenly to board an aircraft, or how many are on john ashcrofts big brother list

[jilbagh]

USA v. Angola 4:30AM PST, USA channel...lez dew it

[Darorinag]

:laugh: Prayer will help USA. :laugh:

[Darorinag]

Armenians competing in wrestling tomorrow:

Men's Greco-Roman 120kg Pool Elimination (Haykaz Galstyan - ARM) - August 24 - 9:30 am

Men 66kg Pool Elimination (Vaghinak Galustyan - ARM) - August 24 - 9:30 am

Men 84kg Pool Elimination (Levon Geghamyan - ARM) - August 24 - 5:30 pm

I think I got that schedule right.

[xBaron Dants]

Armenians competing in wrestling tomorrow:

Men's Greco-Roman 120kg Pool Elimination (Haykaz Galstyan - ARM) - August 24 - 9:30 am

Men 66kg Pool Elimination (Vaghinak Galustyan - ARM) - August 24 - 9:30 am

Men 84kg Pool Elimination (Levon Geghamyan - ARM) - August 24 - 5:30 pm

I think I got that schedule right.

If I'm not mistaken, boxer Aleksan Nalbandian will also be competing tomorrow.

Here's hoping that they all win! We need some medals!

[Darorinag]

Yup, Aleksan Nalbandyan will be competing tomorrow!

Men's Light Fly (48kg) Quarterfinal - ZOU Shiming (China) vs. NALBANDYAN Aleksan (Armenia) - August 24 - 8:04 pm

[jilbagh]

is that athens time?

[Darorinag]

I believe so... because I just checked what time they had on the tickets, and they've put 9:30 am for wrestling. So I'm guessing it is... Hmm.. the problem is, I didn't know it went on till 11:45 pm, which is what it shows for the Athletics ticket? :confused:

[jilbagh]

i dunno...there is a 10 hour difference from Athens to LA, but most of the events aren't live in the west coast. Except for the basketball game this morning i was up for at 430AM...

[Darorinag]

You woke up at 4:30 for the USA vs Angola game? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[jilbagh]

no actually i stayed up till 6am watching it..

[Darorinag]

I meant to say, you woke up THAT early for THAT game? :eek: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[jilbagh]

lol, i didn't sleep till 6am...i never slept to wake up at 430...remember i'm a basketballogist

[jilbagh]

USA (3-2) v. Spain (5-0)

Thursday 4:30AM Pacific, 730AM Eastern, 230PM Athens.

USA or Bravo Channel in the USA also airing in HD on NBCHD...

[dstyle]

Ya I'm going to stay awake/wake up for that lol.

[jilbagh]

So I woke up early to watch the USAv. Spain game...it was a good thing, except the officials looked like they were picked random from the street.

It was funny to watch the Spain coach get pissed lol...looks like Greece is up next, they have a 12 point lead on Argentina in the 4th

[jilbagh]

Men's Basketball

USA vs. Argentina

10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern, 8:00pm Athens...NBC, MSNBC, NBC-HD

[Virgil]

Sorry, but do you know how stupid you sound coming to a Armenian forum and posting times for U.S. dominated sports? This is called Armenian Club not American Club, sorry, but this is the kind of stupid stuff Armenians do that really shows where we are headed as a people.

[jilbagh]

Sorry, but do you know how stupid you sound coming to a Armenian forum and posting times for U.S. dominated sports? This is called Armenian Club not American Club, sorry, but this is the kind of stupid stuff Armenians do that really shows where we are headed as a people.

this is a sports forum, where we talk about sports. if armenia had a ball team we'd talk about them too...now go back to the septic tank you came out of

[jilbagh]

officiating conspiracy continues.....USA got rocked by argentina...im not gonna get into it, its bullshiit, the IOC really needs to look into fixing the un-professionalism in officiating/judging

[Darorinag]

Sorry, but do you know how stupid you sound coming to a Armenian forum and posting times for U.S. dominated sports? This is called Armenian Club not American Club, sorry, but this is the kind of stupid stuff Armenians do that really shows where we are headed as a people.
I agree. It seems like there are people out there who are more interested in AMERICAN wins than Armenian wins. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: But oh well, there are always idiots out there, no? :(

[Darorinag]

Yes, yes, some huge conspiracy it is! Everyone hates USA and is jealous. :laugh: I am yet to see you (or any other American) admit that they were defeated fair and square. If 'you' win, it's because you were the best. If you lose, it's because there was a conspiracy all along!

[Emil]

Wow, how sad. Did you guys see the mens marathon? Some fool runs out of the crowd and attacks the leader. The leader of the race won bronze instead of gold.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/track/2004-08-29-marathon-intruder_x.htm

[jilbagh]

Yes, yes, some huge conspiracy it is! Everyone hates USA and is jealous. :laugh: I am yet to see you (or any other American) admit that they were defeated fair and square. If 'you' win, it's because you were the best. If you lose, it's because there was a conspiracy all along!

I wasn't only talking about team USA...Cuba was involved in baseball, although they still won gold. South Korea in gymnastics, Russia in track and field, USA & Spain in Basketball... I know im missing some more there were alot, but what would the Oly's be without one. I dont think there's good organisation or training for judges & officials in the games. The only consistant thing is that they're inconsistant.

[jilbagh]

Wow, how sad. Did you guys see the mens marathon? Some fool runs out of the crowd and attacks the leader. The leader of the race won bronze instead of gold.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/track/2004-08-29-marathon-intruder_x.htm



wow....wow....wow....that freakin' sucks!!!

[Emil]

I'm watching it now, waiting for it to happen!

Poor guy, I just saw it. He's crying while running. I feel bad for him. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

[jilbagh]

good sportsmanship would have the top 3 winners re-adjust, usa take bronze, he'll take gold and the gold winner the silver