Barsgahaye, shortening last names, etc...

[Emil]

I am Barsgahye and my last name does not end in the traditional Armenian way.

[HyeJinx1984]

You've piqued my interested, how does it end?

And damnit, I'm so sick of Persians and Parskahyes. I swear, if I have to spend another night with my dad's fmaily and their friends.. I don't know if I can take it man, another "maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamet voooonsa?" and I'm gonna karate chop my cousins and xxxxx slap my hamasik horkur out the window.

*Lets out a deep breath* Badbakht...

[Tres Bien]

the only way to get rid of annoying parskahyes is , to move to australia and live an anonymous life.

[Emil]

You've piqued my interested, how does it end?

It ends in "or."

[HyeJinx1984]

Hmm... I wonder how many last names end with either the Ian or Yan as oppose to anything else.. I'm assuming the non-I/Yan last names are less then 10 percent. The weirdest ones are the ones that end with 's', like my grandma "Danielyans"

[hyebruin]

You've piqued my interested, how does it end?

And damnit, I'm so sick of Persians and Parskahyes. I swear, if I have to spend another night with my dad's fmaily and their friends.. I don't know if I can take it man, another "maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamet voooonsa?" and I'm gonna karate chop my cousins and xxxxx slap my hamasik horkur out the window.

*Lets out a deep breath* Badbakht...

:crying: :crying: i don't elongate like that, only thing i elongate is jaaaaaanaaaaaa.... :crying: :crying:

[dusken]

i don't elongate like that, only thing i elongate is jaaaaaanaaaaaa....


You should not do that either.

[spiral]

You've piqued my interested, how does it end?

And damnit, I'm so sick of Persians and Parskahyes. I swear, if I have to spend another night with my dad's fmaily and their friends.. I don't know if I can take it man, another "maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamet voooonsa?" and I'm gonna karate chop my cousins and xxxxx slap my hamasik horkur out the window.

*Lets out a deep breath* Badbakht...

Ahahaha

That was the second funny post you made out of your 447 attempts. :wave:

So you're half parskahye?

My cousin married a parskahye, so evertime her family comes over, and they're greeting us, and kissing everyone, I noticed they say," barreevv, hoknats chlnek, hamestsek" But why are they saying "hametsek" to us? They're the one who are the guests. They're "hamenaling" not us. :confused:

Does the word "hametsek" have a different meaning for you guys?

[HyeJinx1984]

Hamatsek basically means "welcome" or "come inside," same as it means to everyone. If they're saying hamastek it's cause they're idiots. What was my other funny post?

[IvyLipstick]

the only way to get rid of annoying parskahyes is , to move to australia and live an anonymous life. Even the kangaroos would be shocked at their quaint stubborn ways and lifestyle.

[IvyLipstick]

I heard his Armenian....

Don't you think thats disrespectful to have your last name cut short like that just cuz it is "easily" pronounced?

I mean no disrespect, I had to reduce my last name too cause it was one of those ones that was too long and complicated to say, basically 1 out of 50 people could read it under a second without chokin' at some point...but I did leave the "ian" in the simplified version. Maybe its me, but I find it disrespectful when people cut their names short like that, specially if their famous like Andre Agasi(and Gwen Stefani?).


That I must say is one of the many things that is reallllly funny about modern day Armenians.

They think that by customizing their names into "English sounding" names by cutting off the suffix of their indigenous names, they will "fit in" to our Anglo culture. It is pathetic yet funny.

One example was my mom's doctor, Doctor Armen Vartany. :laugh: He thinks we will not notice that he is Armenian without him putting the "ian" or "yan" there. How ridiculous is that?

[Emil]

:laugh:

Yea you are correct, he is a Barsgahye that is what we said.

So all Persian-Armenians are idiots?

[hyebruin]

Even the kangaroos would be shocked at their quaint stubborn ways and lifestyle.

did you date barsgahyes? seems like you know them pretty well :laugh: :laugh:

[Siggie]

One example was my mom's doctor, Doctor Armen Vartany. :laugh: He thinks we will not notice that he is Armenian without him putting the "ian" or "yan" there. How ridiculous is that?

Your mom had plastic surgery?

[Siggie]

You've piqued my interested, how does it end?

And damnit, I'm so sick of Persians and Parskahyes. I swear, if I have to spend another night with my dad's fmaily and their friends.. I don't know if I can take it man, another "maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamet voooonsa?" and I'm gonna karate chop my cousins and xxxxx slap my hamasik horkur out the window.

*Lets out a deep breath* Badbakht...

Baskahyes dont say vonsa... sorry.

[IvyLipstick]

Your mom had plastic surgery?

He does all sorts of comestics but since that was first on your agenda, yes.

[IvyLipstick]

did you date barsgahyes? seems like you know them pretty well :laugh: :laugh:

Yes, next question.

[IvyLipstick]

So all Persian-Armenians are idiots?


What is a "persian armenian?" Listen, when you guys translate it from your own language to English it sounds awfully wrong.

"Persian Armenian" sounds like a mix between a Persian and an Armenian like as if one of the parents was a Persian or an Armenian.

[IvyLipstick]

Barsgahyes do say "vonsa" it just depends. Half the time I cannot really decipher: are they moaning or are they talking or are they crying or are they asking a question?

[sleuth]

the only way to get rid of annoying parskahyes is , to move to australia and live an anonymous life.

Bah!!! Ta mate .We are just fine without parskahyes.Keep them cozy and warm in Sweden .

I wonder why ppl eat Hindu_hav but not Parska_hav?:P


Ps: Melbourne is parskaye free (at least my vicinity). I met only one parskaye so far.He was vigorously shaking my hand ... apri papet,shat lav gortsuma :laugh:
I think they are hilarious, harmless but pretty insipid. :)

[HyeJinx1984]

Persian Armenian simply means that they are Armenians that live in or came from Iran (Like my dad). it has to do with nationality, not a thing to do with blood or ethnicity.

And speaking of teh havs, the best way to describe their behavior is that they have very hyper voices with very lazy bodies, which means they sound really excited when in reality they are not. Eh, but you gotta love 'em...

[hyebruin]

What is a "persian armenian?" Listen, when you guys translate it from your own language to English it sounds awfully wrong.

"Persian Armenian" sounds like a mix between a Persian and an Armenian like as if one of the parents was a Persian or an Armenian.

she has a point, if you use that term outside l.a. or california people will assume you're half one and half the other...it only makes sense in armenian...lmao as far as the cosmetic surgeon, haha...who knows why he did that? maybe he experienced discrimination, but living in l.a. he should know better than that (if he's trying to hide his ethnicity) he might fool someone from kansas or alabama who've never heard of armenians, but it's kind of silly imo to do that here...not all last names sound better if they're shortened..some do but not all, not his :rolleyes:

[IvyLipstick]

Persian Armenian simply means that they are Armenians that live in or came from Iran (Like my dad). it has to do with nationality, not a thing to do with blood or ethnicity.

And speaking of teh havs, the best way to describe their behavior is that they have very hyper voices with very lazy bodies, which means they sound really excited when in reality they are not. Eh, but you gotta love 'em...

I know what it means you brute! I am just saying your terminology gives us other people the wrong impression because in English it is butt backwards just like the islamic and persian culture that exists! STop saying "Lebanese Armenian" or "Persian Armenian" that term really is doltish since it stemmed from a doltish person from the start. There is no "persian armenian" you are an Armenian from Iran and location does not change whom you are born as.

I will love them the day they all start showing respect not resorting to childish measures that obstruct all Armenians as a whole just to get their selfish desire. It is time to grow up and they need to see that but don't get me wrong some Armenians from Iran are really aware of this and do not do this sort of nonsense.

[IvyLipstick]

she has a point, if you use that term outside l.a. or california people will assume you're half one and half the other...it only makes sense in armenian...lmao as far as the cosmetic surgeon, haha...who knows why he did that? maybe he experienced discrimination, but living in l.a. he should know better than that (if he's trying to hide his ethnicity) he might fool someone from kansas or alabama who've never heard of armenians, but it's kind of silly imo to do that here...not all last names sound better if they're shortened..some do but not all, not his :rolleyes:

Oh yes thank you for acknowledging that finally. AS for that surgeon, uhhh him changing a few letters on his name is still no excuse for his stupidity by trying to alter his whole culture and who he really is to fit into a few rednecks' minds. Everyone experienced discrimination. It really means and does no good for him to do that and you think just because he is a coward with no loyalty now, that people will not see him as "armenian" and discriminate again?HAH think again. If a dullard is going to discriminate just based upon his envy of his ethnicity then he will do this regardless of what his name is. The feeble minded attempt to assimulate in that cowardly fashion portray these islamic infidels with no dignity and that really does and never did help either. Which comes to my final point:

If they were calling him before "Damn that Armen Vartanian Armo loser" then

they are still referring to him as that negative insult of now
"damn that Armen Vartany Armo loser"

See observe the lack of difference. Therefore, lying to yourself STILL will not save you from the IGNORANCE that is out there today meaning he is a moron for doing such things.

[hyebruin]

haha precisely why Cher goes without a last name..what is she gonna reduce it to? Cher Sarkis? instead of Sarkissian? besides i've heard/read that she had a 'blond complex' as a child and thought she was an ugly duckling since her mom is blond and her sister is also blond...i got pissed off when i read that! we have a lot of beautiful armenian brunettes; but she thought the definion of "beauty" was being blond and having "pinky white" skin instead of her olive complexion; she is a beautiful woman, i don't understand what her problem was/is? i've always been very proud and very happy with the armenian dark eye fair skin dark hair look :)

[HyeJinx1984]

Ugh, if I ever have to hear about Cher again, i swear... if there is one confused little victim of an elektra complex who likes to whine to people about it through her music that I'm sick of, it's her.

And you could have just told me who Andre Agassi is instead of insulting me... again.

[IvyLipstick]

haha precisely why Cher goes without a last name..what is she gonna reduce it to? Cher Sarkis? instead of Sarkissian? besides i've heard/read that she had a 'blond complex' as a child and thought she was an ugly duckling since her mom is blond and her sister is also blond...i got pissed off when i read that! we have a lot of beautiful armenian brunettes; but she thought the definion of "beauty" was being blond and having "pinky white" skin instead of her olive complexion; she is a beautiful woman, i don't understand what her problem was/is? i've always been very proud and very happy with the armenian dark eye fair skin dark hair look :)

There is no "dark eye look" to Armenians. That occurred mainly because there was contact with the darkies from the middle east and turks. Armenians are like Greeks and that is the end of that, wake up already.

She stooped to that sort of dignity less behavior because she was thinking the same way her shallow minded surroundings were which is what many Armenians do. They think all about the wrong ways to "fit in" when little do they realize that they are not going to fit in by being another clone of some Anglo girl.

By the way, Armenians are not originally "olive skinned" we have established that before. Cher is another disgrace to the culture I say because her face now is more cutless than a Thanksgiving Day turkey. You Armenians come from a colder climate which barely sees a lot of sun, therefore you are not logically speaking, "dark." Get over that bs notion already you are not going to woo anyone with it, really.

[IvyLipstick]

Hyebruin and Hyejinx, that which you both must be because you still have not realized that I am saying IT WOULDNT MATTER IF YOU CHANGE OR BUTCHER YOUR NAMES TO ANGLO NAMES BY CUTTING OFF THE SUFFIX because your Armenian NESS is already present within the first syllable of the damn name. LOL I dont need your damn "yan ian" crap to see if you are Armenian. Cher is a good example of what high level of stupidity unfortunately exists among Americanized Armenians. You deem yourself to be a bigger idiot than you already are if you think that you will trick others into having us think "You are not armenian" by resorting to such loser-tag along ways.


For your information guys: Cher is HALF Armenian HALF Native American mutt Anglo mixed.

[IvyLipstick]

Ugh, if I ever have to hear about Cher again, i swear... if there is one confused little victim of an elektra complex who likes to whine to people about it through her music that I'm sick of, it's her.

And you could have just told me who Andre Agassi is instead of insulting me... again.


Sorry that begged to be ridiculed. HE is a famous tennis player that earned a high position once.

[IvyLipstick]

Cher was never really "blonde" unless you mean she was stupid, than I might agree.

[hyebruin]

i'm not talking about what armenians originally looked like..i'm talking about what the majority of armenians look like nowadays..which IS dark hair dark eyes and olive complexion...that's all i was saying

[IvyLipstick]

i'm not talking about what armenians originally looked like..i'm talking about what the majority of armenians look like nowadays..which IS dark hair dark eyes and olive complexion...that's all i was saying

Yes even now a days their skin is really the only thing that is light. You must have been around the darkies too long for you to see it but that still means nothing the vast majority of Armenians are white skinned.

[IvyLipstick]

Well I guess you are confusing your mental picture with your father or something because that is obviously not the case.

[MadHandle]

Yes even now a days their skin is really the only thing that is light. You must have been around the darkies too long for you to see it but that still means nothing the vast majority of Armenians are white skinned.

Depends...most are in between brown and white. Like my mom is white skinned while my dad is almost brown. Like I said it depends, people up in the mountains are usually the light skinned Armenians and the rest are what you call "olive" skinned. Basically its a mix.

[IvyLipstick]

Depends...most are in between brown and white. Like my mom is white skinned while my dad is almost brown. Like I said it depends, people up in the mountains are usually the light skinned Armenians and the rest are what you call "olive" skinned. Basically its a mix.
Look it is a mix now, but most of my friends from the mountains or not are very light skinned. Usually it is the Armenians from the middle east that look dark. Not from Armenia unless they have some Turkic or Persian genes but whatever the case is ARmenians (the vast majority) are still light skinned.

[HyeJinx1984]

NOT ANYMORE!! HAHA!! PRAISE THE SUN!! *Comes back from the pool looking all crispy*