Armenians gaining a bad rep?

[jilbagh]

I made a similar thread earlier but I can't remember where it was but oh well...

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2459582,00.html

[HyeJinx1984]

two questions,

1) Why do they keep reffering to them as "Russian-Armenian"? If they're from Russia, I'd get it.. but I have a feeling this is just more than annoying habit of people grouping us in with Russians (one of the reasons I'm growing more and more annoyed with Russians in general)

and 2) Why would any Armenian hire two lobis to go kill another Armenian? That's sad.

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Oh, and Armenians should not be involved in organized crime, that really sucks.

[thedebutante]

I say let the truth be told.

By Russian-Armenians, the reporter means the eastern armos. (This just shows how little they know about our culture. Excuse them, they're ignorant.)

[hyebruin]

the answer to your first question is obvious! just look at the pattern of crime and those involved!

[TigranJamharian]

nothing wrong with a little organized crime as long as it doesnt get out of hand.

[MadHandle]

two questions,

1) Why do they keep reffering to them as "Russian-Armenian"? If they're from Russia, I'd get it.. but I have a feeling this is just more than annoying habit of people grouping us in with Russians (one of the reasons I'm growing more and more annoyed with Russians in general)

and 2) Why would any Armenian hire two lobis to go kill another Armenian? That's sad.

..

Oh, and Armenians should not be involved in organized crime, that really sucks.

yes, yes...and another yes for your first reason. I'm tired of people thinkin Armenians are Russian or in some way related. Its annyoning me now.


There are way more latin, black and even white gangs then Armenian in LA, the bay area, whole Cali. This won't damage anyones reputation.

[Anonymouse]

The groups are fueled by lucrative white collar frauds -- including credit card, immigration, auto insurance, cigarette tax evasion, identity theft, welfare and health care.

70 plus years of Socialist bliss in the Soviet Union, everyone learned how to scam the system. That is part of the reason why you have many Armenians, for the most part Hayastansi or Russian Armenians, trying to screw the system. They learned this behavior living under one of the biggest welfare States known to man. America is no Soviet Union, but it is socialistic and welfarism runs rampant and Armenians find the similarities in the systems, hence why they will exploit. This is part of the problem with the welfare State.

And yes, these morons are giving us a bad name.

[Anonymouse]

nothing wrong with a little organized crime as long as it doesnt get out of hand.

I would expect you to be someone to say that. After all, you are an "uglavik" and of the rabies persuasion. Honesty and integrity are anathema to you and your rabies uglavik buddies.

[thedebutante]

Have you guys noticed that if a white dude makes the paper for doing something stupid, none of the white dudes ask if that's giving them a bad rep? Because it's not.

Those stupid armos that do xxxx don't have any bearing on our culture. They're just giving themselves a bad rep. So screw em. And if people judge the armos based on overly exaggerated crap they read in the paper, then screw them as well.

[GSTracer05]

Define "uglavik" please.

[GSTracer05]

Have you guys noticed that if a white dude makes the paper for doing something stupid, none of the white dudes ask if that's giving them a bad rep? Because it's not.

Those stupid armos that do xxxx don't have any bearing on our culture. They're just giving themselves a bad rep. So screw em. And if people judge the armos based on overly exaggerated crap they read in the paper, then screw them as well.

Because as Armenians, we tend to be more critical of the bad things done by fellow Armenians.

[thedebutante]

Because as Armenians, we tend to be more critical of the bad things done by fellow Armenians.

Indeed. But we must remember that other people don't give a xxxx about it. Thus, it has no bearing on our reputation as seen by others.

[Anonymouse]

Define "uglavik" please.

Uglavik is a Russian slang which means someone who stands in the corner of streets, which describes Hayastansi rabies/thuggish males, much like our resident Tigran here, who believes this elevates him to some illusory manhood, because of his stance as he leans on some railing under a building and puffs on Marlboros and talks about how bad ass he is and how many bytches he's done or what have you. The conversations will vary, and it does have an aura of intellectual freedom, so it can't be all that bad can it?

[hyebruin]

Uglavik is a Russian slang which means someone who stands in the corner of streets, which describes Hayastansi rabies/thuggish males, much like our resident Tigran here, who believes this elevates him to some illusory manhood, because of his stance as he leans on some railing under a building and puffs on Marlboros and talks about how bad ass he is and how many bytches he's done or what have you. The conversations will vary, and it does have an aura of intellectual freedom, so it can't be all that bad can it?


LMAO :laugh: :laugh: awwww the visual!!!! :p

[HyeJinx1984]

Not to sound discriminitory, I'm really not, but out of curiosity I wonder if there are any (significant) organized crime among Barsgahyes, Bairuitsis or Bolsahyes.

[hyebruin]

anything is possible! but if you notice theirs tends to be more white collar crime! WHICH IS STILL CRIME AND DAMAGING TO OUR REPUTATION!!! when i'm away from l.a. i am very proud of my roots and being armenian, but sadly in l.a. i know how they perceive us! the tiny minority of us! never mind the 1000's of bright students and professionals and artists and musicians that we have!! noooooo!!! cuz human nature usually focuses on the negative and applies it to the entire group! what a shame it is indeed!

[GSTracer05]

anything is possible! but if you notice theirs tends to be more white collar crime! WHICH IS STILL CRIME AND DAMAGING TO OUR REPUTATION!!! when i'm away from l.a. i am very proud of my roots and being armenian, but sadly in l.a. i know how they perceive us! the tiny minority of us! never mind the 1000's of bright students and professionals and artists and musicians that we have!! noooooo!!! cuz human nature usually focuses on the negative and applies it to the entire group! what a shame it is indeed!

<reaches for a tissue> Say it isn't so!

[HyeJinx1984]

anything is possible! but if you notice theirs tends to be more white collar crime! WHICH IS STILL CRIME AND DAMAGING TO OUR REPUTATION!!! when i'm away from l.a. i am very proud of my roots and being armenian, but sadly in l.a. i know how they perceive us! the tiny minority of us! never mind the 1000's of bright students and professionals and artists and musicians that we have!! noooooo!!! cuz human nature usually focuses on the negative and applies it to the entire group! what a shame it is indeed!

Don't get your bow in a bind, relax.

[hyebruin]

Don't get your bow in a bind, relax.

*flicks jinx* :rolleyes: catch me if you can! :laugh:

[HyeJinx1984]

Only if I can keep you once I catch you ;)

[Genuine_Stud]

"A new gang problem"

"Russian Armenian organized crime - like the 1930s New York mob"

Gee there's something new to put on the front page of a newspaper. :rolleyes:

I love it how they state Russian Armenian though.... as if other types of Armenians aren't involved in organized crime as well. :rolleyes:

Tell me something I don't know. Phuckin' media. :evil:

Like freakin Bloods and Crips or other rival inner city gangs don't kill each other everyday. :rolleyes:

Thank you Jason Kanel (Daily News Staff Writer) for stating the obvious and yet again making Armenians look as if they're the only ones in LA that have organized crimes. :wave:

Gee.... i feel so special now. :rolleyes:

Phuckin' hypocrites. :mad:

[xBaron Dants]

The hell with all these people.

Yet if everyone else has it, I don't see why we would be an exception to the rule..

[MadHandle]

Atleast their puttin Armenia on the map...I'd say 1 out of 10 or hell even 20 average eductated people don't even know there is a country called Armenia.

[HyePrincess]

Atleast their puttin Armenia on the map...I'd say 1 out of 10 or hell even 20 average eductated people don't even know there is a country called Armenia.


so true


and i am also tired of stupit iddot's thinking that russians and armenians are the ame thing like the dumbasses in my school :evil: :evil:

[TigranJamharian]

so true


and i am also tired of stupit iddot's thinking that russians and armenians are the ame thing like the dumbasses in my school :evil: :evil:

When there are a lot more russians than you and you hang out with them all the time it gets pretty damn annoying.

[CatWoman]

I'm not surprised at all, and I do think we're gaining a bad reputation...VERY SAD but true...Don't get me wrong, I love my people, but sometimes I put myself in other non-armenian's shoes and I'm like hummm, guess I wouldn't like Armenians either if I were them. I mean people around me (friends, family) are awsome, but sometimes you come across some not so good Armenians and you think to yourself "am I really one of them"?? I used to work at this retail store a while back and Armenians would commit fraud all the time, and trust me it was BADDD and noticeable. All those rabis guys, the way they dress and act, makes me wanna puke... Oh well, but I still love my people (the good ones that is) haha :rolleyes:

[XxgoeyxX]

I'm not surprised at all, and I do think we're gaining a bad reputation...VERY SAD but true...Don't get me wrong, I love my people, but sometimes I put myself in other non-armenian's shoes and I'm like hummm, guess I wouldn't like Armenians either if I were them. I mean people around me (friends, family) are awsome, but sometimes you come across some not so good Armenians and you think to yourself "am I really one of them"?? I used to work at this retail store a while back and Armenians would commit fraud all the time, and trust me it was BADDD and noticeable. All those rabis guys, the way they dress and act, makes me wanna puke... Oh well, but I still love my people (the good ones that is) haha :rolleyes:


No your not one of them. :) And I'm not suprised as well. But just like anyone else Armenians are human beings and we commit the same crimes and the same sins as other people.

[patlajan]

Uglavik is a Russian slang which means someone who stands in the corner of streets, which describes Hayastansi rabies/thuggish males, much like our resident Tigran here, who believes this elevates him to some illusory manhood, because of his stance as he leans on some railing under a building and puffs on Marlboros and talks about how bad ass he is and how many bytches he's done or what have you. The conversations will vary, and it does have an aura of intellectual freedom, so it can't be all that bad can it?

That was beautiful.

[Disciplinary]

The hell with all these people.

Yet if everyone else has it, I don't see why we would be an exception to the rule..


First of all I do not know if these people read or they just tag along to a similar corrupt source that they think is "juice" for their interests, but by RATIO AND NUMBERS ARmenians have the lowest crime rate. We are humans of course we have our good and bad but I think what the overall thesis of the Armenian community is because we are so little in population, even ONE criminal puts us down. But overally, Blacks, Latinos, Anglos, Asians etc. Their crime rate is very high look at the prisons. All of the prisons in America are basically Black and Hispanic and those people laugh at naive dolts like some people here that defame their own kind.

[Ducati]

Not to sound discriminitory, I'm really not, but out of curiosity I wonder if there are any (significant) organized crime among Barsgahyes...
We carry a lot of weight in the transfering of dolma leaves..

[fIReBuRntInHeLL]

I will add that people get jealous that Armenians are capable of doing the most extreme and the "natives" cannot, im not excusing these impotent hayvans who screw our names, but lets face it. Armenians come here, in short period of time they achieve so many things with good or bad way, and the ones who were here their all lives they cannot have anything that we can have, of course they r going to denounce us,envy us and try to put us down with stupid mafian incidents. It's natural.

Every true armenian can teach the rest of the nationalities that we are not only "ktsogh" but we have 98% better people to make things perfect. The rabiz are part of very small percentage, an optimist armenian can see clearly that they cannot represent us, we have lots of characters who are people that make us proud.

[Armofoo]

I think that Armenians shouldnt be made fun of :(

[!EEK]

Could someone tell me what are "rabiz"? Oh and "Bolsa hye"..

[fIReBuRntInHeLL]

Could someone tell me what are "rabiz"? Oh and "Bolsa hye"..

Rabiz, are a number of armenians who are low-class, materialistic, griddy, bad-tasted, all black-ed, talking sh!t, doing absolutely nothing, thinking they r the "men", listening to Tatul and many other untalented rabiz singers, uneducated morons who have the idea that they r the best things ever happened to armenians, but they dont realize that they r disgrace. They drive salvage BMW, Benz only. So u made a picture I guess.

For further help, forumers u r free to add ur own definitions !

[HyeJinx1984]

That pretty much fits the Rabiz description.

As for Bolsahye, I believe it means Armenians from Istambul, but I could be wrong.

[!EEK]

OH ok thanks then! And by the way, whats rabz music? Do you have singers in mind?

[xBaron Dants]

Tigran Jamkochian, Tatoul Avoyan...

[HyeJinx1984]

Probably due to my lack of listening to much Armenian music, I have a hard time seperating Rabiz from non-Rabiz music. Of course, this is becoming a whole new thread onto itself...

[omniscient]

The man that got murdered is my good friends uncle. Ever since the shooting my friend can't go home alone fearing something will happen when walking to the house at nights. I keep trying to convince this person that they won't do anything to you but it hasn't helped.

[omniscient]

Not to sound discriminitory, I'm really not, but out of curiosity I wonder if there are any (significant) organized crime among Barsgahyes, Bairuitsis or Bolsahyes.

There is .... among Barsgahyes.

[HyeJinx1984]

There is .... among Barsgahyes.

Really? Surprised I haven't heard about it since I know most of thew Barsgahyes, at least the ones in Glendale.

[omniscient]

Ya I know just about every Barsgahye in Glendale too but I really doubt you know any of these people I'm thinking about. It's more of a thing that isn't talked about. But definitely yes, there is a lot of organized crime amongst Barsgahyes too.