Time for a king for Georgia?

[Haykakan]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Like i said before, smart leaders who have all the power will do more good then a democracy could ever dream of doing ie..Peter the Great, Catharine the Great, Tigran the Great.... A bad leader like Shakasville however is the achillis heal of this system because as much good the smart leader can do a bad leader can do just as much harm.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Tuesday, October 20, 2009
CIVIL SOCIETY

TIME FOR A KING FOR GEORGIA?
Giorgi Lomsadze 10/12/07

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Amid ongoing controversy about the Georgian government democratization methods, the leader of the Georgian Orthodox Church has proposed the idea of establishing a constitutional monarchy as a guarantee of stability.

In a televised October 7 sermon, Patriarch Ilia II argued that a monarch would best protect the interests of citizens of Georgia. Citing Spain as an example, the patriarch said that the constitutional monarchies of the West act as safeguards of stability and national unity. "The king will reign, not rule," he said.

The patriarch’s proposal was quickly embraced by many of Georgia’s main opposition parties, as well as by media magnate Badri Patarkatsishvili, who has announced potential political plans of his own. The proposal neatly dovetailed with the opposition’s new slogan "Georgia without a President," a takeoff on President Mikheil Saakashvili’s Rose Revolution motto "Georgia without Shevardnadze." The slogan is intended as a call for a parliamentary system of government.

"Speaking for most opposition parties, I believe … a constitutional monarchy is the perfect form of government," Zviad Dzidziguri, one of the leaders of the Conservative Party, told reporters the day of Ilia II’s statement.

Yet another bot, spamming their links. I see that the two I pointed out yesterday have been removed - but the problem still continues.

[Muhaha]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Dictatorships are an unsustainable way of Governance, you can't gaurantee yourself a steady stream of good leaders, you can get one great leader, like Putin or Medvedev, but then the country turns into another pile of useless weak mass once they're gone. If you want a quick burst of energy and vitality to the country, centralized power does that, but like Heroine or Cocaine, once the very good high is gone, the low is unbearable.


Where is Russia going to be when Putin or Medvedev are gone? They've set up a system in which they control everything important and nothing else is done by anyone else. When they die, no one will know what to do because the people that have been doing it are now gone and they didn't give anybody else a chance to practice.

Republics or Democracy's produce horrible and treacherous leaders every now and then, like Bush or Obama, but it doesn't matter because the nation can easily weather the storm since not everything is in the hands of one man or woman.

[Haykakan]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Dictatorships are an unsustainable way of Governance, you can't gaurantee yourself a steady stream of good leaders, you can get one great leader, like Putin or Medvedev, but then the country turns into another pile of useless weak mass once they're gone. If you want a quick burst of energy and vitality to the country, centralized power does that, but like Heroine or Cocaine, once the very good high is gone, the low is unbearable.


Where is Russia going to be when Putin or Medvedev are gone? They've set up a system in which they control everything important and nothing else is done by anyone else. When they die, no one will know what to do because the people that have been doing it are now gone and they didn't give anybody else a chance to practice.

Republics or Democracy's produce horrible and treacherous leaders every now and then, like Bush or Obama, but it doesn't matter because the nation can easily weather the storm since not everything is in the hands of one man or woman.

Actualy its all in the hands of ten families who own the fed. This is the reality of the democracy you are boasting about. You have no democracy in the usa, it hasnt existed for a long time now. When putin is gone he will have a competent leader ready to replace him while the usa and its "democracy will be broke and even further under the thumbs of those ten families, rothchilds, rockafellars...In practice democracy sux!

[Muhaha]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Actualy its all in the hands of ten families who own the fed. This is the reality of the democracy you are boasting about. You have no democracy in the usa, it hasnt existed for a long time now. When putin is gone he will have a competent leader ready to replace him while the usa and its "democracy will be broke and even further under the thumbs of those ten families, rothchilds, rockafellars...In practice democracy sux!

Did you read my post? I never boasted about the U.S.A. I compared two systems of Governance and brought up Obama and Bush as examples of bad leaders.

But since you brought up the United States, I'd like to say, this country has a lot more of a chance of surviving through the ages than any other country that exists today. It contans some of the most active and diverse political dialogue on the planet and that only contributes to the strength and vitality of America's future.

That's more than can be said about, say, Russia's future, which, according to you, depends entirely on Putin choosing a competent leader. Sounds like a great plan.

Like i said before, smart leaders who have all the power will do more good then a democracy could ever dream of doing ie..Peter the Great, Catharine the Great, Tigran the Great.... A bad leader like Shakasville however is the achillis heal of this system because as much good the smart leader can do a bad leader can do just as much harm.

I can't help but notice the fact that every single one of those countries that had such great leaders are now gone. Kingdom = Non Sustainable. An entire nation and people that depends on the current King choosing the right successor is headed for failure fast, especially in today's world, where a Kingdom would be surrounded by far more efficient nations.

[Haykakan]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Muhaha i urge you to think before you talk. Russia and Armenia are still here but i guess you didnt notice? Your suggestion that the USA has"contans some of the most active and diverse political dialogue on the planet and that only contributes to the strength and vitality of America's future." is utterly laughable. The USA has a two party system which in reality acts more like a one party system. The flawed system in Armenia has more diverse perspectives then the USA. The future looks pretty grim for the USA, every state is going bankrupt while the babyboomers are nearing retirement.

[Army]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Maybe I can be the next King after King Saakashvili

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Maybe I can be the next King after King Saakashvili

As long as you don't nibble on your tie when under pressure. Everyone in Georgia thinks they can become king (or president) - that is part of the trouble with Georgia!

I'm amused that a 2-year old dead thread has been resurected by an automatic link spammer.

[Haykakan]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

As long as you don't nibble on your tie when under pressure. Everyone in Georgia thinks they can become king (or president) - that is part of the trouble with Georgia!

I'm amused that a 2-year old dead thread has been resurected by an automatic link spammer.

Even Georgia has standards you know. Not just anyone there can be king. They have to win in a computor stratagy game first to be included in this elite group.

[Muhaha]

Re: Time for a king for Georgia?

Muhaha i urge you to think before you talk

How do you figure I'm not thinking now? Because I disagree with you? Anybody who isn't on the same page as you is obviously not thinking, right?

Russia and Armenia are still here but i guess you didnt notice?

The systems over which the leaders you named presided over are now gone. I wonder why? Is it possibly because they were proven inneficent by new ideas and ways of doing things and couldn't keep up with the rapid economic and military power that, say, Capitalism and Decentralized Government was creating for those who adopted it?

Your suggestion that the USA has"contans some of the most active and diverse political dialogue on the planet and that only contributes to the strength and vitality of America's future." is utterly laughable. The USA has a two party system which in reality acts more like a one party system.

The diverse and active dialogue is happening in a grassroots fashion, such as on forums like this one, that will slowly translate into representation at all levels and branches of Government.

Examples of grassroots activity:

https://www.ronpaulforums.com

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/

The flawed system in Armenia has more diverse perspectives then the USA.

I hope you're right. Diverse opinions can only lead to a more efficient Armenia.

The future looks pretty grim for the USA, every state is going bankrupt while the babyboomers are nearing retirement.

Can you prove these statements with facts and numbers?