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TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK! (Kurdish Source)

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  • TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK! (Kurdish Source)

    TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK!



    INFO-TÜRK, No 218, January-February 1995

    The daily Milliyet of February 3, 1995, reported that Armenian President Ter-Petrossian had a meeting with the neo-fascist Turkish leader Alparslan Türkes for the normalisation of the relations between Turkey and Armenia. Two days later, MHP chairman Türkes confirmed that he met with Ter-Petrossian in 1993 following a request by the Armenian lobby in France. Indicating that he had informed the prime minister and foreign minister of Turkey at the time that a meeting was planned between himself and Ter-Petrossian, Türkes said that the Turkish ambassador and counsellor were also at the meeting which was aimed at trying to see if the war between Armenia and Azerbaijan could be stopped. He added that another aim of the meeting was to explore the possibilities for developing friendly ties between Armenia and Turkey. The daily Cumhuriyet of February 5 reported that a second meeting between Türkes and Ter-Petrossian was held in 1994 in Germany. Since Türkes is known as one of the most ardent enemies of Armenians who is still using the word "Armenian" as an insult against left-wing or Kurdish activists, this meeting caused a big confusion as well in Armenia as in Armenian Diaspora.

    Besides, Türkes had played an important role in the rising ultra-nationalist and anti-Armenian currents in Azerbaijan after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Türkes' many notorious "Grey Wolves" had been placed by the former President Elcibey to key posts in Azerbaijan administrative and military establishment. According to the press reports, as the Armenian Diaspora is preparing spectacular commemorations on the occasion of the 80th anniversary of the genocide of which were victims more than 1.5 millions Armenians during the First World War, Ter-Petrossian seems ready to set aside the genocide for normalising relations with Turkey. Although similar commemoration demonstrations are being prepared in Yerevan, Ter-Petrossian's private adviser Jirair Libaridian reportedly said that he hoped the "historical reality" of genocide would not prevent the improvement of bilateral ties.

    In the meantime, the Armenian newspaper Gamk of February 27 reported that Armenian Education Minister Achot Bleyan ordered announced the interdiction of the education on Armenian genocide in the nursery, primary and secondary schools of Armenia. This gesture and the closure of the nationalist Dashnak Party in Armenia is considered by Ankara as another sign of Ter-Petrossian's will to normalise relations with Turkey. Recently, Libaridian had a series of talks with Turkish officials in Ankara on February 24-25. The Turkish side told Libaridian that to defuse tension in Yerevan's ties with Ankara, Armenians should pull out from the occupied Azeri lands — excluding the disputed enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh — and drop their rejection of Turkish participation in a planned peace-keeping force for Karabakh. During the talks, two sides also discussed "potential economic cooperation, including border trade and the passage of Azeri oil pipeline to Turkey through Armenian territory" in the event of normalized bilateral ties."

    Source: http://www.info-turk.be/218.E.htm
    Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

    Նժդեհ


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  • #2
    Re: TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK! (Kurdish Source)

    Please get the above posted article concerning Levon Petrosian out to as many people as you can. All you have to do is email individuals the link to the post number of the article in question. Double click on the post number and open up the post. Copy the post's address and paste it with the title of the article in your email.

    Example:
    Armenia Assaulted by Orange Agents:
    http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpo...&postcount=484

    There is a relatively well organized campaign out of southern California and several English language websites that have been working towards discrediting the Armenian Government, inciting unrest in the Armenian Republic and encouraging anti-Artsakh/Nagorno Karabagh rhetoric. The harsh realities of the treasonous criminal Levon Petrosian needs to be disseminated within the Armenian public. I ask you to mail the above links to as many individuals, news papers, websites, organizations and churches as you can.

    These are some the websites that have been partaking in this bloody coup attempt:

    Hetq: http://www.hetq.am/arm/

    Armenianow: http://www.armenianow.com/?lng=eng

    A1 Plus: http://www.a1plus.am/amu/

    Send these sites your messages of anger and disgust. Let's show these mother xxxxers that not all of us are deaf, dumb and blind to what they are attempting to do.

    If you are upset with what's going on, get your asses active!!!
    Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

    Նժդեհ


    Please visit me at my Heralding the Rise of Russia blog: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

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    • #3
      Re: TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK! (Kurdish Source)

      Azeris have attempted to take advantage of the political turmoil in Yerevan by mounting an attack against Armenian lines in Artsakh. I was made aware of this incident the very next day after it had occurred by a friend who has a nephew serving on the front lines in Artsakh. The following is an excerpt of the email he sent me two days ago:

      Im qroj txan Artsach-um e tsaraium, asum e, ais amenits ogtvel en porzel turqer@, es 2 or@ mi 30 metr dirqer@ araj en berel, 3 hogu el spanel en zorqerits. Ais ameni mexq@ ankaskats Robertinn e, vor es 10 tari HHsh-i verj@ chtvets, ev drants amboxj banak@, vor mijin oxaki pashtonnerum ein, aintex el mnatsel ein, esor irents tsuits tvetsin. Levon-in pahox Grzo anunov multimilloner@, vor asel er 1 billion talis em es sharzman@, ir poxer@ vastakel er Levoni zamanak Artsach-i krvi hamar havaqvats gumarner@ juratsnelov, u minchev hima lav aprum er, voch te bantum. Baits chvaxes, amen inch lav klini. Sra lav koxm@ na e, vor uzen te chuzen, HHShi kadrerits kazatven, ham el irents hamar das klini, mi qich zoxovrdi masin el mtatsen.
      Translation:

      My sister's son, currently serving in Artsakh, said that Turks (Azeris) have attempt to gain from all this. During the last two days they have brought their positions 30 meters forward and have killed three of our soldiers. Without doubt this is Kocharyan's fault because he did not eliminate the HHSH party during the last ten years... Levon's keeper, Grzo, the multimillionaire who had said I will give one billion dollars to this movement, made his money during Levon's time in office by steeling money that was being collected for the Artsakh war effort... But do not be afraid, everything is going to be well...


      *****************************

      Azeri armed forces attempted to seize Armenian positions


      Azerbaijan made an attempt to make use of the domestic tension in Armenia to provoke a ceasefire violation in Mardakert direction, RA Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian told reporters in Yerevan. “The Azeri units tried to advance through the Armenian territory and seize a post but were rebuffed. Several Armenian servicemen were injured, 2 Azeri soldiers were killed. The skirmish is going on but not so violently. We have already sent a notice to OSCE CiO’s special representative Andrzej Kasprzyk and hope that the situation will settle down soon,” he said. “If someone in Baku hopes to gain psychological dividends, thinking that we are too concentrated on our internal affairs, he is deeply mistaken,” the Armenian Minister emphasized.

      Source: http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=25215

      *****************************

      Levon and company as well as their supporters can never be forgiven.

      The entire bloody fiasco in Armenia has been more-or-less a battle between Armenian whores in Armenia and Armenians from Artsakhs. If anyone does not believe me just read Levin Petrostein's speeches,or listen to his divisive rhetoric, they are all meant to divide the people into two warring segments - Armenians and Artsakhtsis. What's more, they are all mean to abandon every single national interests in the name of appeasement. This movement may be packaged as a so-called "democracy" movement but it's fully serving the interests of Washington and Ankara.

      To hell with Levon. I want to see him and his team DEAD.
      Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

      Նժդեհ


      Please visit me at my Heralding the Rise of Russia blog: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

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      • #4
        Re: TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK! (Kurdish Source)

        Comrades, this is a historic time. Please, do your part. The usurpers in Armenia are well organized and they are getting their spiritual and financial support from Washington and Ankara. Get active.

        I have been calling for a civil war in Armenia not because I 'wanted' it but because I knew they would initiate one sooner-or-later. The best defense is an offense. We needed to cure this cancer before it manifested itself. When our security forces kill few hundred of these low lives in the streets they will learn their lesson. All nations have had to do this at one point or another in their political evolution. Nothing bad will happen to the Armenian state if they ruthlessly crush this rebellion. If anything, Armenia will gain international respect. If anything, Azeris, Turks and Americans will realize that a revolution will 'not' work in Armenia.

        Levon and his team need to be executed, there is no other ways about it. The low lives in the street need to be beaten bloody.


        Western backed media outlets - Hetq, A1 Plus, Armeniannow, Radio Liberty, need to be exposed as tools of western intelligence services. Treasonous foreign filth like Onnik Krikorian and Richard Giragosian need to be finally exposed as tools for western intelligence services.

        Get active. Contact the Armenian Embassy in Washington and express your support for the government. Contract the Armenian Mission at the UN in New York and express your support for the government. Contact the Armenian Council in Los Angeles and express your support for the government.

        Demand the punishment of Levon Petrosian and his team. Demand the return of law and order to the Armenian state
        Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

        Նժդեհ


        Please visit me at my Heralding the Rise of Russia blog: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

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        • #5
          Re: TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK! (Kurdish Source)

          THE PRE-CONDITIONS ARE PRESENT IN ARMENIA, HOWEVER THERE IS NO REASON FOR "VELVET REVOLUTION"


          Pre-conditions are present in Armenia, however, there is no reason for "velvet revolution", said member of RA National Assembly, politologist Amayak Ovanessian in the interview with the correspondent of ARMINFO, commenting on the statement of editor-in-chief of Russian Service of BBC Konstantin Eggert referring to that Armenia will be the first state after the Ukraine where the "velvet revolution" will take place. A. Ovanessian noted that the hard social-economic conditions of the people, the falsification of results of presidential and parliamentary elections' in 2003, as well as the high level of corruption and shadow economy could be called as pre-conditions for implementation of "velvet revolution" in Armenia. The only fact that in Armenia the "velvet revolution" have not taken place yet is explained only with the weakness of Armenian opposition. However, the post-soviet states bear a great resemblance to each other and processes occurred in these countries, on the principle of communicating vessels, "flow" from one state into another, noted A. Ovanessian. "If the level of democracy and social welfare in the post-soviet states is high enough, George Soros with his money never can do a revolution there. It is not necessary to underestimate the factor of people ever",- Armenian deputy empathized.

          Source: http://felist.com/archive/media.armi.../10232035.html
          Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

          Նժդեհ


          Please visit me at my Heralding the Rise of Russia blog: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

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          • #6
            Re: TER-PETROSSIAN'S REAL POLITIK! (Kurdish Source)

            Organizers of unrest in Yerevan will be punished - presidential spokesman


            The people who ordered, orchestrated and took part in recent mass unrest in Yerevan will be punished, presidential press secretary Viktor Sogomonian said at a press conference on Tuesday. "Levon Ter-Petrosian and his team, and all those who provoked and organized mass unrest and called for overthrowing the incumbent authorities will be punished," Sogomonian said. "Especially those who provoked unrest," he added. The situation in the city is returning to normal, he said. Asked about the possibility of a dialogue with the radical opposition and a possible format of such dialogue, Sogomonian said he did not see a possibility for such dialogue now. "Before those events took place, there were chances for dialogue. The opposition said more than once that it ruled out the possibility of dialogue with the authorities. I do not see such an opportunity now. Can anything really be discussed after what happened?" Sogomonian said. The unsanctioned opposition rallies had lasted for ten days, he said. There were armed people among those who incited the unrest, while police were unarmed, Sogomonian said. "International institutions should know that there was no excessive use of force. The Armenian political leadership ordered that violence be avoided as much as possible and that the use of force be minimized," he said.

            Source: http://www.interfax.com/3/371334/news.aspx
            Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

            Նժդեհ


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