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Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh

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    Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh

    Azg, Yerevan,
    31 Oct 03

    The CIA has acknowledged in its "World Factbook" that Nagornyy
    Karabakh is historically a part of Armenia, according to an article
    in Armenian newspaper Azg. Harut Sasunyan, captioned as publisher
    of the California Courier, selected from the "World Factbook"
    entry on Armenia the phrases that Karabakh was "assigned to Soviet
    Azerbaijan in the 1920s by Moscow" and "Armenian forces held not only
    Nagornyy Karabakh but also a significant portion of Azerbaijan proper"
    as grounds for his assertion. He criticized other statements in the
    "World Factbook" entry, including one that Armenian demands concerning
    their former lands in Turkey have "subsided". The following is the text
    of the report in Azg on 31 October entitled "CIA confirms Armenian
    ownership of Karabakh and lands in Turkey"; subheadings have been
    inserted editorially:

    The Central Intelligence Agency publishes each year a report
    called "World Factbook" which contains comprehensive information
    on the geography, population, government, economy, communications,
    transportation and the military of more than 200 countries and
    territories. The Factbook can also be read on the CIA's web site: Even
    though no secrets are disclosed in this public document, it is still
    interesting to see how the CIA presents certain facts and issues
    regarding Armenia, Karabakh, Azerbaijan and Turkey.

    CIA confirms Armenian position on Karabakh

    In the chapter on Armenia, the Factbook provides the following
    "background" information: "Armenia prides itself on being the first
    nation to formally adopt Christianity (early 4th century). Despite
    periods of autonomy, over the centuries Armenia came under the
    sway of various empires including the Roman, Byzantine, Arab,
    Persian and Ottoman. It was incorporated into Russia in 1828 and
    the USSR in 1920. Armenian leaders remain preoccupied by the long
    conflict with Muslim Azerbaijan over Nagornyy Karabakh, a primarily
    Armenian-populated region, assigned to Soviet Azerbaijan in the 1920s
    by Moscow. Armenia and Azerbaijan began fighting over the area in 1988;
    the struggle escalated after both countries attained independence
    from the Soviet Union in 1991. By May 1994, when a cease-fire took
    hold, Armenian forces held not only Nagornyy Karabakh but also a
    significant portion of Azerbaijan proper. The economies of both sides
    have been hurt by their inability to make substantial progress toward
    a peaceful resolution."

    It is interesting to note that the CIA devotes more than two-thirds
    of the "background" information on Armenia to Karabakh, indicating
    the CIA's special attention to that region. By stating that Karabakh
    was "assigned to Soviet Azerbaijan in the 1920s by Moscow", the CIA
    is confirming the Armenian position that Karabakh was historically a
    part of Armenia. Finally, by referring to the territories surrounding
    Karabakh, but not to Karabakh itself, as "Azerbaijan proper", the CIA
    reinforces its acknowledgement that Karabakh is not part of Azerbaijan.

    Armenian demands over former lands in Turkey have not subsided

    Even more interesting is the following paragraph entitled "Disputes":
    "Armenia supports ethnic Armenian secessionists in Nagornyy Karabakh
    and militarily occupies 16 per cent of Azerbaijan - the Organization
    for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) continues to mediate in
    the dispute; the border with Turkey remains closed over the Nagornyy
    Karabakh dispute; traditional demands regarding former Armenian lands
    in Turkey have subsided; ethnic Armenian groups in Javakheti region
    of Georgia seek greater autonomy, closer ties with Armenia."

    The above paragraph contains three false assertions:

    1. Armenia does not occupy 16 per cent of Azerbaijan. Karabakh
    Armenians (with support from Armenia) liberated themselves from the
    tyranny of Azerbaijan;

    2. the Armenians of Karabakh are not "secessionists". They seek
    self-determination - a right recognized by the United Nations;

    3. contrary to the CIA's assertions (which were also made in the
    earlier editions of the "World Factbook") Armenian demands for
    their historic lands from Turkey have not "subsided". The Treaty
    of Sevres recognized the territories occupied by Turkey as Armenian
    lands. The borders of a much larger Armenia were drawn by President
    Woodrow Wilson. It is comforting that the CIA acknowledges that
    these territories did belong to Armenia by referring to them as
    "former Armenian lands in Turkey".

    Time is on no-one's side on Karabakh conflict

    In another CIA document ("Resolving conflicts in the Caucasus
    and Moldova: perspectives on next steps), a distinguished panel of
    experts contradicted those who say that time is on Azerbaijan's side
    in the Karabakh conflict. The panel members made the following very
    interesting observations: "Some observers see substantial strengths
    in the Armenian position, since the Armenians occupy the territory
    and over time their possession may be consolidated in de facto
    terms. Although Azerbaijan has the economic advantage, economic
    indicators may not be a deciding factor for at least three reasons:
    1. Azerbaijan's relative economic strength is also its vulnerability,
    since the Armenians understand that another war will interfere with oil
    transport, undermine regional investment and compromise Azerbaijan's
    economic momentum; 2. Many Armenians have concluded on the basis of
    their troubled history that they cannot safely reside in territory
    controlled by Azerbaijan and they are consequently resolute; 3.
    Armenians are prepared to sustain high levels of suffering. The
    rhetoric of Azeri hardliners may therefore accomplish little beyond
    reducing Armenia's capacity for compromise. One of the difficulties
    in the conflict is that both parties regard time as being on their
    side. In each case, this is a fallacy. Yet it is difficult for either
    party to see around a long history of mutual grievance and mistrust."

    Armenians should make it clear to the whole world that their demands
    for their historical lands in Turkey, Karabakh or elsewhere, are as
    valid as ever and not "subsiding"!
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  • #2
    Re: Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh

    Another funny article lol


    • #3
      Re: Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh

      8 years later you
      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
      "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."


      • #4
        Re: Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh

        America knows the truth. so this is no suprise.....what maybe a suprise to some is that despite the geopolitical moves the US makes at the end of the day she does care to some degree to the plight of the Armenians, in its own way.

        Also the Wilsonian Armenia can be used by the US to threaten and pressure Turkey if it ever does someting stupid.
        B0zkurt Hunter


        • #5
          Re: Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh

          "Armenian paper says CIA supports Armenian position on Karabakh"

          I don't expect a 3rd rate propagandist like Harut Sasunian would understand, but stating that "Karabakh is historically a part of Armenia" is not "supporting the Armenian position" - it is simply stating the truth, and an obvious truth at that.

          Alas in Sasunian's eyes (or in the eyes of his Azeri equivalents), there is no such thing as truth, there is only spin and lies. People like him diminish the value of truth.
          Last edited by bell-the-cat; 11-04-2011, 02:11 PM.
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